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Old 10-16-2002, 01:10 PM   #81
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Um, could Vegeta teleport away from the mind control when Babadi was using his mind control? No. Babadi was able to manipulate Vegeta, and he was a very weak magician. Therefore, mind manipulation is very easy to do against the DBZ characters.[/quote]

roll not really vegeta could fight Babadi out of his mind, in fact Babadi HAD NO control over vegeta. Vegeta told goku he LET Babadi control him cause he wanted the power
to bring down goku. Remember when he ordered vegta to kill all of the Z ppl he ignored him and fought goku, then destroyed Babadi's ship and went off to take down buu.
Also like i said before uub or the fat good buu (if he wanted to help) could easily take down the whole X-men, cause really buu is invincble. All thou i am not suree that uub is invincble
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Old 10-16-2002, 01:31 PM   #82
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dbz has the power because when gokus throughs a spirit bomb no xmen would stand a chance and mostly all the z fighters could through huge beams like the spirit bomb !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ??? ??? ???
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Oh I see. You're trying to bring in the fact that they faught against each other. If you're adding in this, Vegeta would probably fight against Goku if Jubilee or someone else said that he was weaker than Goku, and the only way to prove he was stronger would be to kill him. Sad isn't it? Now, I can bring up rivalries all day. Would you like to make the fight fair or not? If so then I'll continue.

By Pheonix I mean the entity herself. They both combined, remember? They became one, and increased her power of the mind. She can definitely Control the minds of all the DBZ characters easily, as stated by Nantuko. Btw, Machine, you forget that Vegeta doesn't like to show weaknesses, so he might have just said that in order to seem like he meant for it to happen. I mean, he couldn't have known that babadi was going to increase his strength at all.

And Buu lost his invincibility after he seperated into skinny buu and fat buu (dunno their real names). So, no, he's not invincible.

Vegetto, you'd be surprised how much that doesn't really say. Pheonix could reflect it, or Juggernaut could absorb it, or Onslaught could use his mind manipulation abilities to make the Z fighters forget how to use the attacks. It's all really simple if you know your X-Men. X-Men would really win this battle, but not without a fight.
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Why always debate something with DBZ? ???
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They're DBZ freaks, what do you expect?
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im not a freak rember that other vegetto made it im veggeto with two gs the other won has two ts
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Bah forget this debate... I'm going to start a REAL debate.. :biggrin:
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[quoteost_uid0="mysticveggeto"]im not a freak rember that other vegetto made it im veggeto with two gs the other won has two ts[/quote]
REALLY! Well, how about I prove you wrong with a link, huh?

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whel look at the topic maker it says mysticvegetto and im mysticveggeto
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first: the genki dama (spirit bomb) couldn't kill most of the XMEN as they are good !

second: vegeta didn't let himself over take he did fought like hell to keep his mind when it happenened ! yeah ONCE IT WAS STARTED he decided to try and keep his mind because he couldn't do better ! don't count what vegeta said because vegeta is so stuborn to tell the truth ! do you really think he planned this long before all happen ? no, he planned it when it happenned !

third: you're saying that DBZ win just because they can BLAST better than MARVEL ? think again ! there is not just BLAST in a fight there is more than that so don't act like a noob by saying stupidities like this !

four: in a blast duel, yes DBZ win !
BUT TRY TO TALK ABOUT HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT FOR A CHANGE !

in a very close range fight the person goes at the same speed as the other ! you don't see them going in thew show because it is there to show you fast they can be, but they aren't that fast without BOOSTING up ! get them rid of their KI and they are simple person !
PROOF ?
here's one !
VIDEL is an hell of a fighter !
when she learned how to use her ki then she had become more powerfull then she was ! all that is needed now is the training that goes with it and she could be as powerfull as krillin or even picollo ! as for the saiyen, no one can go to there level just because akira toriyama maked them the best fighter around ! (they die and resurect there stronger, they almoist die, they become stronger, they fight and lose, they become stronger, they simply fart and they become stronger !) now i'm asking you ! can you really say it is fair for any other fighter ?

i had enough of all this !
STOP DEBATING AROUND THINGS THAT CAN'T BE COMPARED !
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