[ HELPERS ] - official discussion

[Selvin]

Ugh...

[Akuma]

Here are a few helper ideas (by the way i like the helpers the way they are now, in regards to using them to help get out of supers)

*Thanos thowing out a capture bubble or Magneto with his capture special.
*Omega Red using his carbonium to suck super meter out of enemy and give it to you.
*Dan with his autograph picture (just for fun)
*Instead of Venom coming out and doing what he does.. have him come out and do his web throw (this would be cool cuz you never know where the enemy will end up after the throw).
*Jill coming out and giving you a herb for health.
*Anita (she was hidden in Marvel super heroes) Leaving an explosive doll (with like a 3 or 5 second timer that could damage either player)
*M Bison doing his warp, but taking you with him to a random location.
*I don't know about anyone else, but i think Sentinal is almost worthless. How about having him do a downward rocket punch for one hit that would do a knock back.
*Since Zangief probably won't be in the game itself, how about him coming out and doing a throw move? Maybe even make it Mecha Zangief.
*Strider giving you one of those little mecha helper things that circle around you and shoots. give it like 3 or 5 shots before dissapearing.
*Thanos who drops a random infinity gem. Giving you a Soul Gem which heals you for 5-10 seconds, a Time gem that makes you faster for 5-10 seconds, a Space gem that gives you super armor (where you can take hits without being knocked down or even realing) for 5-10 seconds, a Mind gem that charges super meter for 5-10 seconds, Reality gem that gives you 5 instant fire/ice/junk projectiles, and of course the power gem which gives you extra damage for 5-10 seconds.
*Cyber Akuma shooting his mecha arm which chases the enemy.

That's about all i can think of right now
hope this helps

[Akuma]

Oh yeah and

*Dr Doom who gives you a molecular shield.
*Ice Man dropping that big Ice ball, but instead of damage, make it freeze the enemy for a few seconds (kinda like Thanos' death sphere or Magneto's Hyper Gravitation)
*A Servebot who brings some food to regain health
*Dhalsim who comes out and yoga teleports you.
*Either Captain America who comes out and stands in front of you with his shield, who can take up to 5 hits, or spider man giving you a web shield that can take up to 5 hits.
*Vega coming out and throwing a rose to the ground, and whoever steps on it gets damage from thorns (ok i'm really reaching here..lol)


And TMy, thanks alot for uploading those avatars for me. Much apreciation for that.

[rocky]

just forget

on yhe point of using helper use guile and pyslocke

[Akuma]

He asked for new ideas for helpers rocky, you dingleberry.

Guile and Psylocke are both projectile helpers. They're boring and getting old. Yeah they're useful, but any idiot with two fingers can use them. The idea is getting helpers that help you in other ways.

[Selvin]

Now I don't know why everyone wants Dhalsim as a helper WHEN HE IS IN THE GAME!?! Would you want to be the person and then have him as a character??

[Onslaught]

Good point, Selvin. There are plenty of stupid people out there!

Oh, and AWSOME ideas Akuma! :biggrin:
Very creative!

[Mye]

I like akuma's ideas and TMyApp's ideas. If this is going to happen, sweet:biggrin: . Ideas like this are cool, the game will be awesome if this happens.

[nosoul4evr]

hmmmm

Helpers should be able to be used when your getting hit...with lag some combo's are completey unbreakable with out the aid of your helper.

Sentinal need a tweak he's probably the hardest helper to use,i think he needs to do more damage when you do get a hit with him..or shoot a wider beam...or have his shot last longer..

HELPER IDEA:How about a helper that appears beside you and creates a force bubble around you. It does no damage but seperates the two players ,specials and supers can not pierce the bubble.meaning neither player can hurt each other with out a helper,and the effect lasts 3-5 seconds...i think a helper like this would work great for when a player is getting cornered and cant escape do to lag..or the 2 opponents are in a corner and cant tell who is the walled fighter...and it could help put an end to corner bitching...on a rematch a sore walled victim could choose the "seperating helper"...and i think this delay in combat would allow the game time to keep sync too since no damage other than helper damage is being dealt during the use of this new helper...plus you could use it to force your opponent around the ring :biggrin:

HELPER IDEA:How about a helper that grants you levetation and elevates you just high enough to avoid floor attacks and giving you air superiority thus to defeat your opponent you need to use airial moves to hit him while he's using the helper :biggrin:

EXCELENT IDEA:How about "smart" helpers...using the same helpers we have at the moment..instead of the same ol' helper rushing out and doing the same ol' routine...how about helpers that do differant things depending on what was occuring currently in the match..a person could instead of hitting I,K and having the standard helper animation..the player could hit K,I and have there selected helper come out and do a differant animation...heres my reasoning,With some of the helpers it's easy to get a miss using them..Example:you are cornered and getting beat up bad...you call Guile and he misses because your opponent stepped in,or the game is "lag sliding" left or right. the 2 opponets are in close combat and cant escape each other...so you call Guile and he misses,because you'r on the left hand side of the screen and the game is "lag sliding" left as well.

IDEA:how about hitting I,K summons helper on your side of the screen.And by hitting K,I your helper comes out from the opposite side of the screen,allowing you to "back attack" your opponent. And forcing them into you instead of away from you...this would help make it so Wolverine doesnt need to corner as often. :biggrin: And you wouldnt need "exact" positioning and timing to use Chun-Li's Super Energy Blast,or Standard/Super Rising Kick...with a simple change like this..it very well may take some of the superiority out of Ryu...and should be realitively easy to program in.



Edited By nosoul4evr on Mar. 07 2003 at 07:41

[AXE]

I still say saget
i need he's luck :biggrin: