Why ken?

[Aekon]

I'm a huge SF fan and of all the guys to add, why Ken and Shadow lady? I know they were probably the easiest to add, but c'mon, what about Charlie, or Gambit? Why not just make the Ryu thats in marve| vs Capcom, ya know, the one who can change into akuma or ken. Then we could get more different characters instead ofupgrades of the original.

[king_of_ken]

first of all never diss ken cause ken owns allhttp://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif and to bad u was not around to know ken was number 2 in chacather votes. and 3th i don think tmy is going to add any more marve| characthers because of a problem he had that almost shut this game down for good so tmy will replace the marve| ppl with street fighters

[chicken_wing]

[color=brown]Yes what kok said.

But if cant understand what he was saying cuz of that big ol sentence.Kok wrote that Ken was 3rd at every pole.Not only that Ken would of been easy to make.Also alot of ppl complained why didnt TMyApp add ken to the game so he finally did.

If Your wondering why TMyApp put shadow lady in was because it wouldnt be fair if all the characters cept wolver

[Orlando0]

Cause Ken was easy to make.

Geesh, so what if the shotos are almost copies, the're different strategies in them.

As for marve|. Unlikely, marve| themselves told TyMyApp to remove their characters. Eventually Wolvie, Cyke and Spidey will be replaced. Sent will stay cause accordingly his sprite is Capcom's or something.



Edited By Orlando0 on April 07 2004 at 12:39

[king_of_ken]

well it was my idea of tmy adding shadow ladyat firsthttp://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gifbut any way main reason he put her there is because we been asking for her a long time ago, well i have i dont know about u guys...http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin2.gif

[TMyApp]

kids :biggrin:

dont' worry... the polls will reopen soon enough... and ya'all can vote on the next shoto clone.. err.. "new character" you all want :biggrin:

[Angel-Eyes]

shoto clone
nnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[SSJDan]

kids :biggrin:

dont' worry... the polls will reopen soon enough... and ya'all can vote on the next shoto clone.. err.. "new character" you all want :biggrin:
lol

can anyone say dan hibiki :alien:

[Orlando0]

Dan is the only shoto left.

...I don't even consider him much of a shoto.

[chicken_wing]

Dan is the only shoto left.

...I don't even consider him much of a shoto.
You know why he aint a shoto cuz he taunt skills are pwnage! :biggrin:

Also Orlando,Dan uses a different fighting style type then Ryu,sakura,Ken etc. etc.. which I forgot,but check X force
It sure to be there.

Hopefully, either Dan or charlie will win the polls this year.

Go Dan -n- Charlie *woot*



Edited By chicken_wing on April 07 2004 at 17:13

[VampireNinja]

Dan preety nuch doesn't noe how to fight =/

[(DJ-Eric)]

shoto clone
nnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooooooo
lol be gratefuly your getting something atleast am really just interisted in story mode its cool :biggrin:

[RapMix13]

what?

[RapMix13]

ken is cool

[RapMix13]

i like ken

[RapMix13]

but akuma is better



Edited By RapMix13 on April 07 2004 at 18:50

[Resident Evil]

bunmi^ lol he reminds me of him lol....
anyways u guys should be asking yourself WHY NOT?

[Gambiit]

I'm a huge SF fan and of all the guys to add, why Ken and Shadow lady? I know they were probably the easiest to add, but c'mon, what about Charlie, or Gambit? Why not just make the Ryu thats in marve| vs Capcom, ya know, the one who can change into akuma or ken. Then we could get more different characters instead ofupgrades of the original.
Ken is fancy but not as fancy as gambit nuff said ^_^

[blanka09]

bunmi^ lol he reminds me of him lol....
anyways u guys should be asking yourself WHY NOT?
It's his clone.. I have no doubt!! :biggrin:

[EvilAkuma]

Let me make this clear. Why Ken?
1) NO more marve| Character
2) Ken was in 2nd place when they voted
3) TmyApp work on it hard to make KEN fan Happy :biggrin:
4) He made ken attack tight as HELL (good job TMyApp)
THere more and all u can say is WHY Ken u should be asshamed to ur self for posting this in the first place :angry:

[azncat]

why not just wait until the next update?
then you can add "gambit" and "charlie"

[(ShinKu_Ryu)]

Well Ken owns.....So does Ryu :angryfire: But Charlie owns everyone eles ???

[SSJKarma]

well, isn't it obvious guys !

KEN = the only character that will never embrasse the evil within !
the only character that even tho he wants something that bad, he'll never turn evil whatever the cause ! the only one in this case that could bring back the light and get rid of evil, and that was prooved in his ending in story mode !

that is why, ken was made !
this is so obvious !

as for other shoto's...
well no... SAKURA and DAN are still availlable !
****** VOTE DAN HIBIKI ******

as for ken always being int he poll as well as gambit did... well no, when spidey won ken and gambit were no where near the 1,2 and 3 places !

there was...
sp

[blanka09]

NO SSJKarma.. I've discussed this with TMyApp.. and Ken does embrace the rage.. or evil.. or whatever you wanna call it.. If he didn't, why is there dark ken? The purpose of Ken's coming was initially to remove or defeat the one that brought the evil... ie Ryu or Akuma (can't say for sure) .. but if you play the story mode, you'll realise that Ken does embrace the rage just before the final fight with Ryu.. and thus his alter ego Dark ken :biggrin:

[LEESTAR77]

go to nosouls web site and past news...here are the poll results when akuma came along! and i qoute:

Site News
Who's next!

and the next character is...
oh.. OH ... we didn't see this one coming .. *sarcasm*...

well.. here are the results.. so YOU can decide


Blackheart: 105
Captain America: 51
Collosus: 92
Gambit: 395
Hulk: 33
Iceman: 1
Iron Man: 1
Juggernaut: 2
Magneto: 3
Omega Red: 36
Psycloke: 12
Sentinel (revised): 8
Silver Samurai: 46
Spiral: 4
Storm: 68
Shuma Gorath: 2
Sabretooth: 23
Rogue: 48
Venom: 73
War Machine: 58
Akuma: 434
Cammy: 88
Charlie: 19
Ken: 426
Zangief: 84
Dhalsim: 26
M. Bison: 39
Dan: 14
Sakura: 77
Dr. Doom: 101
Thanos: 172
Apocalypse: 326

Total: 4554
Fake Votes: 1312


... and ifu'r not good with numbers, Akuma won, with Ken in 2nd... and Gambit in 3rd...

ken was behind by 8 votes! now that is pretty popular!

this also shows gambit could be next!!!!

not many on charlie or dan....no!! charlie rules!

oh and what's this? remove spidey and wolver

[Elena]

Karma, blanka's right you know...that is y all the vips have dark ken...and is there another kind of Ken...because i remember one with a tan who looks really evil but they might be the same person.

Anyways, I'm glad Tmy got this over with because vote can now not be wasted on a clone street fighter....now I really don't care who we get next...If we got Dan then the taunts would be a... :thumbsup: if we got Sakura the taunts would also be good...

Anyways, topic starter I hope you got your answer. That ken was chosen because...
1. Ppl wanted him
2. He was so close to Ryu and Akuma it would be dumb not to make him
3. To have the 3 main shoto characters
4. Maybe because TMy...didn't want us to waste our vote...

Gambit will never be next...No

[SSJKarma]

leestar: that was only the last poll, i was speaking of the one before that one !
the one with sp

[EvilAkuma]

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]leestar: that was only the last poll, i was speaking of the one before that one !
the one with sp

[EvilAkuma]

as for why the VIPs have him DARK or seomthing... well what would you have wanted us to have ?
the same old ken with just a new move ?
TMyApp knows better then that, so he created VIOLENT KEN ! not EVIL !

call him the way you want, i refuse to think someone like ken could go to the evil side. he really isn't capable of doing it !
First of all he is EvilKen. Dunno y he put DarkKen (maybe he wanted to call it DarkKen) In the story mode. He didn't want to turn Evil. But he didn't had any choice. He had to find a way to help Ryu. So he uses his Darkken to stop him for what he is doing

[da_realX]

[quote:post_uid0="LEESTAR77"]go to nosouls web site and past news...here are the poll results when akuma came along! and i qoute:

Site News
Who's next!

and the next character is...
oh.. OH ... we didn't see this one coming .. *sarcasm*...

well.. here are the results.. so YOU can decide


Blackheart: 105
Captain America: 51
Collosus: 92
Gambit: 395
Hulk: 33
Iceman: 1
Iron Man: 1
Juggernaut: 2
Magneto: 3
Omega Red: 36
Psycloke: 12
Sentinel (revised): 8
Silver Samurai: 46
Spiral: 4
Storm: 68
Shuma Gorath: 2
Sabretooth: 23
Rogue: 48
Venom: 73
War Machine: 58
Akuma: 434
Cammy: 88
Charlie: 19
Ken: 426
Zangief: 84
Dhalsim: 26
M. Bison: 39
Dan: 14
Sakura: 77
Dr. Doom: 101
Thanos: 172
Apocalypse: 326

Total: 4554
Fake Votes: 1312


... and ifu'r not good with numbers, Akuma won, with Ken in 2nd... and Gambit in 3rd...

ken was behind by 8 votes! now that is pretty popular!

this also shows gambit could be next!!!!

not many on charlie or dan....no!! charlie rules!

oh and what's this? remove spidey and wolver

[Elena]

SORRY FOR THE CAPS, BUT PPL DON'T SEEM TO BE GETTING THIS THROUGH THEIR HEADS....[b]THERE WILL BE NO MORE

[SSJKarma]

Why would i ban you da vipa ?
seriously, competition is great, but you know that gambit will fall before the almighty SUPER TAUNT just like the rest ! :colgate:

[blanka09]

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]leestar: that was only the last poll, i was speaking of the one before that one !
the one with sp

[LEESTAR77]

spider-man was added just like ken as an update not from a charactor poll!

past new spider-man update with new version qoute:
Site News
Next version coming soon!

When ?? Where ?? HOW ??!!
(Thats what u'r prob all thinking.. right ?? ) Well.. maybe not.. but.. in any case.. here is what u can expect in the next update:


-a lot more bugs !! (what kinda' person would i be if i didn't include this ?? eh ??)
-a bit less bugs
-chars tweaked (did someone say cyc|ops/Chun-Li/Logan ?? well.. MAYBE)
-chat filter fixed
-helper bugs fixed
-practice mode ai tweaked (less blocking)
-sp

[da_realX]

elena..keep ur comments on hand..we are not sure about whatever may happen, it is tmy making the game and not u, therefore u are NO ALMIGHTY AUTHORITYAND CANNOT REALLY BE PAYED ATTENTION TO
also, the future will unfold whatever is to happen...plus i have a quote from tmy that completely defies ur entire post to back me up... :biggrin: long live the biggrin! :laughlong:

[Elena]

[quote:post_uid8="da_realX"]elena..keep ur comments on hand..we are not sure about whatever may happen, it is tmy making the game and not u, therefore u are [b:post_uid8]NO ALMIGHTY AUTHORITYAND CANNOT REALLY BE PAYED ATTENTION TO[/b:post_uid8]
also, the future will unfold whatever is to happen...plus i have a quote from tmy that completely defies ur entire post to back me up... :biggrin: long live the biggrin! :laughlong:[/quote:post_uid8]
What I am saying is not a comment. It is fact. You were probably not here when Tmyapp had to close this game down because marve| threaten to sue TMyApp if he did not. So for a couple of months there was no game, (well there was but no one could really play it). So in a couple of months TMyApp made a topic called "Dreams don't die" (which i can't seem to find) Stating that StreetFighterOnline will come out. And that on the next POLL there will be no more

[blanka09]

*cough* Whoa.. you guys should keep calm here.. :biggrin:

Now I know it's a fact Elena.. and there probably wouldn't be any further development on stuff relating to marve| products.. but you've gotta understand that we're not the ones controlling the future of the game.. and if in fact.. (though bleek) he decides to create something else.. or wakes up says.. you know what, I'm tired of all the bitching and fix this and fix that and pulls the plug, we've got no say! So whatever he does.. we can't say.. marve| tomorrow?? No one knows :biggrin:



Edited By blanka09 on April 14 2004 at 17:37

[vx_unicom]

Vote for Charlie people...

[alamgir]

[quote:post_uid0="LEESTAR77"]spider-man was added just like ken as an update not from a charactor poll!

past new spider-man update with new version qoute:
Site News
Next version coming soon!

When ?? Where ?? HOW ??!!
(Thats what u'r prob all thinking.. right ?? ) Well.. maybe not.. but.. in any case.. here is what u can expect in the next update:


-a lot more bugs !! (what kinda' person would i be if i didn't include this ?? eh ??)
-a bit less bugs
-chars tweaked (did someone say cyc|ops/Chun-Li/Logan ?? well.. MAYBE)
-chat filter fixed
-helper bugs fixed
-practice mode ai tweaked (less blocking)
-sp

[SSJKarma]

sp

[Roll]

Before we continue, I'd just like to point out to you that there is no such thing as a "Dark" or "Evil" Ken. The character shown in the CvS series isn't either of them either. Tmy just spiced up normal lil Ken to make him... um... not so light. Keep in mind, all of you hardcore Ken fans, that Ken will never be able to actually head into the darkness (or into the Satsui no Hadou). The story Tmy placed into his game is his own, just as this forgery (mirror, if you must) of Ken is.

Now to go onto singular point outs! ^-^
Blanka: First, let's start with you. ^_^
Blanka, it is not your place to decide or interpret what Elena knows and understands. From what I can tell, she seems to have a higher level ofunderstanding of the situation than most people here, including you and me. Besides, you cannot say anymore than her or anyone else on the matter; therefore you have no right to talk down to her like that. For that matter, it's not like you to even try.

Karma:
Ken is not like Gen at all. He's almost totally Gens opposite. However, Ken just simply doesn't care enough to go "evil". He's lazy, almost totally self-centered, doesn't trust very easily (but isn't paranoid), is rich, and is married with one child. He is also training a person who is almost completely worthless as a fighter (Sean; sorry to all of his fans, but this is true. He's weaker than Dan). Explains a lot about his future, huh?

Da Real: To be perfectly honest, I really didn't pay much attention to you either in this matter. It's kind of funny how the world spins everything around in circles, right? I'm just saying; though, if you would like, you may ignore this post in order to continue your smiles in this fatigued world. Not much else allows for it anyway.

[blanka09]

whoa whoa whoa.. slow down.. I did not talk down on Elena..
What I said was that none ofus has any idea what the plans of the future for the game would be. I regard the hypothesis of someone having a better understanding about something and someone of which and whom we have no idea of as being fallacy: why? Simple. None ofus knew of the game's death.. until it happened and none of knew of TMyApp's future plans to resurrect it as SFO and thus no one .. with the exception of the mods and admins can actually tell if there'll be further developments of marve| related stuff in the game. I can't come to any certain conclusions.. and neither can Elena or any other "norm" so to say in this forum.. All we can do is speculate. :biggrin:

However, common sense would tell that TMyApp would not add anything marve| related to the game again.. but then again, we are not TMyApp.. or are we?? :biggrin:

[Elena]

Blanka: First, let's start with you. ^_^
Blanka, it is not your place to decide or interpret what Elena knows and understands. From what I can tell, she seems to have a higher level ofunderstanding of the situation than most people here, including you and me. Besides, you cannot say anymore than her or anyone else on the matter; therefore you have no right to talk down to her like that. For that matter, it's not like you to even try.
Well, damn Roll. Thx for defending me...
But, I think what Blanka was trying to tell me was that we don't know what will happen in the future. So we won't know what marve| might do a week from now...they might turn around and tell TmyApp that he can continue making marve| Characters. Blanka did not talk down to me in anyway....which is a different story about DaRealX who acted as if my words meant nothing to him or others, which lead to harsh words which, I would like to aplogize about. Sorry!!
Hmm, I might need Anger Mangement...

Let me rephrase about what I said 'bout marve| chracters...as of NOW it seems as if there will be no marve| chracters in the poll, because of the legal issue.And

Roll I would like to Thank You again for defending me... :thumbsup:



Edited By Elena on April 14 2004 at 22:43

[da_realX]

hmm...i might need to calm down a bit too... but, i cant remember where it was, but tmy said..somethin bout, a letter wont scare him, hes prepared for whatever, and hed like to see them try..tis all i was saying...in harsher...more aggressive words..and yes elena, i was here for that..i was here way longer than that...way......

[blanka09]

:biggrin:

You don't need anger management.. trust me. It's quite refreshing to let off steam once in a while.. It really helps :biggrin:

[Elena]

hmm...i might need to calm down a bit too... but, i cant remember where it was, but tmy said..somethin bout, a letter wont scare him, hes prepared for whatever, and hed like to see them try..tis all i was saying...in harsher...more aggressive words..and yes elena, i was here for that..i was here way longer than that...way......
Lol you were bluffing....you don't know where the letter is....you shouldn't bluff...unless it's poker...but that's a different story... ;)

We, I mean I am really kinda going of topic now...

[Roll]

However, Common sense is something that is needed here, isn't it? Common sense can tell us more than we need or want to know, if you can just muster up enough of it to actually use it right and to your advantage.

[SSJKarma]

roll, i guess you don't know KEN that much by what you are saying !

example...
you say he is too lazy to go into evil...
but then again, i never saw someone that caring about fighting and friendship then he does ! he is lazy, but as soon as it comes to his friends, or family... he canmot be more into it then that ! so by definition your explanation doesn't work !

also... he got a family and he knows that fighting is his way of protecting those he loves, friends and family ! so he has a pretty damn precise idea of what becoming evil would get him, and that he doesn't want to ! that's why he will never turn evil. but, you might say that in a fight, he fights like he was the devil and gives no chance whatsoever to evil doers !

same goes for GEN, he fights agianst EVIL without giving them any chances. same goes for dhalsim when he fights !

see my points...
again, KEN is lazy when not engaged in a fight, but once he is locked in for the kill, he gives it everything he got and is no longer lazy and go all out on his enemies !

[SBYRD5]

Odd originally Ken was stronger than Ryu.

Then he stopped training because of him having a family then you surpassed him...then he started training again.....



Edited By SBYRD5 on April 15 2004 at 19:31

[Roll]

Karma, I know more about Ken than you would ever wish to know. It's not something to be proud of, but I do know what I am talking about.
He is lazy; just because his friends and family are high points of motivation for him, does not mean he is not lazy. He doesn't have much sense about what the Satsui no Hadou really is; except for the fact that giving into it could (and most likely will) devour your mind and soul. Yet, that doesn't matter. His family does not matter either. In order to give into the Satsui no Hadou, you need to give in to the will to be the strongest, the best fighter in the world; you need to want to get constantly stronger, no matter what you need to do to get there. Ken doesn't take the time to do that, and I guess you could blame his lifestyle for that (him being rich and all..). I'd rather not pin the blame on his living pattern, and call him lazy; since it's not like he couldn't just drop a lot of the things and still try to become the strongest.

That's what Ryu did; he dropped everything in life (except essential things, obviously) to become the best at what he did. Because of that, he has the biggest potential to dive into the "darkness" between the two fighters.
As far as Sakura and Dan go; well, Dan's sort of too busy trying to beefup his popularity, while Sakura has more than enough potential because of her teenage spirit and her high desires to be able to at least follow what Ryu's doing.

And Sbyrd, Ken was never really stronger than Ryu. Ken even got a different colored gi because of Ryu being better than him, and he wanted to be noticed. Oh, and did you know Ken's not a natural Blonde either?

[SSJKarma]

i prey for those who say they know much more then i do when i already know much of the games themselves... which other then in the game, they never spoke of any hair color, no blood type and other things like that !

and by the way, ken as a big big motive and its to be stronger then ryu, but will never get into the sui something ! because he is more controlled then RYU is... at least KEN compared to ryu knows way more about life then RYU does ! that's what makes him be the good guy he is. and that's also why ryu keeps fighting, cause he searches a way to acknoledge his life while KEN already found that !

now, give me for one a place whre you get to know that much about characters only found in games which doesn't make any real scene about their life !

[Roll]

Karma, if you knew anything at all, you would know that the games show things very badly. The only games you could really trust, are the Japanese versions, and even those won't give you much detail. But if you must know, interviews with capcom and official statements, etc. can all be found in old Capcom Magazines, and a book "All about Capcom" as well. Good luck finding them, though. Also, Karma, the knowledge I've gained over this story would tear what you think you know to bits and pieces that would flow continuously on an ocean breeze until it simply disappeared into inexistance. Please do not test it.

[Twan]

Hmmm I sure did find out alot of worthless info about ken and etc etckinda like when i talk to my shorty's and they tell me about birthdays and periods(around the week when they start and end).


Is that much knowledge about fictional characters healthy?

Wheres the time for outside and Ladies?(or men if your a female)

[LEESTAR77]

i am too simple minded these days...
"let's play the game and use that guy/gal there" is what i now think.......
oh and by the way i do own "all about capcom" book and several of their comics.....they used to belong to my old GF but she has little use of them now......
enough...let me play the game...it's a game...let me recreate what i want to think....be it true or fictional.
an "opinion" if you will.

[gouki2008]

gambit its cool next chacter is gambitiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii royal flush