Groove point system - The best way for the high scores to be

Dan Hibiki · 01-02-2002, 12:35 PM

In SFIII: 3rd Strike and in CvSNK2, rather than having the old scoring method based on hits, combos, and bonuses of that nature, those two games use Groove points. Groove points are earned by performance. The best way to describe how to gain/lose points is:

Gain

Use a variety of attacks
Connect with your attacks
Complete combos
Perfect bonus

Lose

Use very few different attacks
Your attacks are blocked
You are hit by the opponent
You idle

The scores are also very low compared to other arcade games. If you do well in a single round, you may have up to 135.000 or 150.000 points. Those are decimal places, not commas.

What if the high scores were determined by the sum of all the Groove points a person gets over all of his/her battles. This may be hard to do, but at least people can't say that no-talent losers get to be in the top 5.

Selvin · 01-02-2002, 12:55 PM

Screw the ppoints. Just make it the grade system.

Dan Hibiki · 01-02-2002, 01:25 PM

That'd require more work from TMyApp. There's a better chance of getting the Groove point system passed, seeing as he doesn't need to make the program analyze how well you did in the fights.

supersayian2 · 01-02-2002, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Quote: from Selvin on 3:55 pm on Jan. 2, 2002
Screw the ppoints. Just make it the grade system.

Right on Selvin

Kahnol · 01-02-2002, 04:56 PM

Groove points sound like a great idea! Of course, you'd need to put in other factors too, like how much life you have at the end of a match, and such. I'd think of more, but some are theoratically impossible, like taking points from people who spam, etc.

Dan Hibiki · 01-02-2002, 05:29 PM

Life bonuses are given to the player at the end of each round (both a vitality remainder and perfect, if need be).

Token · 01-02-2002, 07:22 PM

bad idea, until lag is next to nothing. and...150.000 per round is horrible, with sagat, or orochi iori i get like 300, or 200.00 a round...like, 2000.000 after the boss battle...

DX Zero · 01-02-2002, 08:28 PM

THIS is a bad idea, considering some newbies dont know their buttons u can get lots of points off them...

Kahnol · 01-05-2002, 01:44 PM

So? You can also get a lot of points by beating newbies, and people do that anyway! With the Groove system, players would actually be required to use a variety of attacks, so if you insist on backing someone up into the corner and constantly using Berserker Barrage or Lightning Kick on them, you would do rather poorly. And since I think corner rape is a lousy tactic to begin with, I wouldn't be against that.

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01-02-2002, 12:35 PM	#1
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	In SFIII: 3rd Strike and in CvSNK2, rather than having the old scoring method based on hits, combos, and bonuses of that nature, those two games use Groove points. Groove points are earned by performance. The best way to describe how to gain/lose points is: Gain Use a variety of attacks Connect with your attacks Complete combos Perfect bonus Lose Use very few different attacks Your attacks are blocked You are hit by the opponent You idle The scores are also very low compared to other arcade games. If you do well in a single round, you may have up to 135.000 or 150.000 points. Those are decimal places, not commas. What if the high scores were determined by the sum of all the Groove points a person gets over all of his/her battles. This may be hard to do, but at least people can't say that no-talent losers get to be in the top 5. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

01-02-2002, 12:55 PM	#2
Selvin Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,349 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Screw the ppoints. Just make it the grade system. __________________ http://free.7host02.com/astro75/signatureSelvin2.gif

01-02-2002, 01:25 PM	#3
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	That'd require more work from TMyApp. There's a better chance of getting the Groove point system passed, seeing as he doesn't need to make the program analyze how well you did in the fights. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

01-02-2002, 04:56 PM	#5
Kahnol Member New Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 51 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Groove points sound like a great idea! Of course, you'd need to put in other factors too, like how much life you have at the end of a match, and such. I'd think of more, but some are theoratically impossible, like taking points from people who spam, etc.

01-02-2002, 05:29 PM	#6
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Life bonuses are given to the player at the end of each round (both a vitality remainder and perfect, if need be). __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

01-02-2002, 07:22 PM	#7
Token Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Your house Posts: 383 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	bad idea, until lag is next to nothing. and...150.000 per round is horrible, with sagat, or orochi iori i get like 300, or 200.00 a round...like, 2000.000 after the boss battle...

01-02-2002, 08:28 PM	#8
DX Zero Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 2,139 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	THIS is a bad idea, considering some newbies dont know their buttons u can get lots of points off them... __________________ DX was here.

01-05-2002, 01:44 PM	#9
Kahnol Member New Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 51 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	So? You can also get a lot of points by beating newbies, and people do that anyway! With the Groove system, players would actually be required to use a variety of attacks, so if you insist on backing someone up into the corner and constantly using Berserker Barrage or Lightning Kick on them, you would do rather poorly. And since I think corner rape is a lousy tactic to begin with, I wouldn't be against that.