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01-11-2004, 08:59 PM
Rant on anything... and I guess since I'm starting it, I'll go first...

Runescape... I've said a little about it before, but now is time for the real beat down of why I h8te this game :biggrin:

When you first begin runescape, you start out on this gay "tutorial" island that will teach you everything you could possibly need to know... and more.. it takes 30 minutes to explain a 2 minute game. You can literally learn everything there is to know about this game in 2 minutes as long as you understand that everything is driven by leveling up and using x item plus y item = z item.

While a lot of people argue that there's a "varity" of skills, this is not true. What these are are skills duplicated with different items given for each. They are each, in themselves, a joke.

Woodcutting: Why is this even a skill? All you do is click on a tree and chop it down. At a tie for the most useless and stupid skill in the game with fire making. Are there not other wooden objects in this game? How about having woodcutting as an ability to say hack your way into a hut? or maybe to break someone's wooden shield? No such luck.

Fire Making: Again, stupid and gay... all you can do here is set wood on fire... that's the grand finally of it. You gain experience based on 1 factor... which is quantity of wood burned (1 each time). It is not deserving to be a skill at all. Now, if you actually had the ability to set OTHER things on fire.. like houses, monsters, dungens, etc... use your imaginations, then that "might" be a worthy skill.

Ranged: With the bow or crossbow... all you do here is shoot stuff. There's no trick to it... no ability to aim "over" object (ie: like with a longbow), or ability to shoot through things (ie: like with a crossbow)... just standard check to see if within range and point to point attack.

Fishing: You can catch fish... wow.. now all I need is a boat and a fish master 2000, and I'm all set!!! No wait... they don't lend you boats in this game either. This skill is about equivilant to mining except you're catching food not ores (a slightly different 2d graphic and bit number). The only difference is fish don't dissapear when you catch them.

Mining: You mine for ores... which is, the extent of it with an occasional chance to get a gem. The same as fishing except your ores dissapear for a moment or long time after you get them, which can make it very annoying and time consuming.

Smithing: Now here's a useful ability, right?? Afterall, who needs to pay for their weapons when you can just make them, right?? Oh wait... you god-knows-how-many lumps of coal to smelt enough ore just to gain levels (think up in the thousands). And even better... you can't stack coal, despite how desperate the creators of this game want you to use it. Another waste of your time skill with no real purpose but to annoy.

Cooking: Ah yes... food will make everything better! With enough, you can restore your health. And better yet, we'll make this just like the smithing and crafting skill, and make it so that you have to run around trying to find 3 or 4 non-stackable ingredients just to make 1 cooking thing for 100 experience points when you need 300,000 just to go up 1 level.

Crafting: The all time useless and most annoying skill. Everyone gives up on it (except for the 1 person in all runescape who has lv 99 crafting). The "best" way to get experience in crafting is by crafting with silver... which is again, unstackable, and since you can only carry a max of 30 of them, and each only gives you 50 exp, and when you get into the "high" levels with 30-300K+ of exp. needed to gain levels.. it becomes mindless repetition of boredom.

Magic: Click on spell... click on enemy. My oh my... can they invent some crazy ideas for magic. Of all things... you can teleport to cities... attack your enemies... grab things that they've intentionally put out of your reach so that the only way to get them is to use magic... and "enchant" amulets... turn 1 item into gold... smelt 1 ore... and that's about it. Regaurless of how simple it would be to make magic something that could actually "do" things for you (like auto-cut trees, create fires, create an item out of nothing, teleoport your enemy somewhere else, etc.).. they do none of that, and yet it's such an easy and "useful" thing to do.

Prayer: Not even worth mentioning. All I'll say is that if burrying bones is the best idea they can come up with for gaining levels... then they need to take their brains back because apparently they've picked up defective rentals.

Fighting, and all of its skills: One of the worst aspects of the game... fights are like lightning fast pong rounds where your spacer is at a size determined by your experience and armor/weapon. After you get around level 50... as with anything else, you notice your level just... stops going up. Which would probably be because as the monsters do get stronger, they give you poop in return for experience. Take a hint from the REAL role playing games out there... as you get stonger, experience gained should also get MUCH larger. Fighting, in itself, is lame, and a waste of time, and relies on pre-determined numbers.. as everything.

Runescape itself is a world of numbers.. everything is based on probability, thus solidly eliminating the ability to "think" and actually "do" things that might be worthy of a real role playing game... ah flip it.. this is going nowhere... I'll rant on this when I'm thinking more clearly...

SSJKarma
01-11-2004, 10:49 PM
well, i must say that i played runescape for such a while, but it actually took me 10 days to understand how this agme was BS as hell !

1 - nobody helps nobody, you stay there asking for help but none ever stop to help you. those that does, just use you without even getting it back to you. you tell them to help you first but no they just go away if its not you who help them so they can advance and not you !

2 - the missions, dear god, i like the story called ROMEO and JULIET, but how stupid is this in a MMORPG world ? and again, ya need to DONATE (yeah right, donate... i rather say pay to unlock 75% of the game itself. yeah right, donate)

3 - yeah the abilities are a joke, never know why cooking seems so important to others, been looking at people cooking all day long ! same for amny other abilities ! HELLLLLLO, the fun factor is playing missions all together, not working all day long !

4 - the fighting system, have you even noticed how placing the things on any of the 3 style of fight seems to do completely no difference at all ? i did ! reguardless and even tho i was low level, the system should be making a difference which is not really doing anything ! have also notice how it is so damn easy to escape from a fight, once engaged and that the first hit has pass, you can go away again. have you ever tryed fighting those stupid imps ? i did, passed my whole time running after them. when i catched them, 1 hit, i missed they start running again !

CAN WE JUST FINISH A flipING FIGHT FOR ONCE WITHOUT HAVING TO RUN AFTER THEM FOR 30 MINUTES IN A ROW !!!!!!!!!!!!!


enough for runescape !
ranting about TMYAPP now...

*BREATH LONG ENOUGH*
Nothing to say about him, pretty great job he did there !

got ya people

one last thing...
the thing that i find worst then a game with no story, no fun factor, no playability, is... people that brag without having anything to back themselves up. many people told me that i was too humble for my good, always saying i am weaker then i am but actually fighting back, at least my opponent gets to see my real potential. but those that talk trash and all they can do is hadoken, or optic blast or even berserker claw all day long, men, find your self a few faqs and tutorial about how to use characters, maybe you'll learn something for a change !

even worst are the people that brag about the game itself bragging about how it could be way better if they would have done it. problem is, you ask them any questio about programming and no, they just don't know anything about it ! or those who say a fighting game is easy if you use mugen, well guess what, premade engines means nothing !

yeah mugen was fun for a while, but no games that were coming out of there really were worth the 100+ megs of download it took me hours and hours to download all that to get some BS made by a #### who just took charcaters at random and place them in the right folder ! to you all, let me tell you this...

wow such a great programmer, where did yopu get the idea's, better, is your mother a fliping moron ?

Try and answer to that you twirps !

01-12-2004, 08:56 AM
Continuation of Rune-Rant...

Ok... aside from all of the skills being useless, there's a couple of other reasons why I hate them.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/online/game/12981.html

Take a look at the level ups.. and compare them to how much experience you gain per thing. If you do some math, you can get one skill, say mining, and get up to making 17K of experience... which would be great if you're starting out, but when you get up around level 80 (almost enough to mine runite), it starts to mean nothing, and it becomes a sad reflection of real-life minimum wage jobs :biggrin:

Take it from games like Wild Arms and Final Fantasy... when you need a LOT more experience to gain levels, you need monsters/skill builders that are a LOT tougher and yet give a LOT in return. Once your probability gets high enough in any skill... it becomes a waste of time to fight tougher monsters or fish for harder to catch fish or cook more difficult stuff... you can try it and gain maybe a tenth the experience in ten minutes. Utterly pathetic.

And then there's the little fact that they're recycled skills. Every one the same... mine a stronger ore = lower probability of getting it = gain experience a lot slower, fish a harder fish = lower probability of getting it = gain experience a lot slower, cook a harder dish = lower probability of cooking it = gain experience a lot slower... etc.

And let us not forget the Quests... the beyond sad quests. Making balls of string for some farmer dude? gathering food supplies for some chef dude? in fact... almost all of the quests involve running off and finding some common/stupid items to give to someone else so that they'll give you some other item to combine with a few other items to give you a map. Why does this feel like I'm still in the tutorial?... and why does it remind me of Shen Mue? (reading signs for grandma, feeding kittens for children, catching balls for kids, buying a drink for some dude, fighting school girls because they're a "bad influence" on you friends daughter.. etc.).

Anyways... there's a lot of other stuff I'd love to rant on for days/weeks about Runescape, but I'll just lightly mention a few at this point.
-Not being able to fight other players, except in 1 part where you can fight EVERYONE and EVERYONE can fight you, which is particularly annoying since if you don't have some "buddies," you can get ganged up on easily no matter what rank, and if you're low ranked, well... you're screwed everywhere. And it would make so much more sense if you could only fight people your levels closer to "safty" and as you get farther from civilization.. or whatever, you could start fighting levels further below and above your own rank.
-Retarded economy, making n00bies able to get a quick fortune mining coal for god-knows how many hours. Coals should be stackable!!! This would eliminate that little problem and the ridiculous amounts of trips made to and back from the bank on a daily basis by smithers/miners. But better yet, coal shouldn't even be a factor... just another way the creators are trying to force you to play a lot longer with little/no return. If you do the math, by the time you're ready to mine/smelt runite.. well, you don't have to do math, you just have to have the common sense to see that 100 exp (or maybe it's more? even it it were 200, wouldn't matter) per bar, when you can make a total of about 5 bars per trip to smelting (1 runite, 8 coals... so no.. less :biggrin:), and the fact that you need over 1mil exp, or 1,000,000 exp from 3 bars a smelting trip (300 exp. once you use them), takes way too long.
-Great idea in limiting carrying capacity in BOTH your character AND the bank with no way to change it!! You can't even pick up those "sacks" you see laying around everywhere... which would help TONS for those ofus who still havn't figured out how to stack silver and coal... and a hundred and one quest items just for a piece of a map and a boat trip.

And... that's all the time I have for this kids...

In effect: Runescape, a fine free game, since, it's free, and you can always leave if you h8te it, no one obligates you to play. However, bad pay game.. I don't know why anyone would want to pay for it unless they would rather be clicking on random items than answering phone calls.. or doing, whatever it is, that you're supposed to be doing at work/school :biggrin:

Saijin_Ryu
01-12-2004, 09:22 AM
<span style='font-size:16pt;line-height:100%'>o</span>n the ranting of runescape ill try and voice my opinion, although i only gave the game roughly about an half an hour of my time b4 i got bored out of mind and closed it! I see no real greatness of the game, and who-ever spends more then 4 hours a day playing it should really go outside and get a life. How about playing f7.....again....or maybe a nice game on the "Tamogotchi" anything beats the "poor 3D" game that is Runescape! I still dont understand what it is!
I took the starting tutorials where you have to burn the fish, take it back, burn it again. And then moved onto the mining part (i think) but it was way to sluggish and didnt catch my attention in any way! Umm i cant really rant any further on this, seeing as i cant remember why i disliked it sooo much!

Hmm...Id like to give my next rant up to.... [ Chat room Noobs ]
Ok so i went into SFO to play a few games...as you do, so i entered the chat room, hmm first thing i usually do is take a look up and down the members list to see if there is actually someone online actually worth fighting, then after the quick scan the first thing i usually say is "who wants to fight?" hmm no response. People are talking, but mainly about their "gal" and so-on. So i ask again "who wants to fight?!!" and then sometimes i get a reply, but mainly im just left sitting there, and the thing that really enoys me is that you know their ignoring you, because i ask this question over and over, and then when some1 enters the chat usually followed by (rank: 7) and says "im hosting" most of the people not talking automatically persue him! I mean its madness! these people come onto the game to fight, wait in the chat for about 15 minutes for high ranks to appear, even though they could of had 3 fights in that time, only to play some person that gives then those precious points on the ranking board that are then pointless the day after!!

Im not sure if any of that made sense because its more of a furious personal experience on SFO.

But im not much of a ranter, unless some1 gets a good topic out.

SBYRD5
01-19-2004, 06:11 AM
Ranting I'm reviving this topic...I like this. :buttrock:

ssj_3_goku
01-19-2004, 01:35 PM
RANT RANT GRRRRRR I HATE SPAMMERS, I HATE PEOPLE WHO CYBER, I HATE NOOBZ (some, not all) . I EAT THEM FOR LUNCH :vampv:



nice topic :eh: XD

pip99
01-19-2004, 03:24 PM
Lag and geeks.

ledmonkey
01-19-2004, 03:27 PM
I'm going to rant on........................:















Myself!
I don't play the game enought because I'm not good and I spend too much time on the forum:P

bloodpack
01-19-2004, 03:28 PM
im starting to hate the place where i work
feels like all of them are against me
dunno but somehow i know theyre talking behind my back
f*** bastards, rumor mongerers
if theres any place i could go then i wouldnt waste my time here... :(

pip99
01-19-2004, 03:36 PM
im starting to hate the place where i work
feels like all of them are against me
dunno but somehow i know theyre talking behind my back
f*** bastards, rumor mongerers
if theres any place i could go then i wouldnt waste my time here... :(
Were do yo work?

bloodpack
01-19-2004, 05:11 PM
wanna see me or my office?

very well...your browser needs mpeg4 shm

http://edataservicesinc.net/camera.asp

ssj_3_goku
01-19-2004, 05:18 PM
is that taking place right now? hold your hand up so we can tell which one is you!

01-19-2004, 05:24 PM
i believe its crappy graphics and really hard to make money in the game when ur a begginer but what happends when your a combat 116?

this level 100....messing around with me while i was in training session so i thought of whipping his candy ass 32 29 dead..
http://www.boomspeed.com/tanzeel/1solb88edeldead.jpg

http://www.boomspeed.com/tanzeel/sirblood.jpg
another f00l....level 117..1 combat higher...teaming with all his friends as u can see those people ..dead...and then i made the other ones logg out...


i make around 1million cash in a day...by killing 5-6 people a d ay lol....

i play this game for fighting only

:laughlong:

bloodpack
01-19-2004, 05:33 PM
is that taking place right now? hold your hand up so we can tell which one is you!
yes, youre seeing it live
my company placed a surveillance camera...on us
think were like criminals... :sarcasm:

01-20-2004, 08:44 AM
lol :laughlong: