Bandwith thievery in forums?

bloodpack · 10-19-2003, 03:47 AM

i know most of the web masters here know about this bandwith thing

recently while surfing the net, i stumbled upon a site about like a crusade to stop bandwith thiefing/stealing

from my own understanding, the owner of the site loses some of his reserved megs when some jerk took the source code from his website, like when you get the url of a pic/jpeg then you linked it to your own site without downloading THAT pic into your own directory

its like youre trying to save your own reserved megs by using others (i would appreciate if someone can elaborate this further)

now what puzzles me is whenever we ask for a tag/banner,
sometimes we put the urls of those gifs directly from their source directly to our forums

i want to know if like, PX forum eats the innocent bandwith of these source sites with those pics? if so, then i think there should be a new rule like to have these pics/jpegs under our own hosting account to save those innocent source sites bandwiths

can someone clear this up for me?

SSJKarma · 10-19-2003, 10:04 AM

its actually true, but that's what internet was all about !

i mean the internet is a network on which all computers are linked together to get you information, images, videos, sounds and everything else you wanna get !

but stealing...
hell yeah, many people cannot dot heir own pictures or think others are good in themselves, but many sites by now uses a NO RIGHT-CLICK on their page. that simply prevent users to know where the images are stored !

ok example of stealing...
you got a good punisher images on your site, i liked it so i decide to link to it so people can see it more often ! what happens here ? simple, the images is no on my web site, its on yours, so when they see my web site, they open that images from yours, since its not on mine ! so basically you're the one that get his bandwitdh used for that image cause your the one hosting it !

that's why many says this on their pages:"feel free to distribute these images/programs/webpage as you want them to, but be carefull to save them to your own host." in a way that kinda prevent the user to do the above, but with a NO RIGHT-CLICK javascript code, you make sure none knows the location of your images, thus making sure none of your photo's will be linked or downloaded !

conclusion: if you host that image, its your bandwidth who leaves, if you don't then its whoever host the image that is ! as simple as that !

10-19-2003, 10:08 AM

SO , if I saved the image to my hard-drive and it was only called image.gif etc., then would that be legal?

Edited By ssj_3_goku on Oct. 19 2003 at 12:09

bloodpack · 10-19-2003, 03:40 PM

[quote

ost_uid0="SSJKarma"]its actually true, but that's what internet was all about !

i mean the internet is a network on which all computers are linked together to get you information, images, videos, sounds and everything else you wanna get !

but stealing...
hell yeah, many people cannot dot heir own pictures or think others are good in themselves, but many sites by now uses a NO RIGHT-CLICK on their page. that simply prevent users to know where the images are stored !

ok example of stealing...
you got a good punisher images on your site, i liked it so i decide to link to it so people can see it more often ! what happens here ? simple, the images is no on my web site, its on yours, so when they see my web site, they open that images from yours, since its not on mine ! so basically you're the one that get his bandwitdh used for that image cause your the one hosting it !

that's why many says this on their pages:"feel free to distribute these images/programs/webpage as you want them to, but be carefull to save them to your own host." in a way that kinda prevent the user to do the above, but with a NO RIGHT-CLICK javascript code, you make sure none knows the location of your images, thus making sure none of your photo's will be linked or downloaded !

conclusion: if you host that image, its your bandwidth who leaves, if you don't then its whoever host the image that is ! as simple as that ![/quote]
i see...but
i just wanna know whenever we post url links of gifs or jpegs whenever we ask for a banner, i wanna know if the forum eats the source bandwith of these gifs/jpegs?

Scorponok · 10-19-2003, 03:46 PM

Yes..
But not too much, it's based on how many people view it...

SSJKarma · 10-19-2003, 10:12 PM

depends, if its an images hosted by this forum or not !
example:
back then we could pick an already made avatar, those were hosted by this forum.
so those were taking up bandwidth from this site !

but, if you have a CUSTOM one like mine, its not taking up this bandwidth, because its on MY HOST not on this forum, so its taking my bandwidth !

so basically, its better to have a CUSTOM AVS and BANNER and having them on your own server !

other then that, i don't know what you mean !

SSJ3: all images are legal, just not those COPYRIGHTED, but let's say that many copyrights aren't even real its mainly just a way to try and stopthe people from taking up their images !

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10-19-2003, 10:04 AM	#2
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	its actually true, but that's what internet was all about ! i mean the internet is a network on which all computers are linked together to get you information, images, videos, sounds and everything else you wanna get ! but stealing... hell yeah, many people cannot dot heir own pictures or think others are good in themselves, but many sites by now uses a NO RIGHT-CLICK on their page. that simply prevent users to know where the images are stored ! ok example of stealing... you got a good punisher images on your site, i liked it so i decide to link to it so people can see it more often ! what happens here ? simple, the images is no on my web site, its on yours, so when they see my web site, they open that images from yours, since its not on mine ! so basically you're the one that get his bandwitdh used for that image cause your the one hosting it ! that's why many says this on their pages:"feel free to distribute these images/programs/webpage as you want them to, but be carefull to save them to your own host." in a way that kinda prevent the user to do the above, but with a NO RIGHT-CLICK javascript code, you make sure none knows the location of your images, thus making sure none of your photo's will be linked or downloaded ! conclusion: if you host that image, its your bandwidth who leaves, if you don't then its whoever host the image that is ! as simple as that ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

10-19-2003, 03:40 PM	#4
bloodpack Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,706 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="SSJKarma"]its actually true, but that's what internet was all about ! i mean the internet is a network on which all computers are linked together to get you information, images, videos, sounds and everything else you wanna get ! but stealing... hell yeah, many people cannot dot heir own pictures or think others are good in themselves, but many sites by now uses a NO RIGHT-CLICK on their page. that simply prevent users to know where the images are stored ! ok example of stealing... you got a good punisher images on your site, i liked it so i decide to link to it so people can see it more often ! what happens here ? simple, the images is no on my web site, its on yours, so when they see my web site, they open that images from yours, since its not on mine ! so basically you're the one that get his bandwitdh used for that image cause your the one hosting it ! that's why many says this on their pages:"feel free to distribute these images/programs/webpage as you want them to, but be carefull to save them to your own host." in a way that kinda prevent the user to do the above, but with a NO RIGHT-CLICK javascript code, you make sure none knows the location of your images, thus making sure none of your photo's will be linked or downloaded ! conclusion: if you host that image, its your bandwidth who leaves, if you don't then its whoever host the image that is ! as simple as that ![/quote] i see...but i just wanna know whenever we post url links of gifs or jpegs whenever we ask for a banner, i wanna know if the forum eats the source bandwith of these gifs/jpegs?

10-19-2003, 10:12 PM	#6
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	depends, if its an images hosted by this forum or not ! example: back then we could pick an already made avatar, those were hosted by this forum. so those were taking up bandwidth from this site ! but, if you have a CUSTOM one like mine, its not taking up this bandwidth, because its on MY HOST not on this forum, so its taking my bandwidth ! so basically, its better to have a CUSTOM AVS and BANNER and having them on your own server ! other then that, i don't know what you mean ! SSJ3: all images are legal, just not those COPYRIGHTED, but let's say that many copyrights aren't even real its mainly just a way to try and stopthe people from taking up their images ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

10-19-2003, 03:47 AM	#1
bloodpack Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,706 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i know most of the web masters here know about this bandwith thing recently while surfing the net, i stumbled upon a site about like a crusade to stop bandwith thiefing/stealing from my own understanding, the owner of the site loses some of his reserved megs when some jerk took the source code from his website, like when you get the url of a pic/jpeg then you linked it to your own site without downloading THAT pic into your own directory its like youre trying to save your own reserved megs by using others (i would appreciate if someone can elaborate this further) now what puzzles me is whenever we ask for a tag/banner, sometimes we put the urls of those gifs directly from their source directly to our forums i want to know if like, PX forum eats the innocent bandwith of these source sites with those pics? if so, then i think there should be a new rule like to have these pics/jpegs under our own hosting account to save those innocent source sites bandwiths can someone clear this up for me?

10-19-2003, 10:08 AM	#3
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10-19-2003, 03:46 PM	#5
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