Hell there is a hell... - I'm not playing with you...=/

[m0u5y]

aw animals have feelings? i mean take my brother for instance... uh hello, what are humans then? does a bigger brain mean a soul? i say that something souless couldn't live. cant you see the soul of your dog when you look into its loving eyes??? they do need affection and are sad when their masters are gone. if an animal can feel sad, happy, angry and all those, then it should have a soul, unless you want to debate that there is no such thing? sometimes i think (a little bit too much) that all we are is a series of complex connections, electric and chemical reactions evolved from the simplest life-form... or maybe a collection of smaller organisms called cells that work together to sustain each other... oops going off topic here lol.

[quoteost_uid0="m0u5y"]aw animals have feelings? i mean take my brother for instance... uh hello, what are humans then? does a bigger brain mean a soul? i say that something souless couldn't live. cant you see the soul of your dog when you look into its loving eyes??? they do need affection and are sad when their masters are gone. if an animal can feel sad, happy, angry and all those, then it should have a soul, unless you want to debate that there is no such thing? sometimes i think (a little bit too much) that all we are is a series of complex connections, electric and chemical reactions evolved from the simplest life-form... or maybe a collection of smaller organisms called cells that work together to sustain each other... oops going off topic here lol.[/quote]
Actually that was perfectly on-topic.

[m0u5y]

oh yay ^_^

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[quoteost_uid0="(ShinKu_Ryu)"]do you know the story of Adam and Eve..?!?You dont cause u dont read the bible........those two were the first humans god created in his image...?!?then where could scientist's have got that we evolved from apes... ??? [/quote]
Of course, if that were true... then technically, no matter who we marry, date, or fall in love with, we could consider it as incest.

we are leving in hell and try looking at things with different views........

I'm gonna guess that you're trying to say "living", even though the letter "e" is usually far away from the letter "i" on keyboards.
First of all, everyone looks at everything with a different view. No view will ever be the same; just similar, perhaps. To say different is to be controlling and pompous. If you were, however, telling Joe to look at things with different views, then you should look and read closer. He's been looking at this entire topic and everything else with a very open mind. He tries to disprove your beliefs, because they are somewhat ridiculus in ways.

what do u think makes us any different from animals? Because humans have a soul and animals don't.

Humans are animals too, genius.

Do you have proof that Spirits don't exist.

A better question: do you have proof that they do exist?

Even some scientist believe in God, that spirits do exist, even as u speak u have a soul without even knowing it.

True or not, Scientists believing in god will try to find proof that god exists. When they've succeeded, you can call the press for all ofus.
You also do not need to have a soul in order to speak. In fact, you don't need a soul to live. Souls are just manifestations of memories, dreams, and people that have died. If you want to go with souls, you'd have to be reincarnated to continue to have a soul. Unless, of course, your soul was just born into this world. But that's only if you have a soul.

I did give u proof of a source.....that there is a source of energy that created the universe and that it concludes to the existence of God.

Wow. Source of energy that created the universe. Big proof. What if it was just a whole lot of tiny little sources of energy coming together and colliding to create this universe? You can't say that proves the existence of a God; just like you can't say that a few words in a book proves his existance (ditto for countless believers, priests, and preachers).

Natuku joe, all this u have been saying proves that ur way in to scince.....cause every thing u have been saying u have been relating to scince...dont know why...

Is there something wrong with him being into science? Maybe I should say you're way into christianity; because everything you've been saying stems from your religion and the beliefs you hold that stem from it. And I don't know why either. Doesn't meant that it makes it ok for me to use this as a form of retaliation. (I dun care if I spelled that word wrong right now, btw. It's an icky word.)

Scientist's have been try to understand everything that they are lying to them selves and to others

While at the same time, you're doing that too. What you say may not be a lie to you, but to others, it can be a lie. Perspectives, motives, and morals change depending on the person; and generalizing all people in anyway can be dangerous upon your already tattered judgement. Keep that in mind.

[ledmonkey]

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Let this topic Die before we end up killing somebody.....</span>

[Elena]

[quoteost_uid0="ledmonkey"]<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Let this topic Die before we end up killing somebody.....</span>[/quote]
I already tried to stop it. Just let it runs its course like all the others like it.

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Anyway, it seems that it will be necessary.

[vx_unicom]

Joe ur wrong, those damn scientist are wong too.......how come none of those scientist ever proven on TV how animals evolve so we can see it. It doen't make sense that the world just started to form by itself man!!. There must have been something that made that impact to happen. I read in the bible on how the earth was created and it makes more sense than those scientist who try explain to explain how the earth was made. Everything that exist has a maker who created them all. Things just don't start to create themselves. Unlike humans even though u say they evolved from animals which i disagree, there must have been something that caused them to evolve from animals to humans. If God and the Devil didn't exist then we wouldn't know what sin is and what the truth is which again conludes to the existance of God and the devil. God is Truth and the devil is sin, there is no need for prove that God exists, Statistically speaking so far people agree that God exist and there is a HEAVEN and a HELL which i agree as well. ???

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[quoteost_uid0="vx_unicom"]Joe ur wrong, those damn scientist are wong too.......how come none of those scientist ever proven on TV how animals evolve so we can see it.[/quote]
Actually, you can't show that something is evolving AT A CURRENT MOMENT OF TIME. If you were truly knowledgable with science, you would know that. But then you must have lied, did you not?

It doen't make sense that the world just started to form by itself man!!.

As you once implied, if everything must have a purpose, then this does make sense. Little tiny bits and pieces forming themselves together in order to become what we know as life and the earth today. It has more sense than just one entity creating it all.

There must have been something that made that impact to happen. I read in the bible on how the earth was created and it makes more sense than those scientist who try explain to explain how the earth was made.

Of course it makes more sense to you: You're totally brainwashed, and don't take the time to notice what other people are saying. You're 100% religious, and that can be a big problem in any debate in life. You're becoming your own worst enemy for this one, that's for sure.

Everything that exist has a maker who created them all. Things just don't start to create themselves.

Yes they do. We have tiny little organsms that come together to create things. They're called molecules.

Unlike humans even though u say they evolved from animals which i disagree, there must have been something that caused them to evolve from animals to humans.

Humans <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>ARE ANIMALS</span>, you dolt. We evolved into what we are today, because we adapted to life and became smarter with time and experience. Everything is like that; but it takes a very long time to get from where we were billions of years ago to where we are today.

If God and the Devil didn't exist then we wouldn't know what sin is and what the truth is which again conludes to the existance of God and the devil. God is Truth and the devil is sin, there is no need for prove that God exists

Sin is just another, smaller word for wrong-doing, faulty action, misbehavior, etc. Truth and Sin are both changeable with the minds, perspectives, thoughts, morals, and laws of people. Plus, there are many forms of each: Mild, strong, complete, total, incidental, accidental, unpreventable, and destructive for Sin, and half-, little-, solid-, faded-, small-, hidden-, false-, questionable-, destructive-, horrific-, sad-, and wrong- for truths. There are many more, but these are the most commonly used.

Statistically speaking so far people agree that God exist and there is a HEAVEN and a HELL which i agree as well. ???

Statistics are for politicians, mathematicians, surveyors and news reporters. To trust them is to trust that only a small percentage of the population over the entire world believes this; and it's only in one area at a time. In fact, most people will refuse to be polled on such things: So you can't count this as proof or help for you. For all you know, more non-believers than believers.

[m0u5y]

if god created the universe, who created god? just like the big bang theory, it doesnt make sense, creation from nothing? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? the thing is humans dont know anything about anything just like the rest of the animals on this planet. religion and even science are just ways to make the humans feel like they have control and knowledge because the alternative answer (they have no clue of nothing) would cause them to go insane. science and religion are both human creations so they are subject to human bias. everything you know can be disproved. human error is the source of all the problems. and no computers cant figure it out since they are human creations too. infact... you could debate forever and ever about religion vs. science or any other controversial topic because anything that is controversial will always have multiple views and answers, and this is the defenite truth of all.
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