Which is stronger? - Shinku hadouken or kamahameha - Page 4

akuma_forever · 01-16-2003, 04:47 AM

it is the kamehameha sadly....

Nantuko Joe · 01-16-2003, 08:47 AM

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ost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Dangit, Joe, you have your names all wrong, and a few Kame Hame Ha types that don't even exist as separate types! The "Fatality" version is called the Chou Kame Hame Ha, the Max Power Kame Hame Ha is only used by Jackie Chun to destroy the moon, Hana Gaeshi Kame Hame Ha is just a use of the Kame Hame Ha and not a separate type, Renzoku Kame Hame Ha is used while Goku is training in the Gravity room on his way to Namek (he fires it, and while it is being fired he moves his arms and changes its path to try to meet up with another fireball spinning about), the full name of the next one is Shunkan Idou Kame Hame Ha, and the Waza Kame Hame Ha isn't its own type of Kame Hame Ha, either.

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Dan takes a breather for a moment.</span>

The only ones that you really got right were the Waiting Kame Hame Ha and the Ashi Kara Kame Hame Ha, and that is used but once in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai. The Magura Kame Hame Ha is actually a variation on the Renzoku Kame Hame Ha.

Now then... the answer is simple. Shinkuu Hadouken, in the story, is a single fireball. A brief burst of energy. Kame Hame Ha is a beam of continuous energy. The Kame Hame Ha could overtake any single fireball like the Shinkuu Hadouken.[/quote]
Actually, Hibiki, they're all stated names. They've also got their own differences and unique characteristics. For example:

The Waza Kamehameha could only be used by pre-Saikyo no Senshi Gohan, because one of the characteristics of Waza Kamehameha is that it taps into your unused potential ki.

Hana Gaeshi kamehameha is a stated kamehameha type, as is the "fatality" kamehameha and the max power and the Chaou. All eleven of them are STATED Kamehameha types, so they can't be disputed. Each of them has their own unique characteristics. This is accepted by gurus such as myself, TarkanX, Juuhachigou, Enhanced Frieza, Winduril, and Tenshinhan, as well as stated by Akira Toriyama himself.

So nyah!

Yasback · 01-16-2003, 08:50 AM

:buttrock:

Dan Hibiki · 01-16-2003, 09:28 AM

Tell me what manga volumes those are in, and I will see for myself. You must've read a bad translation or something.

Nantuko Joe · 01-16-2003, 10:04 AM

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ost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Tell me what manga volumes those are in, and I will see for myself. You must've read a bad translation or something.[/quote]
For the most part, attack names are not stated in the Manga (with the exception of Kamehameha, Masenko-ha, Makankosappo, Gyarriku-ho, etc). Attacks with odd names (like the kamehameha names, names for Furiza's attacks, and other attacks by the Z fighters) are all listed in the Daizenshuu (the attack list and character list are the only accurate things in there). So go check it out.

Dan Hibiki · 01-16-2003, 10:38 AM

The Daizenshyu? It has been a few years since I checked... perhaps memory fails me on the extra versions. I need to consult it again, I guess. Is it DBZ Daizenshyu 7?

Nantuko Joe · 01-16-2003, 10:42 AM

I think so, I'm not sure. If you can't find it, check out [url]www.ultimatedbzinfo.com[/u] and click on the "Fist of the Dragon" section, they've got quite an attack list going. They're not quite accurate, and not complete, but the guy, Greg Werner, has been studying DBZ for over five years, and he's completely analyzed and broken down the Daizenshuu information.

SBYRD5 · 01-16-2003, 03:04 PM

Hmm....King Kai Fist X2,X3,X4....etc.

Hmm amazing how Goku stated he might explode from using that power inhancing tech.....but he never did....

dexterslab69 · 01-16-2003, 03:14 PM

kamehameha.......kicks are harder

01-16-2003, 03:43 PM

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ost_uid0="asshole"]Well, this is judging from BOTH at their maximum ever..

Even thou I don't wanna say this, but Kamehameha is stronger, because if you think about it, the TurtleWave can destroy a Planet, but The Shinkuu can only destroy a person![/quote]

Quote:

but The Shinkuu can only destroy a person!

not really..only damage like 25% of life

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01-16-2003, 08:47 AM	#32
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Dangit, Joe, you have your names all wrong, and a few Kame Hame Ha types that don't even exist as separate types! The "Fatality" version is called the Chou Kame Hame Ha, the Max Power Kame Hame Ha is only used by Jackie Chun to destroy the moon, Hana Gaeshi Kame Hame Ha is just a use of the Kame Hame Ha and not a separate type, Renzoku Kame Hame Ha is used while Goku is training in the Gravity room on his way to Namek (he fires it, and while it is being fired he moves his arms and changes its path to try to meet up with another fireball spinning about), the full name of the next one is Shunkan Idou Kame Hame Ha, and the Waza Kame Hame Ha isn't its own type of Kame Hame Ha, either. <span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Dan takes a breather for a moment.</span> The only ones that you really got right were the Waiting Kame Hame Ha and the Ashi Kara Kame Hame Ha, and that is used but once in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai. The Magura Kame Hame Ha is actually a variation on the Renzoku Kame Hame Ha. Now then... the answer is simple. Shinkuu Hadouken, in the story, is a single fireball. A brief burst of energy. Kame Hame Ha is a beam of continuous energy. The Kame Hame Ha could overtake any single fireball like the Shinkuu Hadouken.[/quote] Actually, Hibiki, they're all stated names. They've also got their own differences and unique characteristics. For example: The Waza Kamehameha could only be used by pre-Saikyo no Senshi Gohan, because one of the characteristics of Waza Kamehameha is that it taps into your unused potential ki. Hana Gaeshi kamehameha is a stated kamehameha type, as is the "fatality" kamehameha and the max power and the Chaou. All eleven of them are STATED Kamehameha types, so they can't be disputed. Each of them has their own unique characteristics. This is accepted by gurus such as myself, TarkanX, Juuhachigou, Enhanced Frieza, Winduril, and Tenshinhan, as well as stated by Akira Toriyama himself. So nyah!

01-16-2003, 08:50 AM	#33
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01-16-2003, 09:28 AM	#34
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Tell me what manga volumes those are in, and I will see for myself. You must've read a bad translation or something. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

01-16-2003, 10:04 AM	#35
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Tell me what manga volumes those are in, and I will see for myself. You must've read a bad translation or something.[/quote] For the most part, attack names are not stated in the Manga (with the exception of Kamehameha, Masenko-ha, Makankosappo, Gyarriku-ho, etc). Attacks with odd names (like the kamehameha names, names for Furiza's attacks, and other attacks by the Z fighters) are all listed in the Daizenshuu (the attack list and character list are the only accurate things in there). So go check it out.

01-16-2003, 04:47 AM	#31
akuma_forever Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The World Posts: 4,392 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	it is the kamehameha sadly....

01-16-2003, 10:38 AM	#36
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	The Daizenshyu? It has been a few years since I checked... perhaps memory fails me on the extra versions. I need to consult it again, I guess. Is it DBZ Daizenshyu 7? __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

01-16-2003, 10:42 AM	#37
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I think so, I'm not sure. If you can't find it, check out [url]www.ultimatedbzinfo.com[/u] and click on the "Fist of the Dragon" section, they've got quite an attack list going. They're not quite accurate, and not complete, but the guy, Greg Werner, has been studying DBZ for over five years, and he's completely analyzed and broken down the Daizenshuu information.

01-16-2003, 03:04 PM	#38
SBYRD5 Banned Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6,549 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Hmm....King Kai Fist X2,X3,X4....etc. Hmm amazing how Goku stated he might explode from using that power inhancing tech.....but he never did....

01-16-2003, 03:14 PM	#39
dexterslab69 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 406 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	kamehameha.......kicks are harder __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/Dexterslab69/Tags/dexterslab69.gif[/img:sig_uid]