Viper2040_'s rant post #1 - Abusing raging demon

viper2040 · 08-09-2005, 09:01 AM

Viper2040_has officially had it. Im a (suprisingly) well known, 4 year veteran of this game, and I have seen many bitchy posts in the past, but this is different. Im actually pissed.

As a 4 year veteran, Im supposed to be good at this game. I dont play it often, but old skool gamer skilz dont die easily. So when a noob invites me to a game, and i feel generous and join, I am naturally pissed off when i end up dead in 10 seconds because he abused some of the weaknesses of the game.

Ive noticed that a lot of people like to host games and set the level to 2 and pick a dark shoto, and start off with a quick raging demon. THAT IS NOT COOL. IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD. Im sure many will argue that Its my fault for not being able to stop it, but lets analyze the raging demon real quick.

The raging demon is a special move in many ways. It does massive damage, and unless stopped, is unblockable.
It also ALWAYS does damage, even with lag. If its executed, the damage WILL go through.

Still, this wouldnt be too bad, given how much super energy it takes, except for one thing: it is near impossible to stop with lag. In addition, its glitchy, and only supers, projectiles, or helpers can stop it.
This means that wolverine in a no-helper game is essentially screwed unless he wants to waste a super bar to prevent an instant death. Yeah, thats right, raging demon pretty much instant-kills wolvie, given his low defense against supers.
One of the most glaring examples of how incredibly cheap this move can be when abused, came in a 2v2 tag match. My partner decided to tag me as RD was being initiated. Naturally, I came in, got nailed, and was out of the match.
Or, the time that someone started a raging demon while i was in the middle of slashing him with wolverine. The attacks did NOTHING, and my helper was way too slow to help.

Now, I obviously have a deep respect for tmyapp and the work that he does, and I think that the raging demon was a great idea. However, some noobs have managed to once again take a great feature and abuse it so that I cannot even bear to use a dark character anymore. I am thoroughly disgusted with how low some people will stoop to get a few kills. Picking akuma and guile while setting the level to 2 only means that you will earn my scorn and disrespect. Im really sorry to burst the bubble of all the ~@!####s out there, but you all arent good. You just have no respect for the game or for sportsmanship.

Anyone who has a counter-argument to the above, feel free to post it, and I'll explain why you're wrong, and how you're a ####. Thank you.

Edited By viper2040 on 1123603678

Tidus2K2 · 08-09-2005, 10:48 AM

I personally think the raging demon is a useless move, you can stop it very easily, except when you have wolvie ofcourse. I other words I agree with you.(I hate shoto chars)

Dark_Paladin_X · 08-09-2005, 10:54 AM

People who "fight in that manner" are usually considered desperate(in my personal opinion). They eithe want rage, or braggin rights. "Oh! I beat ___. He sucked so much", and so on.

To those people, i say this. No matter how desperate you are, you will be stopped. Whether you're a rank hunter, Rage Factor Hunter, VIP killer, Norm killer or even "new fighter" killer (since i can't say ####). There will ALWAYS be someone to beat the crap out of you just to show you up.

Until then, enjoy you pathetic fun.

(~thug~) · 08-09-2005, 11:03 AM

Well thats your opionion is don't really matter much, Many people have different fighting style and its up to you to try to counter it.

Many characters have there weakness and Raging demon is a cheap move but it can be stoped. Mostly when people see "wolive" user they pick akuma or ken because they know "wolive" can't beat them easy with a good fight.

Sfo has changed over the years with the new updates so i guess you need to update your fighting style.

As they say "out with the old and in with the new"

viper2040 · 08-09-2005, 11:58 AM

I dont accept that. Raging demon doesnt drastically change the game, until you add in lag and its glitches. It is a glitchy move. Its SUPPOSED to be stoppable by normal attacks. But normal attacks dont work. Helpers? many are too slow to get out there. Essentially, it has very few weaknesses.

alamgir · 08-09-2005, 01:34 PM

To be honest I don't really have a problem with regular RD users usually, unless they magically teleport behind me and perform it. But I guess thats lag and I can't really blame my opponent for it.

By the way did you say wolverine has a weak super defence? How fair is that, I mean he has no projectiles, his only semi projectile move actually reduces your super bar and now he's dying because of one super. Why is wolverine like this anyway? I thought the supers hitting him hard was a bug.

J-Kw · 08-09-2005, 01:48 PM

I dont Become Cheap Unless someone Forces me too.... It gets me mad when I challenge someone.. they rank hunt me or they just dont want to lose rank... use V.I.P. Akuma to stop me.... I cant be stoped and thats why they do that......

Seriously now.... How can you cheat like that....Akuma ####s and Sent ####s... Its just getting me mad :sneaky2:

And with Akuma... THey do that all the time.... the Attack from the air... and the RD from the Bottom.... I seriously Think TmyApp should only give akuma a raging demon at level 2

[edit by viper2040_] STAY ON TOPIC, for GODS SAKE!!!! [/edit]

Edited By viper2040 on 1123627289

loadingbar · 08-09-2005, 02:39 PM

what really pisses me are the new people who use sentinal and repeatedly use his blast, and the thing with rageing demon, i have to agree, it is a completely cheap match combined with lag, i own SFA3 and rageing demon doesnt bother me all that in the game, much but i hate rank hunters and such, anyway, i think they should tweak rageing demon to do less damage
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[edit by viper2040_] STAY ON TOPIC, for GODS SAKE!!!! [/edit]

Edited By loadingbar on 1123629108

SSJKarma · 08-09-2005, 04:12 PM

raging demon is only a stupidity, what made it a good move in the normal games was that it was stopable and was hard to place... which in this game it is unstoapable and is just as muich easy to place !

its the same thing with VARIABLE attack...

right in the start helper, variable and super to death... instant kill just because the #### putted it at 3 supers and helpers on...
how fair is the game if you consider 2 on 1 or 2 on 2...
the only way to be alrght is to play 1 on 1 only...

i wouldn't go agianst viper on this mater there is too much strong moves in here !

Windarossa · 08-09-2005, 08:26 PM

I have only two words to sum up this topic and all the people who agree with it ----------------------------> Sore loser

Edited By Windarossa on 1123644426

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08-09-2005, 10:48 AM	#2
Tidus2K2 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 547 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I personally think the raging demon is a useless move, you can stop it very easily, except when you have wolvie ofcourse. I other words I agree with you.(I hate shoto chars) __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6406/sign1vt.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

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Dark_Paladin_X Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: T.O Posts: 2,118 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	People who "fight in that manner" are usually considered desperate(in my personal opinion). They eithe want rage, or braggin rights. "Oh! I beat ___. He sucked so much", and so on. To those people, i say this. No matter how desperate you are, you will be stopped. Whether you're a rank hunter, Rage Factor Hunter, VIP killer, Norm killer or even "new fighter" killer (since i can't say ####). There will ALWAYS be someone to beat the crap out of you just to show you up. Until then, enjoy you pathetic fun. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v640/Dark_Paladin_X/Screenshots%20Unique/66dcda27.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

08-09-2005, 11:03 AM	#4
(~thug~) Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: new york Posts: 1,500 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Well thats your opionion is don't really matter much, Many people have different fighting style and its up to you to try to counter it. Many characters have there weakness and Raging demon is a cheap move but it can be stoped. Mostly when people see "wolive" user they pick akuma or ken because they know "wolive" can't beat them easy with a good fight. Sfo has changed over the years with the new updates so i guess you need to update your fighting style. As they say "out with the old and in with the new" __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/sfoland/blaze.jpg[/img:sig_uid] [b:sig_uid]-ToUrNaMeNTtS WoN-[/b:sig_uid] 1.Ken masters finals (runner-up) 2.Ultimate chaos tournament (runner-up) 3.Restavega Famous Sponcership Tourment BlackMagic

08-09-2005, 11:58 AM	#5
viper2040 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 789 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I dont accept that. Raging demon doesnt drastically change the game, until you add in lag and its glitches. It is a glitchy move. Its SUPPOSED to be stoppable by normal attacks. But normal attacks dont work. Helpers? many are too slow to get out there. Essentially, it has very few weaknesses. __________________ questions about getting PC, server, or game console to work? gimme a holler.

08-09-2005, 09:01 AM	#1
viper2040 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 789 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Viper2040_has officially had it. Im a (suprisingly) well known, 4 year veteran of this game, and I have seen many bitchy posts in the past, but this is different. Im actually pissed. As a 4 year veteran, Im supposed to be good at this game. I dont play it often, but old skool gamer skilz dont die easily. So when a noob invites me to a game, and i feel generous and join, I am naturally pissed off when i end up dead in 10 seconds because he abused some of the weaknesses of the game. Ive noticed that a lot of people like to host games and set the level to 2 and pick a dark shoto, and start off with a quick raging demon. THAT IS NOT COOL. IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD. Im sure many will argue that Its my fault for not being able to stop it, but lets analyze the raging demon real quick. The raging demon is a special move in many ways. It does massive damage, and unless stopped, is unblockable. It also ALWAYS does damage, even with lag. If its executed, the damage WILL go through. Still, this wouldnt be too bad, given how much super energy it takes, except for one thing: it is near impossible to stop with lag. In addition, its glitchy, and only supers, projectiles, or helpers can stop it. This means that wolverine in a no-helper game is essentially screwed unless he wants to waste a super bar to prevent an instant death. Yeah, thats right, raging demon pretty much instant-kills wolvie, given his low defense against supers. One of the most glaring examples of how incredibly cheap this move can be when abused, came in a 2v2 tag match. My partner decided to tag me as RD was being initiated. Naturally, I came in, got nailed, and was out of the match. Or, the time that someone started a raging demon while i was in the middle of slashing him with wolverine. The attacks did NOTHING, and my helper was way too slow to help. Now, I obviously have a deep respect for tmyapp and the work that he does, and I think that the raging demon was a great idea. However, some noobs have managed to once again take a great feature and abuse it so that I cannot even bear to use a dark character anymore. I am thoroughly disgusted with how low some people will stoop to get a few kills. Picking akuma and guile while setting the level to 2 only means that you will earn my scorn and disrespect. Im really sorry to burst the bubble of all the ~@!####s out there, but you all arent good. You just have no respect for the game or for sportsmanship. Anyone who has a counter-argument to the above, feel free to post it, and I'll explain why you're wrong, and how you're a ####. Thank you. Edited By viper2040 on 1123603678 __________________ questions about getting PC, server, or game console to work? gimme a holler.

08-09-2005, 01:34 PM	#6
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	To be honest I don't really have a problem with regular RD users usually, unless they magically teleport behind me and perform it. But I guess thats lag and I can't really blame my opponent for it. By the way did you say wolverine has a weak super defence? How fair is that, I mean he has no projectiles, his only semi projectile move actually reduces your super bar and now he's dying because of one super. Why is wolverine like this anyway? I thought the supers hitting him hard was a bug. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

08-09-2005, 01:48 PM	#7
J-Kw Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 226 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I dont Become Cheap Unless someone Forces me too.... It gets me mad when I challenge someone.. they rank hunt me or they just dont want to lose rank... use V.I.P. Akuma to stop me.... I cant be stoped and thats why they do that...... Seriously now.... How can you cheat like that....Akuma ####s and Sent ####s... Its just getting me mad :sneaky2: And with Akuma... THey do that all the time.... the Attack from the air... and the RD from the Bottom.... I seriously Think TmyApp should only give akuma a raging demon at level 2 [edit by viper2040_] STAY ON TOPIC, for GODS SAKE!!!! [/edit] Edited By viper2040 on 1123627289 __________________ [b:sig_uid][color=red:sig_uid]Link Removed By NoSoul4SFO[/color:sig_uid][/b:sig_uid] [quote:sig_uid]Yea Mr. Marley..... Smoke It - [b:sig_uid]J-Kw

08-09-2005, 02:39 PM	#8
loadingbar Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United States Posts: 390 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	what really pisses me are the new people who use sentinal and repeatedly use his blast, and the thing with rageing demon, i have to agree, it is a completely cheap match combined with lag, i own SFA3 and rageing demon doesnt bother me all that in the game, much but i hate rank hunters and such, anyway, i think they should tweak rageing demon to do less damage ..... [deleted] [edit by viper2040_] STAY ON TOPIC, for GODS SAKE!!!! [/edit] Edited By loadingbar on 1123629108 __________________ Words are flying out like endless rain into a paper cup They slither while they pass, they slip away Across the Universe Pools of Sorrow, Waves of Joy Are drifting through my open mind [img:sig_uid]http://img315.imageshack.us/img315/8109/spiderman0wd.gif[/img:sig_uid]

08-09-2005, 04:12 PM	#9
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	raging demon is only a stupidity, what made it a good move in the normal games was that it was stopable and was hard to place... which in this game it is unstoapable and is just as muich easy to place ! its the same thing with VARIABLE attack... right in the start helper, variable and super to death... instant kill just because the #### putted it at 3 supers and helpers on... how fair is the game if you consider 2 on 1 or 2 on 2... the only way to be alrght is to play 1 on 1 only... i wouldn't go agianst viper on this mater there is too much strong moves in here ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

08-09-2005, 08:26 PM	#10
Windarossa Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Brooklyn, New York Posts: 483 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I have only two words to sum up this topic and all the people who agree with it ----------------------------> Sore loser Edited By Windarossa on 1123644426 __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/Restavega/contest.gif[/img:sig_uid] Punish the deed, NOT the breed!