The nintendo ds vs. sony's psp - Objective arguments only

[SSJKarma]

Listen up, there is no tapping the screen... you move the pen ont he screen and the aiming target follows the movements that's all, just like you would use a mouse in a normal COMPUTER fps game. and no i like RPGs way better... and up to now none of these two consoles are giving me the games i want to see !

the only thing i see fit is metal gear solid, its becoming quite like resident evil thought !
i mean come on, there is like a lot of resident evil and tekken games even DOA which is my favorite game besides SOUL CALIBUR. yet all they do is promote sequels to games that are already 8 or 10 years old ! come one, you don't do your fortune doing the very same games all over again in history right ?

for my part, METAL GEAR, TEKKEN, DOA do not makes a great list in itself for any console. you know why ? because in the eyes of a gamer... those games even though they have new features everytimes, will eventually thinks its getting old playing always the very same style of play each new gen console !

as for graphics....
well... tell yourself that it doesn't depends pictures themselves...
i could show you a picture of the PSP running a movie while the DS is running the very same movie and you wouldn't see any differences !
its all a matter of programming and how the programmers programmed it.
if those programmers had better tools to program on the PSP then its normal they had a beterly looking product in the end !
same thing can go off to a game where it starts out on one console and finishes on another !
a good example was METAL GEAR SOLID 2 SUBSTANCE on PS2 compared to XBOX...
there was a lot more things on XBOX including a way to actually change the ingame cinematics which the PS2 versions didn't have ! see just because they PORT it to another console doesn't mean they can't improve it between both !

so in themselves these images do not show truly what the DS is all about nor does it shows what the PSP is all about !
anyway my only conclusion is that the DS is a pretty decent machine and same goes to the psp...
but as everything... the PSP has its favorite games to play on and the DS has its preferrances as well.
the only thing hate int he DS is the fact that it seems to be made for games with not much buttons... like fighting games seems hard to play on the DS.

in any case i think both are worth it, but if you want my opinion ont he matter, buy the DS... its cheaper and gives you the same things the PSP gives you !

[Dan Hibiki]

The DS doesn't have any fighting games out currently.

[alamgir]

Come on Karma, who doesn't like sequels of good games? Its not about the new added features its about the continuation of the story line. Sequels are sequels not remakes.

As for the graphics, its obviously not about programming. Since eventually you'll find the DS has a lower limit in how good the graphics of the machine can go, a limit exceeded by PSP. If all the games for the DS and PSP were maxed out to take full advantage of the systems' capabilities the PSP would have the better graphics because it has better specs in that area.

About the mouse effect with the stylus, how would you shoot then? To be honest controlling FPS's for both consoles look pretty dodgy, but i'm sure they'll be able to get used to.

There are RPG's coming out though for both DS and PSP. Check these out.

[Dan Hibiki]

I don't play sequels just to play using the same system of the first game, even if I liked it. Each sequel better have brand-new gameplay elements, or it won't have good scores, and likely won't sell that well. Story is nice, but I want new GAMEPLAY, and that's the way most people feel about sequels.

FPSs is actually pretty good with the DS. The DS comes with a plastic thumb pad that you, well, put on your thumb. You use your right thumb on the touch screen, kinda like a touch-screen analog stick. You use the L and R buttons for shooting and jumping.

DSs come with Metroid Prime: Hunters - First Hunt (a demo), and its an FPS (unlike the actual Metroid Prime, which is a FPA), and the controls are good.



Edited By Dan Hibiki on 1117484280

[alamgir]

I just feel wierd about placing my hand over the screen with a stylus for the whole game.

[SSJKarma]

why is ti that when i tell him what to do he doesn't understand and when DAN speaks he does...
man i'll never understand that !

lanyway maybe you don't like the idea cause you like analog sticks better, but i always though that for FPS mouses and very accurate pointing system was definitely better. thus anything that resembles a mouse in my opinion is better for FPS games ! in any case... you should try it and you would understand why the DS is all good !

also by programming limits i was speaking of the actual way the programmers thinks and programs their games. you compared a racing game, but you failed to show images of games that were pretty much very clean on the DS, games such as METROID HUNTER even if only the demo i think the game ran prefectly good and seemed the equals of the PSP graphic wise !

another good example of programming...
METAL GEAR SOLID 2 on PS2 was one game that prooved that the PS2 even if way farther behind compared to the other 2 consoles that wer're the GC and the XBOX... could compare graphic wise to them ! clever programming can truly achieve any real goal and prooves that specs aren't all that matters cause all that matters there is that the programmers themselves are creatives about the methods used to program the games !

so in all honesty, even if the PSP has better SPECS which is a good thing for it... the DS can and has evenly compared to it up to now !
the fact that it targets a younger audience will also affect the way the DS will be sold.
so in all i think the DS is definitely the handheld of choice.

if you want a portable mini computer, go buy the PSP cause its what you'll end up with !

[alamgir]

Man the PSP is not a portable mini computer. Just cos it does things the ds doesn't, that doesn't make it a mini computer. I enjoy the games on the psp better than I do on the DS.

About the graphics issue, metroid looks good but its one of the very few games that look good on ds, the majority of psp games look better.

Anyway in my opinion the PSP is better and so far nothing you have told me will sway that opinion, and it seems like nothing I can tell you will sway your opinions.

[SSJKarma]

Not a mini-Computer huh ?

well...
- it plays games
- It listen's to MP3
- It can surf the web
- It can write stuff in a notepad like
- it can chat with others
- It can play video's !

now tell me, if this isn't the description of a portable mini-computer. then tell me what it is !
don't get me wrong... the PSP isn't bad and i don't think its useless. i actually would like to own both handhelds. but i hate people who just ditch a handheld just because it lacks features ! maybe you didn't see enough games for the DS to see that if other games are bad in generals then truly its because of the developpers not because of the console !

see it this way... if METROID can be that greatly made, then truly the other developpers simply didn't put enough work on their version of their games cause truly they could have done way better ! same goes for the PSP, not all games looks cool on the PSP but you seem to say otherwise.

i say both cannot be compared for both have different view on it and up to now all we have are opinions. the fact we bring forth are maybe good facts but prooves only so much of th ehanbdheld that it doesn't help saying it !

for my part... its all up to the developpers to show us what the handheld can really do and that always takes a lot of time to prooves !

[alamgir]

I never ditched the Nintendo DS, it is a good hand held. When I made the comment I made about the "mini pc", I only made it because I assumed you thought that its not a gaming machine. I never put the DS down because it lacked some of the features the PSP has.

The majority of games on the PSP look better then the majority of games on the DS and I reckon the best looking game on the PSP looks better then the best looking game on the DS. When games start to take full advantage of either systems' graphical capabilities, the PSP's graphics will look better. If you want proof of superior graphics in the PSP checkthis link out, where I searched for reviews of games on both of the systems with graphics' ratings of 8 or over.



Edited By alamgir on 1117649373

[mastergrim8]

Let me tell you guys you know video games are just a route away from the real world...but dont play too much their meant for 2-4 hours of entertainment but remmember the real world is calling out to you...But go 360...But the PS3 is going to have all the sports so go PS3