Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga)

[Nantuko Joe]

nankuto: if raditz could move at the speed of light and goku said that his instant transmission thing also moves that the speed of light, then wouldn't that be contradicting it self. then why would goku use instant transmission at all many times during his fight with cell.

Goku's Shukan Idou (ie. Instantaneous Movement, Instant Transmission) does not move at the speed of light. The Shukan Idou is "instant", as in the precise moment he disappears, he immediately appears exactly where he wanted to go. Light takes about 8 minutes to reach earth from the sun. However, if there was a person on the sun, then Goku could teleport to him immediately.

plz, don't be ridiculous. you should know your dbz before posting. gohan is CERTAINLY NOT the strongest saiyan. he just has his hidden powers, which were unleashed by that mystic thing

princevegeta, you're wrong, sorry. Gohan's hidden powers were unleashed by Android #16's death at the hands of Cell. It was that hidden power being unleashed that allowed Gohan to go Super Saiya-jin Level 2. The Mystic form was a power-up provided by the Rou Dai Kaioshin (the little old guy on East Kaioshin's planet). That form allowed Gohan to surpass his own limitations, but because he did that he was unable to go SSJ from that point on.

its kamehameha, not kamehameha wave, that proves you watch the dubbie show.

yes, I also watch the crappy American version so i can look for the many, many discrepancies between the American and Japanese version. The "wave" part kind of got stuck in my head. And look at it this way: at least I didn't call the Shukan Idou "Instant Transmission".

actually most of the major characters have a PL over one billion

There's no way anyone went over 1 billion. Considering the rate that DBZ characters grow, I'd have to say that the singlemost strongest DBZ character that ever existed was when Goku and Vegeta fused to form Vegetto, and I believe that Vegetto had a PL of around 600 million.

Janemba isnt in the manga so he doesn't count.

Fine. I'll instead say Kibit's Kai Kai (Instantaneous Movement)

Raditz can't go at the speed of light. Piccolo never mentions Raditz going at the speed of light, he just says he moves way faster than us( us meaning piccolo and goku).

Yes, he does! He says, "He...he dodged it. He can move faster than the speed of light." or something along those lines.

SF has more signature moves(hadouken, shoryuken, etc...)

I've got a list rightin front of me that has around 50 of DBZ's signature moves, and I can think of more. Besides, are you saying that just because SF has "signature" moves, that their moves are better than DBZ moves?

But Piccolo can increase his size

Yes, but when he does, he doesn't get any stronger. His power level stays the same.

All of Gohans power was unleashed by the rou dai kaioshin, so he cant get any stronger anymore

See my post regarding princevegetam's comment

Oh and Planet vegeta didn't blow up as soon as goku left but while he was away

SBYRD5, do you know ANYTHING about DBZ? Planet Vegeta was destroyed about five minutes after Goku was sent to Earth.

And Oozaru form powers you up 10x from what you originally were at. But still the SF characters would dominate.

Tarkan, let's pretend that at the end of DBZ, Goku (or any living Saiya-jin) still had their tail and went Ozourou. You're seriously telling me that SF would win?

that spirit bomb doesn't necessarily need powers from living things. it can just draw power from a black hole or supernova

Ummm....noooo.... The Spirit Bomb draws energy from all organic life, all living things. It cannot draw energy form a black hole or supernova. Where do you come up with this stuff?

As far as Ground Hypers/specials/supers go, DBZ characters can take out any SF character.

Nope.....

Name some SF special/super that could take out a powerful DBZ character using a special/super of his/her own.

To conclude, I'd like to say that Furiza Form 1, with a power level of 530,000 could easily destroy a planet.

True, but thats freizas max, freiza can't ever go max or he'll kill himself due to the stress

Furiza was not at his max when he used his Death Ball. When he blew up Planet Vegeta, did it look like he was really trying? He was laughing casually as he was charging the thing.

Akuma: Akuma can destroy mountains, using the kongou kokuretsuzan technique. The Kongou koku retsuzan only takes a few seconds to be charged, and used. the power is gathered from the heavens. So if Akuma uses the kongou kokuretsuzan against Gokus stomach, Goku = R.I.P. any form of Goku can goku would die. But saying this is a ground battle since Akuma can't fly, but he can jump very high.

The Shun Goku Satsu(raging demon) destroys the soul. If you get in a shun goku satsu, opponent= R.I.P. The Shun Goku satsu is too fast, and saying this is a ground battle, it's going to catch goku if its a hand to hand combat fight.

The Tenshou Kareki Jin can destroy a huge ship in one attack. It's not as strong as kongou kokuretsuzan, but more than enough to kill Goku.


Akuma can stay under water for days, he can stay as deep as 3,000 feet below sea level. I don't see any DB"Z" character staying in that long. Goku can only stay underwater for about 5 minutes tops. Akuma can sink an Island with one blow.


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Gill: Gill has so much power, he has the powers of fire and ice. he can control fire and ice anywhere, so Gill can freeze your ass or burn it from thousands of miles away from where you're at. Gill can bring fire and ice out of the heavens, Gill can change the temperature by making it really cold, or really hot, and Goku is like any above average human when it comes to temperature.

Gill's Seraphic Wing destroys anything in site. You'll disinigrate(sp?) is you are in range of it. Gill grows angel wings(angels represent god-like powers), Gill can fly with angel wings, and much better than the DB characters fly.


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Oro: Oro 's variable kishin Riki lifts people up to the skies(clouds) from ground level, and drops them like a nuke.

Oro's tengou stone lifts up any debree in the world, and he can control it. Oro can lift huge things with his psychic powers, he can even lift up people!

Oro's variable Yagyou Dama is so Huge that it's almost as Huge as the Genki-dama thrown at Freiza. The varable Yagyou Dama sucks you in, so theres no escape from it.

Oro has lived to be 150 years old which is a really high feet. Krillin at the end of DB"Z" is in his late 40's-early 50's and already has grey hair growing, that shows he getting old. Oro can fly like and DB"Z" character can.


Oro can move so fast, that super strong humans like Yamucha, or Krillin, when they move is only slow motion in Oro's eyes.


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Shin Bison: Shin Bison has huge psychic powers, he can fly as good as any DB"Z" character can, and maybe even better, Bison has powered up ki like the DB"Z" characters.

Bison can teleport anywhere in the world, and his psycho crusher is so devastating that it kills above average humans.

Bison has all the the negative energy from people in the world, and put into him. Now the farmer which is a regular human, his PL is 5, now every human has negative energy in himself, now lets say 2 of is levels are negative, and theres 6 billion people in the world. 6 billion times 2 = 12 billion, so add 12 billion to bisons standard PL, and you got a super strong character.

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Twelve: Twelve is like Buu basically. twelve can turn his hands and feet into weapons like an axe, knives, needles, etc... Twelve can disappear, so you can't see him, and since twelve was created, he doesn't have ki, so you can't sense where twelve is.

Twelve can fly, but not as good as the DB"Z" characters can, Twelve doesn't take damage if you punch or kick him, only ki power can damage him. Twelve can split himself, strech himself from every part of his body(so if your 1,000 miles away, he'll grab you). Twelve can turn into his opponents and use the opponents attacks(but if he turns into goku, he cant use the genki-dama).

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Evil Ryu: Evil Ryu can destroy osuld using the shun goku satsu, and teleport, but thats the super natural powers he has.

Akuma: It is true what you say about the Kongou Kokuretsuzan. However, if Goku can simply pull off a Shukan Idou to teleport behind Akuma and Kame Hame Ha his ass.

You got me with the Shun Goku Satsu. I have to admit, any DBZ character would fall before it.

As far as the Tenshou Kareki Jin goes, sure, it could destroy a ship. But if you pit that against a Kame Hame Ha (which could destroy a planet), do you really think Akuma would still win?

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Gill: As far as the fire and ice thing goes, if he freezes Goku, he could simply power out of it using a Kaio-ken attack. Although I know it is just filler, I can say that he did the same thing in Movie #2: The World's strongest man. And Goku can take the heat. Remember when Furiza blasted Goku into the lava? Goku still survived, did he not?

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Oro: Kishin Riki can lift them and drop them, but what good does that do against characters that can fly?

The Tengou stone can lift debris (if thats what you meant by debree), but a well-aimed laser blast could destroy it.

Yagyao Dama could suck you in, yes, but isn't it possible for a DBZ character to use a blast of his own to destroy it?

So what if Oro is 150 years old? Kame-sennin is over 300.

Speed is nothing to worry about for the stronger members of DBZ. Sure, he could take out the humans, but I doubt he could use speed as an advantage against the stronger DBZ fighters.

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Bison: Sure he can teleport anywhere in the world, and a Psycho Crusher can kill above average humans, but I'm going to have to say that all of the Z fighters are just a wee-bit stronger than above-average humans.

Yes, Bison can absorb negative energy, but a Genki Dama can absorb positive energy.

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Twelve: If he's like Buu, than he can be defeated.

If you wrote all that supporting SF characters and their attacks, then look at this:



Goku: First off, his normal form is kinda powerful, but with three Super Saiy-ajin forms, he can transform until he's powerful enough to defeat his opponent.

Goku has the Kaio-ken, which can boost his already SSJ-boosted power.

Goku has the Shukan Idou, which means that he can immediately teleport away from a laser blast and counterattack.

Goku has the Kame Hame Ha, which is one of the most powerful attacks in the series, and he also has the Genki Dama, which will destroy anything with an "evil" ki.

And let's not forget about the Ryuken (Dragon Punch)

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Vegeta: He's got two Super Saiya-jin forms behind him, and he's arrogant. He won't give up in a fight unless he's dead. He's got the Final Flash and the Big Bang attack. The Final Flash is a whole lot stronger than the Kame Hame Ha. However, his arrogance makes him make mistakes, and he could easily underestimate his oppponents.

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Gotenks: At Super Saiya-jin 3 level, Gotenks would pretty much dominate the field. With attacks like Gekitotsu Ultra Buu Buu Volley Ball, Shine Shine Missile Barrage, and Super Ghost Kamikaze attack, he could easily prolly take out anyone.

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Piccolo: Though he's real weak compared to the Saiya-jins, Piccolo has two key attacks: the Makankosappo and the Renzoku Senkoudan. We all know what the Makankosappo is, and the Senkoudan is an attack that surrounds the opponent with hundreds of ki packets, which then converge and hit the target simultaneously.

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Vegetto: Easily the most powerful character ever to grace DBZ, Vegetto not only is powerful, but has ALL of Goku and Vegeta's attacks.