Armor mode - Hear me out. - Page 3

SSJKarma · 02-09-2005, 11:53 AM

ok, let me explain a few things...
Jin because of that thing you said was almost undeafeatable due to that thing but again people seemed to like it...
but i rather like the MvsC2 way of super armor !

aka ZANGIEF, HULK, COLOSSUS, JUGGERNAUGHT, DR DOOM (to some extent)
they all had their pro's and CON's but fact is, they super armor but again were slow, very slow !

catch the drift ?
so i say keep super armor to where its due and not to all characters !

example...
COLLOSUS = SUPER ARMOR SUPER !
HULK = No super but had a kind of super armor because he is supposed to be hard to knock out !
JUGGERNUAGHT = same as hulk but with more endurance and less speed !
ZANGIEF = His supers are unstopable they can only be slowed down !

see, all of em had a reason to have that super armor and i doubt to have DAN HIBIKI with some, it wouldn't go with the character !
so i say, keep that super armor where it is due, and that is on the big fat and sometimes ugly characters !

other wise i would say give certain characters their super fast specials, like wolverine super accelerated super !

SBYRD5 · 02-10-2005, 05:45 PM

ok here's the thing about the armor mode I'm thinking up..

You can't use special moves...

like you can't do raging demon or shinkuhadoekn.

And you'd have to be at level 3 to do it...

And it would reduce damage by 75% for a reduced time period...

same amount of time as a variable..attack..

==============================================

Also SSJKarma..those characters you mentioned..when they use this mode they will recieve no damage....

but it's only at level 3...

and it's for a fixed time period...

And hyper moves such as...

shinkuhadoekn..

Raging demon..will still have effect...

SSJKarma · 02-11-2005, 10:47 PM

well, i still continu to think we should keep super armor where its supposed to be, on the big fat characters !

otherwise those characters will be unbalanced and people wouldn't want to use em !

nash0r · 02-12-2005, 12:45 AM

one problem...only big fat 1 is onslaught and sentinel...the rest are helpers

The-Infamous · 02-12-2005, 05:32 PM

i think its a good concept just needs to be refined, i think its a good idea because if its like a two on one and they do a variable if youdo the invicible thing at the right time u can stop it, it would even out the totally offense side of the game and instead of just going crazy and attacking , there will be more stratege involved.

evryoung8998 · 02-12-2005, 08:32 PM

well like in marve| vs. capcom with war machine...he has an armor mode where he is heavier and doesn't jump as high as war machince without the armor. but his specials can't be blocked but it can be slowed down....and if youthink about it evrything has it's ups and downs, for example the variable a level 3 can be easily coutered, with akuma dark ryu or with anyone especially spidey, u can jump in da air do the special and hurt both of the characters doing the variable....so nuthing is perfect so the idea is not bad

SSJKarma · 02-12-2005, 11:38 PM

actually it is... think about it, what makes the big characters like hulk colossus, zangief into what they are is the armor !

i know they are helpers for now but they will be playable one day... and if everyones can do super armor then what would be the point ofusing a slow fat ass when your wimpy fast guys can have it too ?

see what i mean... this is all about balance and if the small guy can do better then the fat asses then there is no need to make fat asses... thus the game becomes unbalanced !

that's why i say its a bad idea and that's also why i say armor should be put where it is supposed to be !

SBYRD5 · 02-13-2005, 04:14 AM

THATS WHY WHEN HULK OR SOMEONE BIG USES ARMOR MODE...THERE ATTACKS INCREASE IN STRENGHT A GREAT DEAL...AND THEY REACH NEXT TO NONE IN PHYSICAL DAMAGE...

special moves would take away the same damage as a noirmal move if hulk goes into armor mode..

while as if ryu goes into armor mode..he'll just get abetter resistence to physical attacks not against moves like shinkuhadokens...

black_dragon22 · 02-13-2005, 07:24 AM

It looks like a good idea.

ZhouYuX · 02-13-2005, 12:18 PM

ur on to somethin sby but i like karma's point of view. Lets say one day we DO get zangief..he can have super armor special cause he's a bigger character. but can you imagine like lets use megaman for example. can u see megaman doing moves like hulk or zangief? i can't. I say characters like wolvie and spidey should have a super speed special. and ryu, ken, akuma, etc, they use super attack special. and all of them have checks and balances.
super armor:endurance is high but attack is normal and speed is slow
super speed:speed is high but attack is weaker and endurance is normal
super attack: speed is normal, attack is high and endurance is low.
this would bring a whole new type of strategy into sfo beside oh which character is good against which.

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02-09-2005, 11:53 AM	#21
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	ok, let me explain a few things... Jin because of that thing you said was almost undeafeatable due to that thing but again people seemed to like it... but i rather like the MvsC2 way of super armor ! aka ZANGIEF, HULK, COLOSSUS, JUGGERNAUGHT, DR DOOM (to some extent) they all had their pro's and CON's but fact is, they super armor but again were slow, very slow ! catch the drift ? so i say keep super armor to where its due and not to all characters ! example... COLLOSUS = SUPER ARMOR SUPER ! HULK = No super but had a kind of super armor because he is supposed to be hard to knock out ! JUGGERNUAGHT = same as hulk but with more endurance and less speed ! ZANGIEF = His supers are unstopable they can only be slowed down ! see, all of em had a reason to have that super armor and i doubt to have DAN HIBIKI with some, it wouldn't go with the character ! so i say, keep that super armor where it is due, and that is on the big fat and sometimes ugly characters ! other wise i would say give certain characters their super fast specials, like wolverine super accelerated super ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

02-11-2005, 10:47 PM	#23
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well, i still continu to think we should keep super armor where its supposed to be, on the big fat characters ! otherwise those characters will be unbalanced and people wouldn't want to use em ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

02-12-2005, 12:45 AM	#24
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02-12-2005, 05:32 PM	#25
The-Infamous Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Boston Massachusetts Posts: 239 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i think its a good concept just needs to be refined, i think its a good idea because if its like a two on one and they do a variable if youdo the invicible thing at the right time u can stop it, it would even out the totally offense side of the game and instead of just going crazy and attacking , there will be more stratege involved. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/jayblaze350/EvilR3sig.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Aka:jaydizzle

02-10-2005, 05:45 PM	#22
SBYRD5 Banned Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6,549 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	ok here's the thing about the armor mode I'm thinking up.. You can't use special moves... like you can't do raging demon or shinkuhadoekn. And you'd have to be at level 3 to do it... And it would reduce damage by 75% for a reduced time period... same amount of time as a variable..attack.. ============================================== Also SSJKarma..those characters you mentioned..when they use this mode they will recieve no damage.... but it's only at level 3... and it's for a fixed time period... And hyper moves such as... shinkuhadoekn.. Raging demon..will still have effect...

02-12-2005, 08:32 PM	#26
evryoung8998 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 1,256 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well like in marve\| vs. capcom with war machine...he has an armor mode where he is heavier and doesn't jump as high as war machince without the armor. but his specials can't be blocked but it can be slowed down....and if youthink about it evrything has it's ups and downs, for example the variable a level 3 can be easily coutered, with akuma dark ryu or with anyone especially spidey, u can jump in da air do the special and hurt both of the characters doing the variable....so nuthing is perfect so the idea is not bad __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/coolroms/spawn.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

02-12-2005, 11:38 PM	#27
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	actually it is... think about it, what makes the big characters like hulk colossus, zangief into what they are is the armor ! i know they are helpers for now but they will be playable one day... and if everyones can do super armor then what would be the point ofusing a slow fat ass when your wimpy fast guys can have it too ? see what i mean... this is all about balance and if the small guy can do better then the fat asses then there is no need to make fat asses... thus the game becomes unbalanced ! that's why i say its a bad idea and that's also why i say armor should be put where it is supposed to be ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

02-13-2005, 04:14 AM	#28
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02-13-2005, 07:24 AM	#29
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02-13-2005, 12:18 PM	#30
ZhouYuX Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: san francisco,california Posts: 165 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	ur on to somethin sby but i like karma's point of view. Lets say one day we DO get zangief..he can have super armor special cause he's a bigger character. but can you imagine like lets use megaman for example. can u see megaman doing moves like hulk or zangief? i can't. I say characters like wolvie and spidey should have a super speed special. and ryu, ken, akuma, etc, they use super attack special. and all of them have checks and balances. super armor:endurance is high but attack is normal and speed is slow super speed:speed is high but attack is weaker and endurance is normal super attack: speed is normal, attack is high and endurance is low. this would bring a whole new type of strategy into sfo beside oh which character is good against which.