The nintendo ds vs. sony's psp - Objective arguments only

[Dan Hibiki]

This will be the definitive DS vs. PSP thread, since alamgir seems to want to make his case on the merits of the PSP. I insist that if you're nothing but a fanboy to either system, you stay OUT of this topic. This will be an in-depth breakdown of both systems, by those who know it best. As such, I'll present the DS side of the argument, along with perhaps a few others, and I'll assume alamgir, and perhaps a few others on that side will present the PSP's argument.

We all know the strength of the system doesn't matter; we also know that the library of the system does. So, while we could argue back and forth on the merits of power vs. innovation (PSP and DS respectively), we should likely focus on the games.

I'll admit that the current of library of DS games compared to PSP games, the PSP has a slight edge, but in my opinion that will
soon change.

Now, I was working on this in notepad, and I had this huge, huge list of 212 games that were coming out for the system, but my notepad glitched, and deleted a bunch of them, so I'm just going to make a list of what I feel will be the hits for the system.

The likely mega-hits I'll post in bold.

Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Age of Empires: The Age of Kings
Animal Crossing DS
Black & White Creatures
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
ElectroPlankton
Final Fantasy III
Goldeneye: Rogue Agent
Guilty Gear Dust Strikers
Katamari Damacy
Kirby: Canvas Curse
Legend of Zelda DS
Mario & Luigi 2
Mario Kart DS
Meteos
Metroid Pinball
Metroid Prime: HUnters
Nanostray
New Super Mario Bros.
Nintendogs: Shiba & Friends (One version of game shown)
Sonic Rush
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Trace Memory
Viewtiful Joe DS

Now, before you say, "All those games are kiddy," the games are more along the lines of universal appeal. Just because the games don't have excessive violence, or foul launguage, or blood doesn't mean that the game is kiddy.

I ask that somebody for PSP's side come up with a list of supposed hits and mega-hits, with hyper-links to IGN game sites, so that we can compare.

Warmor: Link to GameStop or something else, IGN sucks =-P

Quass: Um, shouldn't he be able to link to wherever he wants without moderator influence? That being said, IGN did have superior DS coverage over E3.

Warmor: Um, he can. -_-' I wasn't using a "moderator influence" to force him to do it, and IGN wasn't to impressive, that's all.



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[~Mastermax~]

i'll give it five posts before some idiot says

Psp Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[SSJKarma]

A friend of mine owns a DS with METROID HUNTER DEMO and i played it, must say the graphics of that console are pretty good. can't say i played PSP all i seen were preview of it in action. seems like a viable handheld.

in any case, i must say both are pretty much the same, action packed, power packed and greatly entertaining !

BTW, the SYSTEM SPECS are to be counted into account for its what the designers of these games are developping on !
thus the games are all about the power of that same handheld not about how they want it to be !

for now i must say both are pretty good !
i think nintendo as found his match in handheld genre for quite a while !

[Virtual Fighter]

Psp Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dan Hibiki]

[quoteost_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]Psp Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]
OMG!!!1!one!!! STFU!!!!1!

Where's alamgir? Isn't he supposed to, like, be making his case for the PSP?

[evryoung]

Ok, i'll say the basics.

Graphics are way more advanced than the DS.
UMD cd's
USB capability
MP3 player
WIF online capability
Watch movies
Over view pics

For the link to Gamespot Sign-up page https://secure.gamespot.com/rps/basi...c_sign_up.html

[alamgir]

[color=#000000]Alright, i'm here. Firstly i'd like to say the strength of a system isn't all that matters but it does matter a little bit. Otherwise we wouldn't be buying ds's and psp's and we'd stick to our old school systems in the 16 bit era.

Now you wanted a games list and i'll give you some from Gamespot but if you really want a list from IGN i'll give you one later.

Here are some upcoming titles which should be big hits...

Burnout Legends
Coded Arms
Socom: U.S. Navy Seals Fireteam Bravo
Devil May Cry
Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories
Guilty Gear Judgement
Crisis Core - Final Fantasy VII
The Con
Metal Gear Acid 2
King of Fighters : Maximum Impact
Mortal Kombat: Deception
[url=http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/

[Dan Hibiki]

[color=#000000]Burnout Legends

Could be good. I've always been a fan of the Burnout series.

Coded Arms

Looks okay... I'm not really sure how an FPS will work on the PSP. You'd be forced to use the stick and the digital buttons on the other side. That'd be quite awkward.

Socom: U.S. Navy Seals Fireteam Bravo

Once again, my comment on FPS on the PSP. Also, this game is going to likely be available for consoles.

Devil May Cry

If you want to pay $50 for a game that you could easily just buy for the PS2 for $9, then go ahead.

Gran Turismo 4 Mobile

Could be okay.

Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

I'm not a fan of the GTA series, but I will admit that this could be a selling point for the PSP.

Guilty Gear Judgement

I love Guilty Gear, but I hear that for the PSP one they nerfed the controls, making it a button to jump. I'd hope that's just the case while in the sidescrolling adventure part of the game.

Crisis Core - Final Fantasy VII

I already said in another thread that this could be a killer app.

The Con

OMFG The Con?? I've seen the videos and it looks like one of the worst fighters ever. I study fighting games for hours on end, too, so my opinion on the game isn't absolute, but it carries more leverage than an average, "omg tha con looks da good," person.

Metal Gear Acid 2

I never played the first Metal Gear: Acid, so I can't say anything about the sequel, really. The first one received mediocre reviews, though. Around 8.0 if I recall.

King of Fighters : Maximum Impact

A port of an unimpressive fighter for the PS2.

Mortal Kombat: Deception

Another port of an unimpressive fighter. Don't give me any of this, "MK is a good game," crap. The game has nothing when you study it.

[url=http://www.gamespot.com/psp/rpg/

[alamgir]

I prescribe to the idea that I want to PLAY GAMES on my handheld. I have a DVD player for my movies. The DS cart can hold between 128 MB and 1 GB, so space is no issue. I have an MP3 player for my music. I have my computer for viewing pictures. I don't need USB connection to the DS. DS has Wi-Fi.

Some people find an all in one entertainment portable machine appealing. DS has wifi, yes, but what exactly are you going to do with it aside from online games? With a usb connectivity you can do a variety of things with a variety of devices. DS also has touch screen and two screens, they won't exactly stop you playing games.

Also, graphics are a non-issue between the two systems. The DS is significantly weaker than the PSP graphically, but the DS is selling TRIPLE what the PSP is selling in Japan, where there's games out for both systems. Also, DS games are ALWAYS in the top 10 selling software, but PSP games aren't.

Graphics are a non issue, why? Plus I don't buy a games console because other people across the other side of the globe do.

The games aren't 'kiddy.' Just because they're not violent, or they're a little cartoony, does not mean they are 'kiddy.' Nintendogs isn't 'kiddy.' Them dogs can make puppies! Want children to see that?

I never said all the games are kiddy.

The DS is down by a few tenths of a percent to PSP games, according to press averages. There's not that big of a difference.

Like you said, games are what really matters. Since there are games out now, we should compare them, the psp games have much better reviews which are noticeable. Many games have potential but unless you have a time machine you can never know how good they'll be until they come out. I mean come on, just take a look atthis.

I'll analyze your games later since i'm a little busy right now.

[evryoung]

About te Metal Gear Ac!d game, i have part 1. It's way different from all the other Metal Gear games which i for one was suprised about. When i got my PSP i got Metal Gear (my first game) when i turned it on, i was like dubya tee eff! It was metal gear with cards. Yes cards, a movement card to move around (or can use other cards to move) equip cards and weapon cards (even character cards). But once i played the game, it wasn't that bad and the graphics are incredible. It deserves the 8.0 rating, and i herd Midnight Club : Dub Edition is coming out for the PSP also, that could be a winning game.