Eminem's encore album leaked... - Yessir....

[blaze985]

I wasn't speaking soley of that one quote. You quote all of my sentences chopped up, and that takes them all out of context. You only disprove a single sentence, and that's why you do that. You've yet to disprove an entire argument of mine, and you do that in all of your debates. You can say it's just what Joe does, but that's false. Joe disproves the entire argument, and he doesn't have to take things out of context to do it...

And, no, there is no elitisms. I said nothing of being superior; I only stated truth. To be honest, in all of America (even though America is a 'Christian Country'), very few are truly Christian. Even in the Bible it says that very few will be chosen. In a percentage, it could be estimated 25% of all people in the WORLD are true Christians. Thus, my statement is merely accurate and has nothing to do with being superior.

It's highly doubtful that she truly hated HIM. I think it's obvious based completely on some facts here that you've given me and can be deductively reasoned. Fact: Eminem's mom didn't have very much money. Fact: Baby products are quite expensive. Fact: Babies take up a grand amount of time. Fact: She was unable to do most of the things she truly enjoyed doing. Now then, you can't condone her abuse of him. I'm not doing that, either, so don't go there. but, that is not the argument here. (You also couldn't disprove my argument about being thankful for the means God provides and toward that means, so don't forget that.) Eminem's mom, though not very well-established financially, still kept him and provided for him. In addition, she was content in doing what was necessary and alotting the necessary time to do it. She didn't like doing this, yet she did it anyways. Now then, we know she could have aborted him or put him up for adoption, yet she refused. This can only be explained logically by the fact that she did love him. You ask, why would she beat the one she loves? Well, people get angry at things (in her case, this situation), and they find ways to take it out. She found her way. Though it isn't the right way, it's her way. You speak of Eminem being mentally screwed-up because of his mom, but you forget that she's the same. She has her screws loose. No, that doesn't necessarily condone what she's done (in my opinion, even if someone who is completely insane kills someone, they need punishment), but you can't say that she didn't love him.

People get violent lyrics from many sources, but a quote from the song by Saliva, "Click Click Boom" has something great to say about it. I don't remember it word for word, and I don't have the time to look it up, but the gist was that his parents weren't the best. They screwed up, too, but then he says something like "but you don't hear none of that crying ass bitching from me!" I won't say it's word for word, but that's the gist of it. They seem to have the right view; why can't Eminem do it? Furthermore, Eminem is not the only one with bad lyrics like that. The other people need to change theirs' as well. I thought I'd say that so I'm not accused of just singling Eminem out due to some personal hatred or whatever.

And, that Hitler statement doesn't even fit. That has nothing to do with the situation at all. Eminem's mom didn't kill six million jews. She took anger out on Eminem.

No, the gov't doesn't do everything right, but use examples that are current. Past mistakes mean nothing now. Let's try focusing on the present, shall we? The eugenics 'experiment' wasn't to try to make some race feel stupid. I clearly remember it being done to try to focus on how the government can help its citizens become up-to-par with the rest of the world. If you look at our literacy rate and overall intelligence in comparison to many other countries, we're very low. The government was just trying to help the citizens, and considering there are a high number of minority neighborhoods, ghettos, hoods, and things of that nature that don't involve whites, it seems like a logical take on this negative situation.

And, the example of Manifest Destiny is stupid. NO, I DID NOT SAY YOU ARE STUPID; I SAID YOUR EXAMPLE WAS! There, now that that's cleared away... If you find that bad, then you find imperialism bad, for they are the exact same idea. Thus, that'd make you more anti-world than anti-America, if you ask me... Moreover, my examples I used for that take were merely to show that Eminem HAD to put that line about him not hating America in the song for a reason. He knew the song would come off anti-America because it is. That's bad publicity, so he put that line in there to cover his tracks.

'Tis time for school, but I suppose I can trust I'll be coming home to a few more posts undoubtedly against mine. Bwaha! I love this whole SFO Community vs. blaze thing. It's kind of fun...

[Virtual Fighter]

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I wasn't speaking soley of that one quote. You quote all of my sentences chopped up, and that takes them all out of context. You only disprove a single sentence, and that's why you do that. You've yet to disprove an entire argument of mine, and you do that in all of your debates. You can say it's just what Joe does, but that's false. Joe disproves the entire argument, and he doesn't have to take things out of context to do it...

I use what I can work with, and what is important. I DON

[blaze985]

Actually, I don't need to take a hint. I have been asked to continue the debate, and that's exactly what I'm doing. Furthermore, Chris has agreed with me on several points. I find it drastically amusing how I can sit here and have a debate and remain civilized in how I do it, yet you sit there and everything you say is either sarcastic, meant to hurt, rude, or something along those lines. This is a debate (I use that term lightly); not a "Let's all get pissed off" rant. I can know for a fact, just as all of you can, that marriages/relationships don't work (for the majority). I believe it's somewhere over half of all relationships/marriages don't work out. At least a third of children around the world get abused daily. Day after day after day, you can watch the news and hear about all the things that children everywhere have to put up with - things that make what Eminem went through child's play, yet they continue to live in high spirits. They don't complain about all the crap they go through or have gone through. And, even if they did, they aren't doing it publicly, selling records of nothing but why he hates his family, society, America, and everything else that may happen to give him a wrong look. The simple fact is, the censorship he fights against is there for a good reason. Kids around the world who get the chance to listen to his music don't think about whatever it is that he went through. They hear him hating on his mom, and they hear him talking about the whores and the sluts and all the times he's had sex. They don't think of what has caused it, and they don't think about what it means. They just hear, "I hate my mom." Or, they hear, "I want to 'f' you." The bottom line is, his lyrics are bad. It doesn't matter what he's gone through, and it doesn't matter how he feels. If he wants to rap, he should do so in a way that doesn't manipulate kids with bad influences. Like it or not, he's a role model, and he needs to act the part. And, then you dare call me out as some bad Christian? You don't even know what Christianity is all about. You don't care, either. Yet, you tell me I'm a bad Christian? It doesn't matter who you are, where you're from, what you're doing, or anything. You do NOT call out someone based on their religious preferences when you know next to NOTHING about them, and then tell them they're a 'bad *insert religion here*.' THAT, VF, is NOT how crap works. I've rephrased and rephrased my comment about MLK Jr. and how my message is that I hate the attention and respect and praise he gets when he's undeserving of it. And, no, I'm not even going to get into that debate again. So, don't EVER say I'm not a good Christian, and don't you EVER comment on my religious beliefs again unless you're trying to learn or something along those lines. Due to your crappy attitude and obvious prejudice against me, including your comment about my religion, I'm exiting myself from this debate before I say something I regret later. Thanks for pissing me off, and I hope you have a simply SPLENDID day.

[Virtual Fighter]

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yet you sit there and everything you say is either sarcastic, meant to hurt, rude, or something along those lines.

it

[Ludacris]

every album gets leaked lol......... even Em can't be protected from that.........

I'll try to get when I get home..........

[Elena]

VF and Blaze I'm sorry to but in here like this but what the hell does the stuff y'all are talking about have to do with eminem...

Anyways, the ablum sure did leak a guy I know is selling copies....

[Virtual Fighter]

EVERYTHING!

we were debating about his mom, and how i say led to his being fducked in the head, he said that she was a saint.

eminem doesnt like sencorship, nor do i. blaze loves sencorship, and thinks eminem should be censored.

we're takling about eminem being a role model, and about kids listening to him.



did you even read anything we wrote?

[Elena]

Nope sorry I didn't read it I read parts...and it didn't seem like it was about eminem...DO YOU SEE HOW LONG IT IS?! I ain't got time to read it. but i will put in my 2 cents, I believe that no one should be censored. Why because it is how they are feeling? Rappin' is like poetry at times. You don't see ppl censoring it most of the times. but if they do want to restrict it then could just make sure you are eighteen when you buy it or you have to get the edited version...Which probably won't work because ppl would just copy other ppl's cd's or get someone who is 18 to get it.
Do I believe he should be a role model?
He surely ain't no mother Theresa. but he does tell us to stand for what we believe in. And it is not as though he can help that ppl see him as a role model. If ppl get mad at that then they shouldn't be blaming Eminem they should be blaming what ever got the person feeling that way.

[Virtual Fighter]

Nope sorry I didn't read it I read parts...and it didn't seem like it was about eminem...DO YOU SEE HOW LONG IT IS?! I ain't got time to read it.

hehe. yeah, it's this thing i do when what ever anyone says, i have to makea rebbuttle two times longer.

Do I believe he should be a role model?
He surely ain't no mother Theresa. but he does tell us to stand for what we believe in.

true.

also, i dont think people should be blaming eminem for when 6 year olds dress all gangsta and call eminem their role model.

blame the PARENTS.

because if you let your kids dress gangsta, listen to eminem and even model their lives after eminem, it's not eminems fault, it's the parents fault for letting it happen.

its like when fat people blame mchdonalds for making them fat.

[QUIET_KILLER]

A fierce battle between those two I would post something longar a ferocious but go to watch smallville itz on and it is good man is this battle between vf and blaze almost ova ?
Are they going to take it a few skittlez and m&Mz up a notch ???