Religion - Good/bad

[Virtual Fighter]

You humour me VF..., however with Infidels like you, I knew this topic was going to turn into a debate, absolutely!! First of all, know one is

imposing on you for not believing in God. I'm imposing on you for bringing up false accusations towards religion, such as "religion started a war", and all

that nonsense.

Really? What about the crusades? Pop Urban the 18 basically said "It's okay, go and kill, god said so, he's on our side." Yes, god, the christian god, the

one you say was never faught for in the name of religion?

What about the pakistan-india missle threat? They both have the bomb and want to use it, one side being hindu, the other bieng muslim.

What about this islam-judaism guerrila war? Oh, but those are all infidels, so they don't count.

-_-

But you must understand that God's will is greater than man's and he permits something for the "greater" good.

But what you're saying is that even if you kill, even if you rape, you'll still be better off than one who doesn't "believe" in god at all.

]God did not and is NOT responsible for these events, Humans are. Out of all creation, humans are the only ones that failed to do as God wills, by

defying themselves, committing adultry, etc..., thus enabling all these events upon themselves..., thanks to his laws, I will never posses any of those

sickness.

Pfft, you'll never posses those "sicknesses"? Bullpoop. A real christian would say "I'm not to say if i've been good of bad or if I'd ever be good or bad,

that's god's decision. I can only be the best I can."

But you take this "I pray everyday, therefore i'm holier than thou" aprouch to everything.

Let's get one thing straight. I hate religion. I think god is a good concept, but hate religion. Look at all the bad poop that has happened because of

religion. God didn't cause it, god never said "fight over me". You know who did? Religion. The religious figures.

Those which you're supposed to defend.

I understand from the science point of view, of how the world was created. But I also understand from the christian point of view of how the world was

created, but the christian way is much more accurate. That explosion did not cause, so that the earth would be filled with all these different types of

creatures.

You mean the millions of specie of bugs, the thousands of specie of fish, the mamels, the monkey family, the dogs, the billions of billions of animals living

in the world today?

Oh yeah, that's ALOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF CREATURES.

You know what else? we're not the only thing here. Although that's what religion wanted and still wants you to think in some ways. God made us in his image.

We're gods special creatures. God loves us the most.

Let me tell you something:

The number of galaxies in the observable universe is estimated to be around 100 billion (1011), I think. Each of those contains something like 100 billion

stars. Therefore, the total number of stars in the universe is around about 1022, or 10 thousand billion billion.

Stars. Like the sun, all (or most) have planets orbiting them. If each has let's say ATLEAST ONE there's still would be 10 thousand billion billion.


If religion was true, and we are alone, why did god make all those stars and all those planets? Because he could? Because he did? Or was it because there's

something more to everything?

Who's the one living in an ignorant state of being now, Mr. "We're alone. Shut up, quit thinking."

It's no coincidence that we are the third planet from the sun. Just perfect for humans and creatures alike to recieve enough light. There had to be

something before the "big bang" that influenced the explosion to begin with.

What? You're contredicting yourself.

Your religion tells you that god made the heavens, then the earth and then you, and everything in between. God made two people and a world of animals.


And that's all you need to know. It doesn't say anything about no big bang, about other stars, about other planets, or the sun. In fact, if it wasn't for

science defying religion, we'd still think we're the center of the universe and it revolves around US.

Christianity, the most narcessistic idea known to man.

The big explosion did not and cannot create...,

and thanks to God, I'm not racist..., so therefore I don't hate any racial groups including the jews.

Jew isn't a racial group (in this context), it's a religious group, a group which you think are all infidels and

And yes, I believe in Jesus.., in order to fully undertand life, it all begins with God, or you will just end up at another dead end.


So, answer my original question. Can you tell me one thing religion has done that can outwheigh the bad things? Maybe evern just one thing good it's done.

And, a second question added on top. Who created god?



Edited By Virtual Fighter on 1120879320