Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga)

[SBYRD5]

I'm not discussing the sensing of "power levels". I'm making a clear fact wait haven't you seen "Blood Sport". The guy was blinded by the powder and had to use his other senses to defeat his fowe.

Joe, what you just proved to me in that post is that most of the fighters in BZ arn't TRUE Martial Artist but very skilled fighters.

I recall RYU and KEN training with blind folds before,and they fought each other just as good if they had seeing eyes....

[Nantuko Joe]

[quoteost_uid0="SBYRD5"]I'm not discussing the sensing of "power levels". I'm making a clear fact wait haven't you seen "Blood Sport". The guy was blinded by the powder and had to use his other senses to defeat his fowe.

Joe, what you just proved to me in that post is that most of the fighters in BZ arn't TRUE Martial Artist but very skilled fighters.

I recall RYU and KEN training with blind folds before,and they fought each other just as good if they had seeing eyes....[/quote]
Yeah, I have seen bloodsport. And he was pretty much stubling around, with his hands out in front of him. When he defeated his foe, he merely threw the grenade back at him (or something like that). And really, the only other sense you can use in a fight is hearing. If you use the sense of touch to feel your opponent, he's gonna know you're there. And you're definately not gonna use the senses of taste and smell (unless your opponent is a blob of dog ########).

And all of the characters in DBZ are indeed TRUE martial artists. Ever seen the first part? Called "Dragonball"? When Goku was a kid/young adult? That's all they used, martial arts. However, when they finally got to the DBZ area of it, they were so strong and so quick, martial arts wouldn't mean anything when you can pull off a few zanzokens and fly. When you have so much power and speed that you can destroy the world without even trying, and can fly around the earth eight times in 28 minutes, martial arts aren't really needed.

And Ryu and Ken are buttbuddies. They can practically know what each other's about to do before they do it, because they know each other so well. It's like putting Goku and Vegeta with blindfolds against each other: they know each other well enough to know what they're about to do. Blindfold Ryu and make him face Akuma, or someone else, and he'd have a much harder time.

And besides, DBZ characters have the ability to sense ki, and one can fight fairly easily while blind and deaf if they can sense their opponent's ki.

[SBYRD5]

Yea, that is all true,but you don't have to smell like garbage to be smelled.Blood has a smell to it....so does sweat.I suppose Ryu and Ken being butt buddies may be true...*ahem*. I was using them as an example...I suppose it wasn't the best one....

Actually, Joe you just made me think.When the DBZ characters where weaker and used basic martial arts...they didn't sense Ki then correct. They used there other senses....just how the SF fighters would.

Now you said that the DBZ fighters would just do a Solar Flare...then a Distructo Disc and it would be over....For you to make such a statment the DBZ fighters must plan an attack like that.As you said before with all the counter comments against this combination you made....they wouldn't know what the other party has planned for them in battle.....so basicly the DBZ fighters would never start a battle that way....that is truely invalid....they spare with there enemies and feel out there strenghts...

(Besides combinations like that are only used when fighting enemies that are stronger than themselves)

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Joe I find this topic unfair...you said that exploiting Goku's weakness for food is invalid.Just like using Vegeta's Pride against himself......actually with those things to exploit this debate would actually carve more towards SF....

[DA_VIPA]

its really hard to compare sf to dbz when they are almost completely different!! ryu has only his darkside but dat goku guy had like 4/5 transformations ssj1/2/3/4...and ryu only has his fists,kicks and hadouken to fight..where as goku can do a whole load of $hit more...

[KickurassKen]

[quoteost_uid0="DA_VIPA"]its really hard to compare sf to dbz when they are almost completely different!! ryu has only his darkside but dat goku guy had like 4/5 transformations ssj1/2/3/4...and ryu only has his fists,kicks and hadouken to fight..where as goku can do a whole load of $hit more...[/quote]
dbz has to much power to compare to sf dbz will rule in the end. :angry:

[Nantuko Joe]

[quoteost_uid0="SBYRD5"]Yea, that is all true,but you don't have to smell like garbage to be smelled.Blood has a smell to it....so does sweat.I suppose Ryu and Ken being butt buddies may be true...*ahem*. I was using them as an example...I suppose it wasn't the best one....

Actually, Joe you just made me think.When the DBZ characters where weaker and used basic martial arts...they didn't sense Ki then correct. They used there other senses....just how the SF fighters would.

Now you said that the DBZ fighters would just do a Solar Flare...then a Distructo Disc and it would be over....For you to make such a statment the DBZ fighters must plan an attack like that.As you said before with all the counter comments against this combination you made....they wouldn't know what the other party has planned for them in battle.....so basicly the DBZ fighters would never start a battle that way....that is truely invalid....they spare with there enemies and feel out there strenghts...

(Besides combinations like that are only used when fighting enemies that are stronger than themselves)

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Joe I find this topic unfair...you said that exploiting Goku's weakness for food is invalid.Just like using Vegeta's Pride against himself......actually with those things to exploit this debate would actually carve more towards SF....[/quote]
No, in DB, they still used their ability to sense the opponent's ki, because when they're pulling off Zanzokens (after-images) and such, they can't exactly see nor hear where the opponent is going to be next. So no, you're not correct.

If they start a battle off with a Taiyoken, the opposition would be blinded for a few seconds, and knowing Vegeta, he'd just powerup a massive attack just to kill them (IE: Bikubang or Final Flash). Or, Kuririn can hit the Taiyoken, and then use a Kienzan, and that would be HIS plan, totally independent from any other plan they would have. Same thing would go if Tien uses a Shinshin no Ken to create clones, each uses a Taiyoken, and then have each clone use a Shin Kikouhou.

And I never said exploiting Goku's weakness for food would be invalid. Hibiki did. Earlier on, Hibiki said that no character personalities are valid in this debate, so Gotenks wouldn't be so cocky, Goku wouldn't be so cautious and forgiving, etc. Hibiki did this, well, because I said that in a NORMAL fight, Kid Buu wouldn't be teaming with Goku, and Akuma wouldn't be teaming with Ryu (etc, you get the idea) so Hibiki rid us of character personalities.

[BRODIEMAN]

CauSE gOkU cAnZ detrsoZ dA uNIverz

[Scorponok]

[quoteost_uid0="TarkanX"]Post why you think each would win(and don't say dumb things like, "because gOkU cAnZ detrsoZ dA uNIverz"), back up your evidence also.[/quote]
Did you not see that, or are you really that stupid? Or maybe, you're just a noob :biggrin: I really think it was the last one. I'm justa waitin for the perfect time to enter the debate.. (and trying to read the whole damn thing) :biggrin:



Edited By Scorponok on Feb. 17 2003 at 19:11

[BRODIEMAN]

It was just a joke

[SBYRD5]

Well Dan made this debate easily one sided then....

Anyone could see without those weaknesses to explore...DBZ would own Street Fighter hands down.