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[Tantum]

The chances that they found this planet based on any other fact, other than detecting our radio waves, are non-existant.

If they found Earth before we "conquered" the planet, they would no doubt have taken our pretty blue planet for themselves, wouldn't they?

And if they found it while we were in the early stage of development, why wouldn't they make some contact with us?

So, you're trying to tell me, that they were afraid to make contact with primitave people? Doesn't sound like an advanced alien race to me.

As for the idea that they are "watching" us, and we have no idea how to detect them, is a rather rediculous and conceited theory, don't you think? We aren't that interesting .

[Nantuko Joe]

The chances that they found this planet based on any other fact, other than detecting our radio waves, are non-existant.

What is your obsession with radio waves? And how are the chances nonexistant? It is indeedly possible that there is some form of extraterrestrial life in a nearby galaxy that can be seen using only the weakest telescopes. Hell, scientists have also recieved odd signals coming from that galaxy, but since they didn't receive our radio waves, does that mean that they don't exist?

If they found Earth before we "conquered" the planet, they would no doubt have taken our pretty blue planet for themselves, wouldn't they?

And if they found it while we were in the early stage of development, why wouldn't they make some contact with us?

How would you know that? You watch too many movies. Maybe aliens and early humans are just like today, with humans studying different ecosystems and the rainforest. Maybe the aliens just wanted to observe us and study us for the time being...maybe at one point they shared the same view as you do (that there are no aliens), then went flying around and found us. However, instead of conquoring us, they studied us.

So, you're trying to tell me, that they were afraid to make contact with primitave people? Doesn't sound like an advanced alien race to me.

Once again, I never said they were afraid. Like I said before, they could have been merely studying us.

#1, if there are aliens ANYWHERE near us we would have found them, Using these GIGANTIC radio satilites. and there are 27 of them in a big Y formation.

It is also indeedly possible that there are other aliens out there, but not yet sentinent. You can't jump to conclusions saying that our Y-formation satellites would have found aliens. Scientists believe that there is life in Io, one of Jupitor's many moons. Io is covered with a huge sheet of ice, and underneath may be water. If underneath is water, it is also possible to find simple life forms, like bacteria, some breed of sea worms, simple fish, or other creatures.

Also, scientists have found fossilized bacteria in rocks from Mars. WHich tells us that Mars once had a more tolerable atmosphere, and that life HAS existed there, but only bacterial life has been found. But it is indeedly possible that there could have been a whole race of creatures on Mars (ie, "Mission to Mars" movie)

As for the idea that they are "watching" us, and we have no idea how to detect them, is a rather rediculous and conceited theory, don't you think? We aren't that interesting

Not that interesting? We're the only sentinent creatures on earth. Out of all the billions of species of animals that exist and have ever existed, we're the only ones with a refined means of communication, a written language, and ANY form of technology. How can you not find THAT very interesting. If I flew off and found an alien planet, I'd definately find THAT interesting. But what if the aliens themselves say the same thing? That we wouldn't want to study them 'cause they're not interesting?

We human beings find ANYTHING new or unexplained to be interesting. and I'm guessing that the same goes for any extraterrestrial life, too

[Tantum]

[quoteost_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]

The chances that they found this planet based on any other fact, other than detecting our radio waves, are non-existant.

What is your obsession with radio waves? And how are the chances nonexistant? It is indeedly possible that there is some form of extraterrestrial life in a nearby galaxy that can be seen using only the weakest telescopes. Hell, scientists have also recieved odd signals coming from that galaxy, but since they didn't receive our radio waves, does that mean that they don't exist?

If they found Earth before we "conquered" the planet, they would no doubt have taken our pretty blue planet for themselves, wouldn't they?

And if they found it while we were in the early stage of development, why wouldn't they make some contact with us?

How would you know that? You watch too many movies. Maybe aliens and early humans are just like today, with humans studying different ecosystems and the rainforest. Maybe the aliens just wanted to observe us and study us for the time being...maybe at one point they shared the same view as you do (that there are no aliens), then went flying around and found us. However, instead of conquoring us, they studied us.

So, you're trying to tell me, that they were afraid to make contact with primitave people? Doesn't sound like an advanced alien race to me.

Once again, I never said they were afraid. Like I said before, they could have been merely studying us.

#1, if there are aliens ANYWHERE near us we would have found them, Using these GIGANTIC radio satilites. and there are 27 of them in a big Y formation.

It is also indeedly possible that there are other aliens out there, but not yet sentinent. You can't jump to conclusions saying that our Y-formation satellites would have found aliens. Scientists believe that there is life in Io, one of Jupitor's many moons. Io is covered with a huge sheet of ice, and underneath may be water. If underneath is water, it is also possible to find simple life forms, like bacteria, some breed of sea worms, simple fish, or other creatures.

Also, scientists have found fossilized bacteria in rocks from Mars. WHich tells us that Mars once had a more tolerable atmosphere, and that life HAS existed there, but only bacterial life has been found. But it is indeedly possible that there could have been a whole race of creatures on Mars (ie, "Mission to Mars" movie)

As for the idea that they are "watching" us, and we have no idea how to detect them, is a rather rediculous and conceited theory, don't you think? We aren't that interesting

Not that interesting? We're the only sentinent creatures on earth. Out of all the billions of species of animals that exist and have ever existed, we're the only ones with a refined means of communication, a written language, and ANY form of technology. How can you not find THAT very interesting. If I flew off and found an alien planet, I'd definately find THAT interesting. But what if the aliens themselves say the same thing? That we wouldn't want to study them 'cause they're not interesting?

We human beings find ANYTHING new or unexplained to be interesting. and I'm guessing that the same goes for any extraterrestrial life, too[/quote]
Why are you trying to twist my words? And how do i watch too many movies? You are the one disregarding the facts, and using your imagination only.


#1) Radio Waves are the way we communicate nowadays, they are part of the electromagnetic spectrum, and they move at the speed of light. So if aliens have found us, they found us by catching our waves.

#2) I DID NOT SAY THERE ARE NO ALIENS!! I said, if they came here already, they have to be somewhere near us. And if they were, chances are we would have found them. Using Radio Wave Satilites.
And why are you constantly saying Y formation, I was just explaining how they are lined up, that has nothing to do with their capabilities.

#3) Yes, there was life on mars, they are also searching for life on Europa (Jupiter's 4th largest moon), which has an atmosphere like ours, and plenty of H2O.

#4) What i mean by "not that interesting" is, if these aliens are so advanced, that we can't detect them, that they can travel at light speed, and sense us without detecting our energy waves. Why the hell would they care about such a primitive culture as ours to just sit there and watch? And not make any contact at all.

#5) If an alien spaceship really crashed in a US desert, why hasn't the government tried to copy the ship in any way shape or form?

[Nantuko Joe]

#1) Radio Waves are the way we communicate nowadays, they are part of the electromagnetic spectrum, and they move at the speed of light. So if aliens have found us, they found us by catching our waves.

Or, they could have been here before us. Maybe they were the ones that terraformed earth (though that's going a little extreme in this case). Maybe (just like on "Mission to Mars") they lived in our solar system, and then left, but come back every once in a while to see how we are developing. There are an infinite amount of possibilities

#2) I DID NOT SAY THERE ARE NO ALIENS!! I said, if they came here already, they have to be somewhere near us. And if they were, chances are we would have found them. Using Radio Wave Satilites.
And why are you constantly saying Y formation, I was just explaining how they are lined up, that has nothing to do with their capabilities.

#3) Yes, there was life on mars, they are also searching for life on Europa (Jupiter's 4th largest moon), which has an atmosphere like ours, and plenty of H2O.

Then why did you mention the Y-formation in the first place? And if there IS life on Io or Europa, then according to you, our Radio Satellites would have found this life by now. Now, if there IS life on a moon of Jupitor (which is in our own solar system), that kinda screws your idea of there being nothing within 90 light years from us (or whatever you said)

#4) What i mean by "not that interesting" is, if these aliens are so advanced, that we can't detect them, that they can travel at light speed, and sense us without detecting our energy waves. Why the hell would they care about such a primitive culture as ours to just sit there and watch? And not make any contact at all.

Rainforest Animals. Take them for instance. They are not sentinet beings. They have no technology. In our eyes, they're "primitive", or lower than we are. Yet, we still study them. We're curious as to their way of life, how they survive in their environment.

Maybe that is what i'm talking about. Maybe these aliens are intrigued by us humans, and consider us "primitive" or lower life than they are. But they are still intrigued by us, and are curious as to our way of life, how we survive in OUR environment

#5) If an alien spaceship really crashed in a US desert, why hasn't the government tried to copy the ship in any way shape or form?

It IS possible that their technology is SO MORE ADVANCED than ours, that our scientist's can't even duplicate it. It IS possible that there are elements on other planets that are not on our Periodic Table, and those elements cannot be reproduced on earth by any means we are knowledgeable about. It IS possible that these extraterrestrials discovered highly advanced energy sources, and it is not possible for us to comprehend or understand their technology.

In lay man's terms: Maybe us humans are not smart enough to figure out their technology

[mooo1]

the only alien life forms that could or already are found are on mars. They are tiny microscopic organisms. Does that count as aliens?

[SolidSnake76]

wow u two arguing about the fact that aliens exist? we may never know for now. if there are aliens thats like light-years away, we might have to find a way to trvel faster than light. and i might know how...........

[princevegetam]

how is my theory ridiculous? unless you can prove it wrong, then it's not a ridiculous theory.

interesting? it is entirely possible that at the level of intelligence they have(having discovered intergalactic travel), the aliens themselves would have ways of thinking far superior to the human mind. we may not be able to comprehend their ways of doing things, because their culture is so much more sophesticated than ours (this has resulted many times in the history of earth).

disregarding facts? using imagination? no one is disregarding facts, but we ARE basing theories resulting from our imagination on facts.

and maybe the aliens are so advanced that they no longer communicate using radiowaves. they could very well use forms of communication far more reliable and powerful than radiowaves. yes, this is damn well theoretical, but it is based on facts of evolution and the history of human advances

[UnknownFear]

Did you just say you know how to travel the speed of light :laugh:
Funny what you gonna do tie scramjets to a bus

But if there are modern alien life forms out there within our range we would be able to detect them
And the landing on the moon thing WHAT ARE YOU GUYS SMOKIN you cant believe every thing you see on tv :buttrock:

[princevegetam]

omg you fckers

maybe they want to stay hidden! maybe they don't want to interfere with the development of our planet!

you have no way of proving for CERTAIN that there are no aliens that have visited or known us, humans.

[Squall87]

...Or Maybe we are just a game to them. O_o! Who knows, they could just have us as a game peace, helping us learn and crap. (Think RTS game and you'll get my point.)