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KenDaShoto · 11-08-2004, 01:35 PM

this topic has gone on about what Eminem has and hasnt can and cant do has done right and done wrong blaze985 said he isnt smart not by genius standards no but where he fits in hes f***n einstein yea he tlks about his mom did u hear anything vf said? and about white america did u care to stop listenin at the end when he says hes just playin and if anyone has anything else they can point out about how eminem sucks or has done wrong show me ur perfect and ill willing accept everything u say as fact

blaze985 · 11-08-2004, 01:37 PM

VF, I got about halfway through your post and realized something. You didn't pay attention. For instance, you took me talking about the White America song by its title. If you would've paid attention, you would've realized I went into the actual lyrics of the song, as well. Therefore, I didn't judge the song by its cover. I clearly listened to the song. In addition, you repeatedly accused me of only listening to the songs once. I stated very clearly that I listened to that song again just to make sure I got the meaning. Moreover, you discussed the comment I made about him talking about shooting people. I was using what he said in that song to justify my reasoning that in the song where he comments on people asking if he raps what he does, he clearly doesn't. Therefore, he's just 'rapping' about stuff he doesn't even do. I wouldn't go as far as to say he doesn't know about it, for I realize he lived in a bad place. Yet, experience does, indeed, give you a new understanding of what the topic being discussed is all about. To be honest, anyone who raps about killing people is off their rocker unless they actually have killed someone. The same goes for shooting people. Killing/shooting people is not something to take lightly. Oh yes, you mentioned how I said that I don't care what Tupac rapped about. Well, it's true. I should probably care about what he raps about if I take the view that he's the best rapper or better than Eminem. Well, I know what Eminem raps about, and I don't like it. In addition, I've listened to Masta praise Tupac enough that I can have a good estimate of what he does rap about. I trust Masta, and I know he doesn't lie to me. If you want to say he's lying to me, that's your business. That song, White America, is anti-America. He even had to put that part at the end in there to try to save himself. The censorship that we have is based on what, VF? It's based on a government program. Thus, he's pissed at that program and what caused that program: the American government. You can't love America while hating its government. And, yes, he SHOULD thank her for not killing him. In addition, after all the emotional abuse she's had to accept PUBLICLY, I think it's just fine for her to give him some of his own medicine. To be frank, I have three friends who have single parents - moms. Two of those three people's moms say that they were a mistake and they hate them. Guess what. They don't hate their moms. They love their moms and respect them, and they don't condone Eminem's disposition either. Oh, and don't bring my family into this debate. My dad does run my household because that's what the Bible says. Fathers are to lead the household, and that's exactly what my dad does. My mom gives her opinion, but more often than not, her opinion is overriden. And, since you think that Eminem shouldn't love/respect his mom because she didn't kill him or abort him, I suppose his songs and his company share the same bond. Therefore, his company doesn't need to love, respect Eminem. Nor does it need him. One thing you failed to contend with is stock. You can easily buy out a company, and if someone were to buy out Eminem's company, it would run just the same. In fact, it could run even better, depending on the business man who took it over. Oh, and again... Rap and Rock are totally different. Notes don't define a genre of music. In fact, considering notes are in ALL types of music (yes, that includes Country), they can't be a valid point of reference. You must go into tempo, beat, instruments, and things of that nature. To do a rap song, you need a synthesizer, a rapper, and maybe, just maybe, a set of drums and a keyboard. The funny thing is, the rapper is what makes the rap song. Without the rapper, it'd be a version of techno or R&B. Rock music is totally different. What makes rock... rock... is not the singer. In fact, Metallica has proven time and time again that it does not take a vocalist to make a rock song. The simple emphasis on the two genres is enough to point out why they are impossible to compare. Furthermore, you can't take my statement about Communism to mean I'm Anti-American. The meaning behind that statement (you obviously didn't catch it and perhaps others didn't either) is that Communist Dictatorships don't allow such rebelious thoughts. Therefore, he'd be dealt with in a way that would silence him. As history shows, that is usually execution. Sure, Eminem might not deserve something as drastic as execution, but censorship is definitely good. Perhaps we should pass a law to uber-censor him. Oh, and since you love to pick on my "Communism is the best form of government ON PAPER" attitude, I'd like to make two comments about that. Number one, it's the truth. On paper, Communism IS the best form of government. Number two, I'm well aware of the fact that if this was a Communist nation, two things would occur. Number one, my family would no longer be rich. Number two, our nation would crumble... So, with that said, get off the "blaze is a Communist, and therefore against America" point of view.

Virtual Fighter · 11-08-2004, 03:36 PM

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You didn't pay attention. For instance, you took me talking about the White America song by its title. If you would've paid attention, you would've realized I went into the actual lyrics of the song, as well.

but in there ISNT ANYTHING RACIST IN THE SONG. Nor is it anti american.

Okay, so you didn

KenDaShoto · 11-08-2004, 03:41 PM

YEAH! WHAT HE SAID!

Edited By KenDaShoto on 1099957322

Battleaxe22 · 11-08-2004, 05:12 PM

[quote

ost_uid0="KenDaShoto"]this topic has gone on about what Eminem has and hasnt can and cant do has done right and done wrong blaze985 said he isnt smart not by genius standards no but where he fits in hes f***n einstein yea he tlks about his mom did u hear anything vf said? and about white america did u care to stop listenin at the end when he says hes just playin and if anyone has anything else they can point out about how eminem sucks or has done wrong show me ur perfect and ill willing accept everything u say as fact[/quote]
I'm afraid you are going to have to let the big boys handle

this one, my friend.

-Chris

KenDaShoto · 11-08-2004, 05:22 PM

Big Boys = VF and Blaze985

Battleaxe22 · 11-08-2004, 06:57 PM

[quote

ost_uid0="KenDaShoto"]Big Boys = VF and Blaze985[/quote]
You'll notice my input has been on par with the other two

aforementioned members. Both of these individuals will agree

that they can have an intelligent conversation with me, Ken,

I have yet to see anything relevant posted on your behalf,

however.

Please do have a good day.

-Chris

KenDaShoto · 11-08-2004, 07:08 PM

twice u have insulted my intelligence and twice i have set myselfup for u to do so

blaze985 · 11-08-2004, 08:46 PM

Please, please, please, VF, try quoting my posts in the correct context. When you simply quote "censorship is good" it makes me seem like an idiot, but in reality, I explained that take in my post. You can't disprove someone when you take what they say out of context...

And, I'll take your religious take on Adam and Eve first. That part about Eve being made from Adam's rib is not to be translated into them being equal. It shows that the women are dependant on the men, and it shows that the men should be the leaders. To be honest, it doesn't matter if you like that or not. This entire conversation is almost pointless, for this is based COMPLETELY on opinion. I don't like Eminem, and you do. Thus, my thoughts of Eminem can't be disproven, and your thoughts of Eminem can't be disproven. Considering opinions aren't fact, you can't disprove them.

What I'm about to say shows my views on the situation of him and his mom, and most of you will disagree considering I'm one of the only true Christians in this community. With that said, here we go... Life is something you owe to God. And, God uses women for child-bearing. Thus, like it or not, you must be thankful for/towards that means in which He uses. In addition, psychiatry tells us that she wouldn't deal with the financial expenses that come along with the addition of a baby. She, more than likely, is only upset at the situation having a baby put her in, and now she looks back and is ashamed of her decision. but, I've been interrupted like... six million times, so I'm going to conclude this post for the time being.

Virtual Fighter · 11-08-2004, 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Please, please, please, VF, try quoting my posts in the correct context. When you simply quote "censorship is good" it makes me seem like an idiot, but in reality, I explained that take in my post. You can't disprove someone when you take what they say out of context...

please, please, please, blaze. I was obviously kidding, since I said

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11-08-2004, 01:35 PM	#31
KenDaShoto Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 329 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	this topic has gone on about what Eminem has and hasnt can and cant do has done right and done wrong blaze985 said he isnt smart not by genius standards no but where he fits in hes f***n einstein yea he tlks about his mom did u hear anything vf said? and about white america did u care to stop listenin at the end when he says hes just playin and if anyone has anything else they can point out about how eminem sucks or has done wrong show me ur perfect and ill willing accept everything u say as fact __________________ "They killed Kenny. YOU BASTARDS!" [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/Floaterz/kenny.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

11-08-2004, 01:37 PM	#32
blaze985 Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 125 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	VF, I got about halfway through your post and realized something. You didn't pay attention. For instance, you took me talking about the White America song by its title. If you would've paid attention, you would've realized I went into the actual lyrics of the song, as well. Therefore, I didn't judge the song by its cover. I clearly listened to the song. In addition, you repeatedly accused me of only listening to the songs once. I stated very clearly that I listened to that song again just to make sure I got the meaning. Moreover, you discussed the comment I made about him talking about shooting people. I was using what he said in that song to justify my reasoning that in the song where he comments on people asking if he raps what he does, he clearly doesn't. Therefore, he's just 'rapping' about stuff he doesn't even do. I wouldn't go as far as to say he doesn't know about it, for I realize he lived in a bad place. Yet, experience does, indeed, give you a new understanding of what the topic being discussed is all about. To be honest, anyone who raps about killing people is off their rocker unless they actually have killed someone. The same goes for shooting people. Killing/shooting people is not something to take lightly. Oh yes, you mentioned how I said that I don't care what Tupac rapped about. Well, it's true. I should probably care about what he raps about if I take the view that he's the best rapper or better than Eminem. Well, I know what Eminem raps about, and I don't like it. In addition, I've listened to Masta praise Tupac enough that I can have a good estimate of what he does rap about. I trust Masta, and I know he doesn't lie to me. If you want to say he's lying to me, that's your business. That song, White America, is anti-America. He even had to put that part at the end in there to try to save himself. The censorship that we have is based on what, VF? It's based on a government program. Thus, he's pissed at that program and what caused that program: the American government. You can't love America while hating its government. And, yes, he SHOULD thank her for not killing him. In addition, after all the emotional abuse she's had to accept PUBLICLY, I think it's just fine for her to give him some of his own medicine. To be frank, I have three friends who have single parents - moms. Two of those three people's moms say that they were a mistake and they hate them. Guess what. They don't hate their moms. They love their moms and respect them, and they don't condone Eminem's disposition either. Oh, and don't bring my family into this debate. My dad does run my household because that's what the Bible says. Fathers are to lead the household, and that's exactly what my dad does. My mom gives her opinion, but more often than not, her opinion is overriden. And, since you think that Eminem shouldn't love/respect his mom because she didn't kill him or abort him, I suppose his songs and his company share the same bond. Therefore, his company doesn't need to love, respect Eminem. Nor does it need him. One thing you failed to contend with is stock. You can easily buy out a company, and if someone were to buy out Eminem's company, it would run just the same. In fact, it could run even better, depending on the business man who took it over. Oh, and again... Rap and Rock are totally different. Notes don't define a genre of music. In fact, considering notes are in ALL types of music (yes, that includes Country), they can't be a valid point of reference. You must go into tempo, beat, instruments, and things of that nature. To do a rap song, you need a synthesizer, a rapper, and maybe, just maybe, a set of drums and a keyboard. The funny thing is, the rapper is what makes the rap song. Without the rapper, it'd be a version of techno or R&B. Rock music is totally different. What makes rock... rock... is not the singer. In fact, Metallica has proven time and time again that it does not take a vocalist to make a rock song. The simple emphasis on the two genres is enough to point out why they are impossible to compare. Furthermore, you can't take my statement about Communism to mean I'm Anti-American. The meaning behind that statement (you obviously didn't catch it and perhaps others didn't either) is that Communist Dictatorships don't allow such rebelious thoughts. Therefore, he'd be dealt with in a way that would silence him. As history shows, that is usually execution. Sure, Eminem might not deserve something as drastic as execution, but censorship is definitely good. Perhaps we should pass a law to uber-censor him. Oh, and since you love to pick on my "Communism is the best form of government ON PAPER" attitude, I'd like to make two comments about that. Number one, it's the truth. On paper, Communism IS the best form of government. Number two, I'm well aware of the fact that if this was a Communist nation, two things would occur. Number one, my family would no longer be rich. Number two, our nation would crumble... So, with that said, get off the "blaze is a Communist, and therefore against America" point of view. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/RaVeN/renoblaze.gif[/img:sig_uid] Insanity is the teddy bear I cling to, the blankey I hide under.

11-08-2004, 03:41 PM	#34
KenDaShoto Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 329 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	YEAH! WHAT HE SAID! Edited By KenDaShoto on 1099957322 __________________ "They killed Kenny. YOU BASTARDS!" [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/Floaterz/kenny.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

11-08-2004, 05:12 PM	#35
Battleaxe22 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 496 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="KenDaShoto"]this topic has gone on about what Eminem has and hasnt can and cant do has done right and done wrong blaze985 said he isnt smart not by genius standards no but where he fits in hes f***n einstein yea he tlks about his mom did u hear anything vf said? and about white america did u care to stop listenin at the end when he says hes just playin and if anyone has anything else they can point out about how eminem sucks or has done wrong show me ur perfect and ill willing accept everything u say as fact[/quote] I'm afraid you are going to have to let the big boys handle this one, my friend. -Chris

11-08-2004, 05:22 PM	#36
KenDaShoto Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 329 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Big Boys = VF and Blaze985 __________________ "They killed Kenny. YOU BASTARDS!" [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/Floaterz/kenny.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

11-08-2004, 06:57 PM	#37
Battleaxe22 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 496 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="KenDaShoto"]Big Boys = VF and Blaze985[/quote] You'll notice my input has been on par with the other two aforementioned members. Both of these individuals will agree that they can have an intelligent conversation with me, Ken, I have yet to see anything relevant posted on your behalf, however. Please do have a good day. -Chris

11-08-2004, 07:08 PM	#38
KenDaShoto Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 329 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	twice u have insulted my intelligence and twice i have set myselfup for u to do so __________________ "They killed Kenny. YOU BASTARDS!" [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v90/Floaterz/kenny.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

11-08-2004, 08:46 PM	#39
blaze985 Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 125 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Please, please, please, VF, try quoting my posts in the correct context. When you simply quote "censorship is good" it makes me seem like an idiot, but in reality, I explained that take in my post. You can't disprove someone when you take what they say out of context... And, I'll take your religious take on Adam and Eve first. That part about Eve being made from Adam's rib is not to be translated into them being equal. It shows that the women are dependant on the men, and it shows that the men should be the leaders. To be honest, it doesn't matter if you like that or not. This entire conversation is almost pointless, for this is based COMPLETELY on opinion. I don't like Eminem, and you do. Thus, my thoughts of Eminem can't be disproven, and your thoughts of Eminem can't be disproven. Considering opinions aren't fact, you can't disprove them. What I'm about to say shows my views on the situation of him and his mom, and most of you will disagree considering I'm one of the only true Christians in this community. With that said, here we go... Life is something you owe to God. And, God uses women for child-bearing. Thus, like it or not, you must be thankful for/towards that means in which He uses. In addition, psychiatry tells us that she wouldn't deal with the financial expenses that come along with the addition of a baby. She, more than likely, is only upset at the situation having a baby put her in, and now she looks back and is ashamed of her decision. but, I've been interrupted like... six million times, so I'm going to conclude this post for the time being. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/RaVeN/renoblaze.gif[/img:sig_uid] Insanity is the teddy bear I cling to, the blankey I hide under.