State of the union - And all the other speeches..

[princevegetam]

including woman and children? they were imprisoned too you know

how would you feel if you and your "future" family were locked up one day cause America had some war with Italy?

some japanese americans were even deported back to their home country. there WERE japanese americans who were shot and killed by the sentry. they had to work on acres of farmland. they were also racially discriminated against. kicked around by the sentry guards and laughed at.

[Nantuko Joe]

[quoteost_uid0="princevegetam"]including woman and children? they were imprisoned too you know

how would you feel if you and your "future" family were locked up one day cause America had some war with Italy?

some japanese americans were even deported back to their home country. there WERE japanese americans who were shot and killed by the sentry. they had to work on acres of farmland. they were also racially discriminated against. kicked around by the sentry guards and laughed at.[/quote]
No, because i'm only 1/2 Italian, and have never been out-of-country, and was born here in the US...along with my entire family and bloodline until my great grandparents, who were the ones who immigrated here. There is NO possibility of any Italian American who was here for a generation or two or three to be a "sleeper agent" as i say. Over 50% (prolly over 75%) of the Japanese in the California area during that time were immigrants, many of which had immigrated within a few years of the Pearl Harbor attacks. They were also a minority, there weren't as many Japanese Americans back then as there are Italian Americans today (if they wanted to imprison Italians because of a war with Italy, they'd have the entire tri-state area [and then some] in camps, which is impossible.) Also, we're much more civilized nowadays than we were 50+ years ago, so such a thing would never happen in the US again. And the Japanese who were shot were 90% likely to be trying to escape. The way the US saw it was "we're treating them considerably fairly: we're just taking a precaution. They're still in homes, they were not forced to work for us, they were not forcefully mistreated, they did not have to obey any sort of curfew. If they're trying to escape, they're obviously trying to escape back to Japan with information or such." As far as the ones who were beaten; they most likely caused a ruckus or something. As far as being discriminated against: their people, who were TOTALLY unprovoked, had just attacked a US military installation with NO good reason, without warning. They had killed many US men with no reason at all, and so naturally they were discriminated against. I'm just saying that they had a reason to do so, I'm not saying that they were right and just in doing so.

[princevegetam]

[quoteost_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]No, because i'm only 1/2 Italian, and have never been out-of-country, and was born here in the US...along with my entire family and bloodline until my great grandparents, who were the ones who immigrated here. [/quote]
well, that explains everything. a person will always remain a blinded patriot unless he/she goes to another country and sees international issues from a different perspective.

I find it hard to believe that anyone would even attempt to defend, or as you put it, give the US "a reason to do so".

Note to you, the Japanese in California didn't attack Pearl Harbor, probably about 100% (give or take a .00001%) had knowledge of the attack before hand. The simple fact that you even draw a distinction between the Japanese-Americans and any other type of American: "their people, who were TOTALLY unprovoked, had just attacked a US military installation with NO good reason, without warning," totally appauls me. Most of the Japanese who were interned were 2nd generation, and thought of themselves as AMERICANS, and NOT Japanese. Many of which would be "50%".

No.. they weren't brutally treated and didn't have the same holocaust as was seen in Europe. But no matter how you disguise it, prisons are just that. Meant to confine people not deemed by society worthy enough to co-exist with their fellow man... and of which the US had NONE (ie: 0%) reason to suspect any of these people of commiting treason other then pure and simple racism.

Wow... their country is at war with us. I suppose that means the US should have rounded up everyone of German or Itallian decent too since the US was at war with them too? No.. the US just imposed restrictions on them instead 'cause they wern't so much of a "minority" as the Japanese were.

And that's probably the most offensive thing I can find that you said. Oppression of another race because they're a minority??! That's why racism exists damit! One race = the minority, so it gets pushed around by the other race because it gives them a sense of pride. This is a direct parallel to Hitler's thinking in putting war prisoners and people of different (non-anglo-saxon) nationalities in the holocaust concentration camps.

From this and your past posts, I have only one question to ask you... WHAT DO THEY TEACH YOU IN SCHOOL?? To be a partiotic/racist who'd rather oppress native americans because they "pose a threat" to your way of life?

Anyways... read Illusions...

"Everything in the post may be wrong."

jeeze usa is causing problem for every country...

i know what will happened..hope it doesn't :laugh: lol

[princevegetam]

well! i think 2000warrior made my point quite clearly. i just didn't have enough time to discuss or knowledge of those camps. i do know that it is racist to do something like that. much like how almost every arab/muslim man must be checked much more thoroughly than other ethnic groups at border crossings nowadays.

like my gym teacher who was pulled over by police AFTER he crossed the border. he had to step out of the car and put his hands to the car and allow the police to search him. i thought this was totally unnecessary. he wasn't even muslim, he was indian.

and how when my family tried to cross the border to visit some friends in the states, the guy at the border crossing yelled at my father cause my dad didn't speak english very well and the guy talked a little too fast for him to comprehend(i got kind of pissed, cause of this bullpoop, no way am i gonna let some american push me around). we had to open our trunk and backseat for the guy to search. and yet there was a white guy before us who got to through without having anything checked. we weren't even close to being middle eastern, we were chinese.