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Old 11-16-2003, 02:35 PM   #31
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[quoteost_uid0="MIG"]ledmonkey the reason there is a new oracle is because the one from the first 2 films had a heart attack just after she finished the second one so they had to get a new one and come up with a reason for why she changed. and karma i'm not even going to bother arguing with you because it's cleart that even if i do give proof you wont believe it anyway.[/quote]
Yea that's what I thought, something happened to her or something. An then they changed the storyline in teh game and in the movie a lil' bit.
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helllllooo ?

the game came out at the same time the second movie was out !
she the right now in the movie but not int he game. so that would be a stupid reason !
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:04 PM   #33
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I dunno, it'd be an intresting thing to try an research. They didn't release the 2nd movie and the game right after they were done, they could have had time to imput the change.
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Old 11-17-2003, 01:14 PM   #34
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karma she actually did die after filming the second matrix, it's not made up. if she hadn't died they wouldn't have gotten rid of her and changed the oracle to an even older person with a slight speech impediment.
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Old 11-19-2003, 08:44 AM   #35
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Revolutions was horrible. So much left unanswered and the only reason it ended the way it did was becuase they want to make more money off of the mmorpg coming out next summer for the matrix. It is set after revolutions...I dunno i really thought the wachowski bro. thought of this as their main project and treated it like gold...looks to me like all they are doing is mining for gold and juicing the ppl for all they are worth (animatrix, Enter the matrix, comic's).

Matrix and reloaded were the best...part three was a waste of time.



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Old 11-19-2003, 11:57 AM   #36
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I'm tired of hearing ppl say
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I didn't like it cause the ending :angryfire: :angryfire:
Errrrr........Just because the hero died doesn't means it's bad. You guys are sucked into too many happy ending movie. Real life ain't a fairy tale :angryfire: ! I thought the ending was good, very dramtic.
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Old 11-19-2003, 01:45 PM   #37
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the only thing the ending leaves open is whether or not the machines and humans will stay at peace...other than that the only other possible thing is if neo is really dead. and trust me, there is proof that he is still alive.
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Led did you ever think ppl just didnt like all the plot holes that were left open?. There are many ppl who do not like happy ending's, personaly I dont like them myself. I also do not like leaving the end of a trilogy with many unanswered questions. I also do not like interesting characters turned into two-liners and background scenery.

Look at the box office led, revolutions has suffered a 60% drop from its opening weekend that's enough to merit it the title of a complete failure. Ppl who actually like the third one are very few while real fans around the world were very disappointed with this last installment.



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I'm not talkin' bout real fans.(For I'm sure they have good reasons not to like it) But the ppl that just didn't like it because neo an trinity died.
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for all i know i was sure that trinity or neo would die maye both like htey did, but the way trinity died is just pathetic, she deserved to die in a very dramatic way like in the reloaded scene ! that was an awesome death !

she didn't deserved to die impaled on a lot of spikes after their ship crashed !

as for the ending plot holes, explain me some, cause it sure answered them for me !
also the ending really isn't an ending that is suitable, you think its dramatic, hell its a lot of an happy ending !

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neo gets int he machine city, talk to them, get on, get defeated a lot by smith then get killed by him, then the matrix reloads undoing all that smith did. neo dies, and believe me, he is dead ! then the machines stop their attacks then release everyone int he matrix and everyone lived in piece ever after for th erest of their lives !

really howbad is this ?
real bad,

first: a war that big cannot end that way, never will, peace wasn,t an option for a war going that way over time and getting that way outta hands !

second: the fight neo had with smith was just plain pathetic.

third: how come in reloaded smith gets defeated easily, then now he kicks neo's butt easily ! can't be because he took seraph. seraph is good but not that good. plus smith can simply fly and the likes like if he was NEO's double, really he couldn't have gotten so strong in a few hours !

fourth: the train thing at the beginning, its a good idea, but such a place cannot really exists !
as they say it is... its the place where real thing begins to exists. scuse me, but by the way they said it, its almost like machines can come out of the matrix and be in the real world. sorry i don't buy that. it's a stupid thing !

fifth: morpheus becoming a not so important charcater in their is just plain stupid, we like see him do something for like the first 15 minutes in the movie, after that he just sit there doing nothing for the rest of the movie ! glad to see ghost, sparks and niobe a lot more, but still they aren't suppose to have a better role then morpheus has. and they do have that !

no really, they screwed it up really bad it he third installment, its a good movie to watch, full of bloodshed, but really matrix storywise, they completely blew it !

there is only one thing that makes me proud of. they showed with the final fight, that DRAGONBALL is a possible movie indeed ! that's about all i liked to see in their !

see ledmonkey, its not because of the neo and trinity dieing thing, there is way more at stake then that ! but only true fans of the series can really see that this movie was sucking big times !
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