Helper limitations - Page 3

Roll · 05-06-2002, 08:25 PM

How is it different, Zero? *hugs* (You're the nicest one here) ^-^

DX Zero · 05-06-2002, 10:46 PM

well, theres a box with a small picture of the helpers and the highlight thing keeps moving down the rows and it will stop at a random helper unless u press a key...

TMyApp · 05-07-2002, 01:07 PM

DX: yeah, we almost have that (whout the box... or ability to "select" as the "box" is crolling through the helpers)

if people REALLY want this, it can be done... but, till then, there is another "big change" for the helpers on my list (and it's not just the number)... :biggrin:

Roll · 05-07-2002, 05:47 PM

Ouu!! For once I think I know what someone is saying! That sounds like a great addition TMyApp! I hope it works out your way though...^-^

Physicals r scary · 05-09-2002, 08:44 AM

yes, add more for spiral, i use her the most anyways, if you get in a corner, guess what? she teleports you away. guess what? if your in a shinku, she teleports you away. nuff said

SSJKarma · 05-09-2002, 09:00 AM

i agree that she is good but when your in a shikuu...
if the opponent who shot it is at one end of the screen and youre the others way then she teleport you back in the shikuu since she cannot teleport you behind the opponent !

Irrelevant · 05-12-2002, 09:29 AM

Psylocke: 3
Hard to hop, & quick to come out.

Sentinel: 8
Attack very short and easily dodged.

Shuma-Gorath: 5
Slow, but hard to dodge.

Spiral: 7
Not that useful, but can be a life-saver.

Sakura: 3
Fairly fast, virtually impossible to dodge exept with Chun-Li.

Venom: 9
How do you aim this guy? Slow to come out, small range, short attack.

I don't really know about the others.

(Edited by Irrelevant at 12:30 pm on May 12, 2002)

ZeroEna · 05-12-2002, 10:28 AM

hmm... Definatly the box it would be much better definaly much better because that way you don't stand the chance of always getting stuck with the same person. Personaly if it were possinble I'd want Hyato or Jin as a helper. Just play Plasma Sword and you'll see what I mean. Irrelevent quote's from Link's awakening right? Never did under stand that quote. :cheesy:

[I] "To those with dreams fly to your dreams"

Irrelevant · 05-14-2002, 08:22 AM

I've just had a great idea for making helpers fairer!

At the moment, whoever doesn't choose first ends up with a random one, right?
Could that be changed so that they end up with the *same* helper as the person who got in first?

PS: The scrolling box is a great idea.

Troy88 · 05-15-2002, 09:08 AM

Irrelevant: due to a bug, player 2 gets a random helper regardless (80% of the time).

If this bug were to be fixed so that both p1 and p2 could pick whoever they wanted, then I don't have a problem with the way things are now (although I still think it's BS that you can call out a helper in the middle of getting supered). If helpers are to be numbered, however, I vote for the following:

Psylocke: 2
What would half of you do if you didn't have Psylocke to break your opponent's supers? Learn how to block! Or super jump!

Blanka: 3
The ultimate super breaker (comes out super fast). He's not that powerful, however, so he's a half step below Psylocke.

Guile: 5
Average speed, can break a super, but if you are getting beat down in the corner, he'll jump out BEHIND your opponent, and his sonic boom will miss altogether. That sucks.

Shuma Goraith: 3
Almost as good as Psylocke, but seems to come out a bit slower.

Sentinal: 7
Sentinal is powerful, but will miss the target 2/3's of the time. Plus he's slow and you can see him coming from a mile away.

Spiral: infinite :biggrin:
.....

Venom: 7
THE slowest helper in the game. By the time he gets out there, the super is more than likely near completion. If you see him coming during normal gameplay, you have time to grab a snack and something to drink and still super jump out of his way.

Sakura: 4
Sakura is decent. She has a wide range of attack, and takes decent damage. She's a bit on the slow side, however, so she's a step below Shuma Goraith and Blanka.

I also have a suggestion for Spiral. When you call her out, I've noticed that she says "switch." However, you usually end up right in front of your opponent. If calling her out actually made you and your opponent switch places, that would be quite useful in a match. Just a thought.

(Edited by Troy88 at 12:31 pm on May 15, 2002)

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05-06-2002, 08:25 PM	#21
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05-06-2002, 10:46 PM	#22
DX Zero Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,139 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well, theres a box with a small picture of the helpers and the highlight thing keeps moving down the rows and it will stop at a random helper unless u press a key... __________________ DX was here.

05-07-2002, 05:47 PM	#24
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Ouu!! For once I think I know what someone is saying! That sounds like a great addition TMyApp! I hope it works out your way though...^-^ __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

05-09-2002, 08:44 AM	#25
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05-07-2002, 01:07 PM	#23
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05-09-2002, 09:00 AM	#26
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i agree that she is good but when your in a shikuu... if the opponent who shot it is at one end of the screen and youre the others way then she teleport you back in the shikuu since she cannot teleport you behind the opponent ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

05-12-2002, 09:29 AM	#27
Irrelevant Member New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Inside my own head... Posts: 97 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Psylocke: 3 Hard to hop, & quick to come out. Sentinel: 8 Attack very short and easily dodged. Shuma-Gorath: 5 Slow, but hard to dodge. Spiral: 7 Not that useful, but can be a life-saver. Sakura: 3 Fairly fast, virtually impossible to dodge exept with Chun-Li. Venom: 9 How do you aim this guy? Slow to come out, small range, short attack. I don't really know about the others. (Edited by Irrelevant at 12:30 pm on May 12, 2002) __________________ Do not argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy, and taste good with Brie...

05-12-2002, 10:28 AM	#28
ZeroEna Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: L2 Posts: 885 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	hmm... Definatly the box it would be much better definaly much better because that way you don't stand the chance of always getting stuck with the same person. Personaly if it were possinble I'd want Hyato or Jin as a helper. Just play Plasma Sword and you'll see what I mean. Irrelevent quote's from Link's awakening right? Never did under stand that quote. :cheesy: [I] "To those with dreams fly to your dreams" __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.moonlotus.net/themesong/roadtothewest.jpg[/img:sig_uid] "To those with dreams... let them fly high" "I make my own destiny!!!"

05-14-2002, 08:22 AM	#29
Irrelevant Member New Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Inside my own head... Posts: 97 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I've just had a great idea for making helpers fairer! At the moment, whoever doesn't choose first ends up with a random one, right? Could that be changed so that they end up with the same helper as the person who got in first? PS: The scrolling box is a great idea. __________________ Do not argue with a dragon, for you are crunchy, and taste good with Brie...

05-15-2002, 09:08 AM	#30
Troy88 Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 345 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Irrelevant: due to a bug, player 2 gets a random helper regardless (80% of the time). If this bug were to be fixed so that both p1 and p2 could pick whoever they wanted, then I don't have a problem with the way things are now (although I still think it's BS that you can call out a helper in the middle of getting supered). If helpers are to be numbered, however, I vote for the following: Psylocke: 2 What would half of you do if you didn't have Psylocke to break your opponent's supers? Learn how to block! Or super jump! Blanka: 3 The ultimate super breaker (comes out super fast). He's not that powerful, however, so he's a half step below Psylocke. Guile: 5 Average speed, can break a super, but if you are getting beat down in the corner, he'll jump out BEHIND your opponent, and his sonic boom will miss altogether. That sucks. Shuma Goraith: 3 Almost as good as Psylocke, but seems to come out a bit slower. Sentinal: 7 Sentinal is powerful, but will miss the target 2/3's of the time. Plus he's slow and you can see him coming from a mile away. Spiral: infinite :biggrin: ..... Venom: 7 THE slowest helper in the game. By the time he gets out there, the super is more than likely near completion. If you see him coming during normal gameplay, you have time to grab a snack and something to drink and still super jump out of his way. Sakura: 4 Sakura is decent. She has a wide range of attack, and takes decent damage. She's a bit on the slow side, however, so she's a step below Shuma Goraith and Blanka. I also have a suggestion for Spiral. When you call her out, I've noticed that she says "switch." However, you usually end up right in front of your opponent. If calling her out actually made you and your opponent switch places, that would be quite useful in a match. Just a thought. (Edited by Troy88 at 12:31 pm on May 15, 2002) __________________ http://www.boomspeed.com/ibanezrg23/Sabretooth.gif