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Old 01-08-2003, 10:21 PM   #41
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Old 01-10-2003, 02:06 PM   #42
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sorry, i've been swamped with work all week but i read every post (every last insulting one of them :biggrin: ). Ok, to address a few things:
1-Don't you think I already know there aren't throws yet? And of course I know all his moves are grabs except the banishing flat and lariat. But, TMyApp said its possible to implement grabs if someone like the Gief is put in.

2-TMyApp, thank you for his music, but now that you caved on that, maybe you'll throw him in, eh?

3-Thank you all who explained about the 360 movement. To restate it in a brief sentence: it's easy. I dominate with him because the motion is easy. Sometimes its easier off a jump-in, but I can do it while both his feet are planted, so obviously all you guys can.

Now the persuasion:
He's a beast. Ok so what? He's a strong beast. So is Juggy tho. But Zangief is a strong fast easily combo-ing beast (see what I mean?). He is the easiest "large man" to use in XvsSF. Easily combo by rallying a few punches off and ending w/lariat or even jumping in with a combo and ending with a SPD (the...cough...strongest normal move in the game).

Note who's in the game:a quick shoto, quick shoto girl, quick man w/ claws, quick web slinger, quick laser shooter, who are all weak compared to the giants in this game!! (ok, sent. is in the game, but he is still incomplete, so he is not nearly to the capacity of Geif.) We need muscle!!! We need grabs!!! We need tights (well, maybe Zangief isn't good for that....). But we need him!!!

Plus, if you want all your ryu's and ken's and spidey's and wolvie's to get their grabs, Zangief may be the choice for you. He could potentially pioneer the art of grabbing in this game. Think about it.

Anything else before I revert to pleading , bribing, and personal disgrace?

P.S.-NIce subliminal messaging Karma, I like your technique
P.P.S.-I'm not expecting Zangief to pull out an amazing victory by persuading at least 400 ppl. I only want to do better than last time, bringing the next poll's grand total to (drum roll please).......4. That's it. I want my vote and 3 others. Do I hear any takers?
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Old 01-10-2003, 02:11 PM   #43
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wahhhh, wahhhh, i want my air combos and throws, i want grabs too, tmyapp help meeee..... lol
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I was thinking that perhaps a "large" should be added to the game, since the larger guys are rarely seen (onslaught is never used, and sent is pretty rare)

Although, what engine is zangiefs engines based on? Or is it totally unique in it's design? Perhaps we could until a character with a similar engine is in, then we could add him in.
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Old 01-10-2003, 08:14 PM   #45
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have you ever played as zangief before? it's all 360 rotations which are grab moves so not only are grabs not even known to the game yet, the 360 rotations will be a new one aswell. the most keys that regular moves take up is four. if we add a 360 then the 360 alone is a five key combination (down,right,up,left,down) no one will use him because his moves will take too long to execute. unless we totally ignore the old system of 360's and made up new combinations
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now, call me crazy, but I believe that in SFAlpha3 they altered Zangief's motion slightly by making it only a 270 motion (to eliminate the problem of many un-coordinated ppl not being able to perform his moves w/o jump-ins). So, if TMyApp made his moves 270 degree commands instead, then you'd only need a four arrow motion. I think it would be a little false not for him to have 360 or 270 motions tho, b/c thats the challenge of plying with him. Oh, and Xtreme, he is unique. There is no other character in this or any vs. game (I believe) that uses 360 motion. Plus, his dragon punch motion isn't an uppercut, he's the only person who can't dash by pressing both buttons at the same time (thats his lariat), and he's one of the few ppl with a level 3 super. So I'm pretty sure he's the only one with an original engine. The best bet would be just to implement him as an indiv.
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[quoteost_uid0="Jaims"]now, call me crazy, but I believe that in SFAlpha3 they altered Zangief's motion slightly by making it only a 270 motion (to eliminate the problem of many un-coordinated ppl not being able to perform his moves w/o jump-ins).[/quote]
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if they were to make zangief the game would be down for a couple of months because they would have to remodel every charater and give them throws be cause all zangief is throws just about.
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he is unique. There is no other character in this or any vs. game (I believe) that uses 360 motion.
<font color="blue">Actually, there is.

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Yeah, so is Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Shin Akuma, Evil Ryu has 2, Geese, Ultra Rugal, etc. Just not in this game..

But.. but.. I.. well, I guess.. well, another big guy in the game would be cool, I wanted to vote for Sentinel(Revised) Venom, or Akuma, but I guess it would be much cooler to have some giant hairy ugly freak in his underwear (What am I sayin!?!?) So I'll vote for Zangief :biggrin:
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OK...man I understand now...if they actually put someone corny like sentinal in the game it's only fair to add Zangief...then L.Mika. :buttrock:
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