I cant believe it's not plastic - Mmmm yummy.

[Scorponok]

What medication are you taking :s

1. Do you know what plastic is?
2. Tell me why a molecule would make that sort of change.

[blanka09]

*cougH* :biggrin:

Fats and oils are tri-esters of glycerol, propan-1,2,3-triol, with carboxylic acids. These are sometimes called fatty acids owing to their presence in fats. . The constituent compounds include: tetradecanoic acid CH3(CH2)12COOH; hexadecanoic acid, CH3(CH2)14COOH; octadeca-9,12-dienoic acid (linoleic acid), :biggrin:
CH3(CH2)4(CH=CHCH2)2(CH2)6COOH; octadeca-9-enoic acid (oleic acid), CH3(CH2)7CH=CH(CH2)7COOH; propan-1,2,3-triol (glycerol), HOCH2CH(OH)CH2OH.
So now that you understand the molecular structure of fats let's move to margarine..
Margarine is created by either..
oils and fats, up to 10% of which can be milk fat;
an aqueous phase, often skimmed milk;
salt and flavouring;
vitamins

[SSJKarma]

well... for all i know, you can't say its the same as plastic, cause in chemestry, one molecule is like very different then the others !

example:
H2O = water or HALLOWEEN 20 (lol)
but... H2 is far from being water

see, one molecule out and you get something totally different.
other example:
CO2 = what coming out of our cars
O2 = oxygen which is what we need to survive !

two very different things, but still only one molecule separates them.
so basically you can't say that MARGARINE is almost like the PLASTIC that hold the margarine itself !

oh BTW... CO2 is also what we breath out of our body !
yeah, we breath out the same thing as our cars !

O2 when you breath in, but when you breath out its now CO2 !

see, anyway... let's get back on topic, yeah butter is way better then margarine... but in our world, who can say which things are really real ? i mean, alost everything in life now are made by chemical reactions, so how can you know that what you eat is real and not just another CHEMESTRY test by some super markets ?

so i wouldn't wonder about those things... its not like its gonna change my way of life anyway !

[ssj2trunks52]

cars put out carbon monoxide and Co2 is carbon dioxide...I swear to god karma...

and really that not far from being water because manily all hydrogen is; is water...

im sure blanka knows ALOT more about it then any ofus-which is cool he can have it I got computers though blanka:\

so dont try to second guess him karma...

[blanka09]

lol.. :biggrin:
Thanks for the props ssj2trunks..
Well what can I tell ya...
As he rightly put it We breathe out CO2 .. Carbon (IV) Oxide or Carbon dioxide while the Oxide which comes out of our cars is Carbon Monoxide or CO or Carbon(II)oxide...
which of cause is more poisonous than CO2.. cause if taken in, it reacts with the haemoglobin in our red blood cells forming Carboxylhaemoglobin which is more dense and fails to transport the Oxygen round the body..
nuff about that! :biggrin:

Back to the topic! For a fact.. yes 1 molecule can make a lotta difference when it comes to the structure and properties of a similar molecule.. eg NO2 and CO2.. which are completely different (For a fact NO2 is brown and CO2 is colorless)
But in this case, we're talking of what is known as hydrogenation which in any case is the addition of Hydrogen to a molecule..
Due to the vast amount of Hydrogen present in one chain of Fat (margarine) an addition doesn't change it's chemical equation too much.. and I think that's were they're both alike..
Basically just a step ahead of the fats and oils, we see plastic.
click here you'll read about polymers and stuff like that.. They show you how unsaturated organic compounds loose their double bonds and form large molecules (also known as macromolecules) which are in turn saturated.. Seeing those large chains of organic compound, adding one molecule of Hydrogen doesn't make much difference... unlike when it's Oxygen and Water..
So I guess that explains it to a new level! :biggrin:

[Saijin_Ryu]

Arrr this is all too Confusing?!
I never can get my head around all that chemistry crap!



Edited By Saijin_Ryu on Oct. 24 2003 at 16:23

[Resident Evil]

i was thinking the same thing saijin

[ssj2trunks52]

thats because your dense...like the bond blanka was talking about j/k hahaha

anyways

for you who dont know No2 is nitrogen dioxide and as was said
Co2 is carbon dioxide-used in fire extinguishers very very cold stuff when in liquid form

blanka if im not mistaken it doesnt turn into gas until it hits O right? Or is it just the fact that its not compressed anymore?


blanka you must explain the reason why carbon monoxide is so dangerous I dont think they understood it...
and just in case he doesnt tell you it bassicly will drain you of all strength then you will pass out and die from lack of (oxygen=O)



Edited By ssj2trunks52 on Oct. 24 2003 at 12:27

[SSJKarma]

all hail SSJTRUNKS who seems to praise everyone thinking he and the person are the only rights on all subjects, i swear TRUNKS everytime i open my mouth here you seem to say i sucks and don't know what i'm talking about !

listen up guys, adding hydrogen or not, 2 molecule of hydrogen is far from just one !

and trunks, scuse me, HYDROGEN isn't water !
to be water you got to add that power 2 and the O to the H to have water, so nowe, what you're wrong about that one kid !

i may be have done only my SCIENSE class in SECONDARY FOUR, but i still know what molecules do what i do know that even adding hydrogen is far from not altering the things.

like i said, HYDROGEN or not, margarine is far from plastic !

[ssj2trunks52]

yes hail me karma you simplistic fool:\

I never said you sucked...I did on on the other hand imply it and how am I at all at fault for what you read and assume?

power 2 and o...

its 2 parts hydrogen and one part oxygen jesus dude
its more hydrogen then water hydrogen is know as the main part of water it has nothing to o with power...

now how old are you...really I mean it

"but i still know what molecules do what i do know that even adding hydrogen is far from not altering the things."

that makes no sence AT ALL

by the way karma the instant know it all :|
I never said it WAS water I said

and really that not far from being water because manily all hydrogen is; is water...

underline mainly...
dont try to flame again karma you will only hurt yourself...