The nintendo ds vs. sony's psp - Objective arguments only - Page 2

SSJKarma · 05-26-2005, 06:11 PM

Well as i mentionned... i haven't played the PSP but i did see it in action.

both consoles are fine the way they are, even though the DS isn't strong spec wise. it still do not need that much power to run a good FPS game ! tell me compared to the PSP.which console is better for which kind of games. a good example is this one... PSP could be better for fighting games or platform games. but the DS is way better for FPS for it has the mean for the mouselike action. and that is the thing FPS were always all about.

in all honesty... i'm with DAN HIBIKI on this one. the PSP lacks a few features for certain type of games.
as for the all in 1 things...
well again i'm with DAN HIBIKI on this one. thing is HANDHELDS are made for the sole purpose of playing games during a trip.
and SONY seems to start thinking that CONSOLES and PORTABLE COMPUTERS are the very same thing when its actually not.
if you can afford buying games at 50+ dollars and buy the handheld at 100+ dollars then by all means go fetch yourself a portable computer.
believe me it would do you way more goods.

in my view, a console is made for games... back then i didn't expect my SNES or my GENESIS to do me the dinner !
same goes for handheld, at least one company didn't forget that the lower the cost the faster you'll sell !
by having a lot less componnent the DS can truly be sold at a higher rate for it truly won't be cost that much.
thought nintendo were always ont he cash side, i really thin the DS is the handheld for gameplay while the PSP seems to like doing something else then gaming !

alamgir · 05-26-2005, 11:45 PM

Lacks features for certain types of games? Like what? And whats this mouse effect thing you talk about?

SSJKarma · 05-27-2005, 06:26 AM

mouse like effect... the nintendo DS uses the bottom screen to show the map in FPS but that screen also is used for a mouse like effect, use either you finger or the pen to actually control the target on the screen ! thus creating a mouse like effect which ables the users to actually AIM and moves at the same time !

double clicking the screen also does something.
truly between the DS and the PSP, the DS was thought to be an FPS designed Handheld. cause FPS games are what people askes for these days !

alamgir · 05-27-2005, 08:26 AM

Hold on a sec, so the bottom screen is used as a map and a screen where you control the aim of your gun/weapon? I don't quite get that. And fps's are where the psp can make use of its analog stick as well as its graphics.

Edited By alamgir on 1117207764

ledmonkey · 05-27-2005, 10:13 AM

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>The PSP I would say is definately better if you live in or have access to a wireless network (My House has one)..

...It can browse the internet....Well with a hack now...but Sony may be releasing their own browser in a fanware update..

Also the psp has an analog stick...A feature the DS could have used

The touch screen feature is certainly unique....I am not all convinced it is necessary however..

Other wise... I am very immpressed with both handheld devices... but my moneys going for the PSP</span>

alamgir · 05-27-2005, 11:45 AM

Yes, I have a router and enjoy that secret browser in wipeout, I found a website where you can instant message other psp users and all. Firmware updates are something to look forward to as you'll always be able to update your psp even without a router using its usb connection. The Nintendo DS can't have updates.

Hadokenman · 05-27-2005, 12:32 PM

I know that some people have said that it might not be worth it to buy a game for the PSP for 50+ dollars just to be able to get the same game on a console for less, but I think its a good idea. The DS doesn't have hardcore games on it, but I don't think it was really meant for that. Tony Hawks Underground 2 for the PSP actually has more features than the console version according to GameInformer, and I would rather have more indepth games such as Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Acid, and Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition than some of the games that DS has out, even if more might be on the way. Despite some of the things DS has going for it, my vote is going to be on the PSP.

alamgir · 05-27-2005, 01:00 PM

[color=#000000]Yeah and its not like all are remakes.in fact there are very few that are. Differnet variations of the PS2's games have been put on the PSP and totally new ones alike, not remakes. On the other hand the DS has remakes too, in fact more probably. I just find the games list of the psp more appealing, and judging by their review scores they do look better than the DS's.

The price isn't really that much extra than the DS games, well not that much here anyway. I only pay

Dan Hibiki · 05-27-2005, 08:42 PM

The price of games is a whole 66% more than the DS's first party and lower-priced games, and 25% more than the most expensive DS games. They are considerably more expensive.

When are you going to analyze my games list like I did yours?

alamgir · 05-28-2005, 02:09 AM

I won't actually. Because at the end of the day the only way to see if they'll be big hits is to wait and see what happens when they come out. Surely we should be arguing with information we have now? Like the console capabilites, current games etc.

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05-26-2005, 06:11 PM	#11
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Well as i mentionned... i haven't played the PSP but i did see it in action. both consoles are fine the way they are, even though the DS isn't strong spec wise. it still do not need that much power to run a good FPS game ! tell me compared to the PSP.which console is better for which kind of games. a good example is this one... PSP could be better for fighting games or platform games. but the DS is way better for FPS for it has the mean for the mouselike action. and that is the thing FPS were always all about. in all honesty... i'm with DAN HIBIKI on this one. the PSP lacks a few features for certain type of games. as for the all in 1 things... well again i'm with DAN HIBIKI on this one. thing is HANDHELDS are made for the sole purpose of playing games during a trip. and SONY seems to start thinking that CONSOLES and PORTABLE COMPUTERS are the very same thing when its actually not. if you can afford buying games at 50+ dollars and buy the handheld at 100+ dollars then by all means go fetch yourself a portable computer. believe me it would do you way more goods. in my view, a console is made for games... back then i didn't expect my SNES or my GENESIS to do me the dinner ! same goes for handheld, at least one company didn't forget that the lower the cost the faster you'll sell ! by having a lot less componnent the DS can truly be sold at a higher rate for it truly won't be cost that much. thought nintendo were always ont he cash side, i really thin the DS is the handheld for gameplay while the PSP seems to like doing something else then gaming ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

05-26-2005, 11:45 PM	#12
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05-27-2005, 06:26 AM	#13
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	mouse like effect... the nintendo DS uses the bottom screen to show the map in FPS but that screen also is used for a mouse like effect, use either you finger or the pen to actually control the target on the screen ! thus creating a mouse like effect which ables the users to actually AIM and moves at the same time ! double clicking the screen also does something. truly between the DS and the PSP, the DS was thought to be an FPS designed Handheld. cause FPS games are what people askes for these days ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

05-27-2005, 08:26 AM	#14
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Hold on a sec, so the bottom screen is used as a map and a screen where you control the aim of your gun/weapon? I don't quite get that. And fps's are where the psp can make use of its analog stick as well as its graphics. Edited By alamgir on 1117207764 __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

05-27-2005, 10:13 AM	#15
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05-27-2005, 11:45 AM	#16
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Yes, I have a router and enjoy that secret browser in wipeout, I found a website where you can instant message other psp users and all. Firmware updates are something to look forward to as you'll always be able to update your psp even without a router using its usb connection. The Nintendo DS can't have updates. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

05-27-2005, 12:32 PM	#17
Hadokenman Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 367 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I know that some people have said that it might not be worth it to buy a game for the PSP for 50+ dollars just to be able to get the same game on a console for less, but I think its a good idea. The DS doesn't have hardcore games on it, but I don't think it was really meant for that. Tony Hawks Underground 2 for the PSP actually has more features than the console version according to GameInformer, and I would rather have more indepth games such as Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Acid, and Midnight Club 3: Dub Edition than some of the games that DS has out, even if more might be on the way. Despite some of the things DS has going for it, my vote is going to be on the PSP. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/Hadokenman/hadokenmanflame.gif[/img:sig_uid]

05-27-2005, 01:00 PM	#18
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[color=#000000]Yeah and its not like all are remakes.in fact there are very few that are. Differnet variations of the PS2's games have been put on the PSP and totally new ones alike, not remakes. On the other hand the DS has remakes too, in fact more probably. I just find the games list of the psp more appealing, and judging by their review scores they do look better than the DS's. The price isn't really that much extra than the DS games, well not that much here anyway. I only pay __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

05-27-2005, 08:42 PM	#19
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	The price of games is a whole 66% more than the DS's first party and lower-priced games, and 25% more than the most expensive DS games. They are considerably more expensive. When are you going to analyze my games list like I did yours? __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

05-28-2005, 02:09 AM	#20
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I won't actually. Because at the end of the day the only way to see if they'll be big hits is to wait and see what happens when they come out. Surely we should be arguing with information we have now? Like the console capabilites, current games etc. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?