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another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues
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Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.

It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.
After his death
dubya tee eff he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.
Okay, there are many different ways to tackle that. I'll go through each one.

1) Okay, we don't even know if that's in context. I can say:



This picture was taken the day of tupac's death.



Now he's in a suit! It doesn't make sense! That proves he's alive!

Yeah, I agree, but does the prove he's alive? No, it proves there is ambiguity in your pictures and there was a miscommunication.

We don't even know if that picture WAS taken on the day of his death, if it was the medal in question, if it has been photoshopped or those photos have been planted!

Point of story, they don't make sense.


2) The website you got them from even AGREE that he's dead.

You got them from pacside.com, right?
Well check this out:
http://www.pacside.com/pacside....t=Tupac

Why would they be arguing for something they don't believe in? That doesn't make sense, and you're probably posting pictures out of context.

3) Third, he could have had those necklasses in his pocket or even in the car, or even in the general vacinity. They might actually have been Suge knight's!

Quote:
Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.
WRONG.

"The Prince" is NOT about Machiaveli's life, it was about how to rule as a monarch. The book says you should rule without religion, without mercey and without honor. I know this becuase I actually read this book just recently.

Now, if Tupac liked Machiaveli or not doesn't matter. Personally, I like malcolm X. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be shot while delivering a speech. I also like Abreham Lincoln, it doesn't mean I'm gonna become president.

Second, death row created this Makaveli name becuase they WANTED TO SELL RECORDS! They needed a hook, something interesting to sell "Don killumati", becuase the music itself was so poopty.

Look, even AMG agrees:

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

Quote:
-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.
That's because there are multiple reports of police curruption, linking with gangmembers and even conspiring against tupac with those who wanted to harm him.

How come they havn't found Martain Luther King's murderers? Does that mean HE'S still alive?

Quote:
-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange
The 13th? I thought it was the 14th. You even said so yourself:

"
Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after."


So which is it, the 14th or 13th?

Quote:
-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)
There is NO connection with makaveli and "I am alive". That's just retarded, and ofcourse the original Michaiveli didn't plan this, so it's not true.


Quote:
- MAKAVELI Album:
That album sucked. 99.9% of it was just death row hype, production and rumors to carry this album to big places when it's a bunch of fat air.

Quote:
==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.
Yeah, I heard it. What is it about? Jesus, religion, god, blasphemy.

What does that mean? There's gonna be a whole mess load of death in it.

Jimi Hendrex sang about death, does that mean he's still alive?


Quote:
==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"
That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-sha...ans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.

Quote:
-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.
I looked for that song, for that video, for those shoes, for some images.

I found nothing.

Now, unless you give us those pictures of those shoes (and don't forget to prove he took out that money), you can't use that argument.

I can CLAIM tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it, it's a lie.

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:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.
No, he's dead. Quit being a conspirecy theorist and face the damn facts.

I can claim John Lennon is alive, but unless I have him here, right now, it's a lie.

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another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues
-_-

Biggie and Tupac hated each other. They didn't like each other and were constantly saying they would kill each other. If you say "Rest in peace, tupac" when tupac isn't dead yet, you are basically giving a death threat.

If tupac said "Rest in peace, the pope" Does that mean tupac is still alive? Or does it just mean he's saying things because he hates the pope, as we can see in lyrics like "White man's world"?

He's dead, dude. Face it.
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dubya tee eff u say im not reading all of that *i cant read*
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Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.

It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.
After his death
dubya tee eff he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.
Okay, there are many different ways to tackle that. I'll go through each one.

1) Okay, we don't even know if that's in context. I can say:



This picture was taken the day of tupac's death.



Now he's in a suit! It doesn't make sense! That proves he's alive!

Yeah, I agree, but does the prove he's alive? No, it proves there is ambiguity in your pictures and there was a miscommunication.

We don't even know if that picture WAS taken on the day of his death, if it was the medal in question, if it has been photoshopped or those photos have been planted!

Point of story, they don't make sense.


2) The website you got them from even AGREE that he's dead.

You got them from pacside.com, right?
Well check this out:
http://www.pacside.com/pacside....t=Tupac

Why would they be arguing for something they don't believe in? That doesn't make sense, and you're probably posting pictures out of context.

3) Third, he could have had those necklasses in his pocket or even in the car, or even in the general vacinity. They might actually have been Suge knight's!

Quote:
Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.
WRONG.

"The Prince" is NOT about Machiaveli's life, it was about how to rule as a monarch. The book says you should rule without religion, without mercey and without honor. I know this becuase I actually read this book just recently.

Now, if Tupac liked Machiaveli or not doesn't matter. Personally, I like malcolm X. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be shot while delivering a speech. I also like Abreham Lincoln, it doesn't mean I'm gonna become president.

Second, death row created this Makaveli name becuase they WANTED TO SELL RECORDS! They needed a hook, something interesting to sell "Don killumati", becuase the music itself was so poopty.

Look, even AMG agrees:

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

Quote:
-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.
That's because there are multiple reports of police curruption, linking with gangmembers and even conspiring against tupac with those who wanted to harm him.

How come they havn't found Martain Luther King's murderers? Does that mean HE'S still alive?

Quote:
-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange
The 13th? I thought it was the 14th. You even said so yourself:

"
Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after."


So which is it, the 14th or 13th?

Quote:
-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)
There is NO connection with makaveli and "I am alive". That's just retarded, and ofcourse the original Michaiveli didn't plan this, so it's not true.


Quote:
- MAKAVELI Album:
That album sucked. 99.9% of it was just death row hype, production and rumors to carry this album to big places when it's a bunch of fat air.

Quote:
==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.
Yeah, I heard it. What is it about? Jesus, religion, god, blasphemy.

What does that mean? There's gonna be a whole mess load of death in it.

Jimi Hendrex sang about death, does that mean he's still alive?


Quote:
==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"
That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-sha...ans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.

Quote:
-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.
I looked for that song, for that video, for those shoes, for some images.

I found nothing.

Now, unless you give us those pictures of those shoes (and don't forget to prove he took out that money), you can't use that argument.

I can CLAIM tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it, it's a lie.

Quote:
:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.
No, he's dead. Quit being a conspirecy theorist and face the damn facts.

I can claim John Lennon is alive, but unless I have him here, right now, it's a lie.

---------------------


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another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues
-_-

Biggie and Tupac hated each other. They didn't like each other and were constantly saying they would kill each other. If you say "Rest in peace, tupac" when tupac isn't dead yet, you are basically giving a death threat.

If tupac said "Rest in peace, the pope" Does that mean tupac is still alive? Or does it just mean he's saying things because he hates the pope, as we can see in lyrics like "White man's world"?

He's dead, dude. Face it.
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Bravo! Excellent points....and did you makes those pictures? Or did someone else do it because they did a bad job of cutting and pasting....each person who was put in the picture had a different quality....but anyways....

I wish you people would give it up...2pac is dead...I think his death...added to his stardom anyways.
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eh....even if he still were alive dont you think someone would of said something.....
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Bravo! Excellent points....and did you makes those pictures? Or did someone else do it because they did a bad job of cutting and pasting....each person who was put in the picture had a different quality....but anyways....
No, becuase those two pictures was my annalogy of taking pictures out of context, since those two pictures could have been taken on two different days on two different situations, as were the two pictures I posted, and slapped on a foolish claim in the end of it.
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==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ?"


That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-sha...ans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.


Dont forget that im french, i have read the french Lyrics, im not able to REtranslate them in english !!
The Prince is a book about a monarch, this monarch is Machiaveli, Nicocolo Machiaveli a war monarch.

All my friends and me think that he is alive. :colgate:


-He have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is dead 7 days after: You undertand.
7 8 9 10 11 12 13. 7 days where is the prob :sleeping:

I will repost later, two days in party, i have drunk, i want sleep and im going sleep now

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No, the book is a handbook about how to rule. It's not a biography, or how Michialveli lived, or even mentioning the false death of him.

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-He have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is dead 7 days after: You undertand.
7 8 9 10 11 12 13. 7 days where is the prob :sleeping:
7 + 7 = 14. The first day isnt counted, because if you count it, it'd be saying "he was shot on the 7th, he died 7 day later"

"oh, the 14?" (IE: 7+7=14)

"no, the 13"
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Look these Pics:
Before his death, at MGM the night of his death.

It was a new medal, before this his medal was the deathRow record's medal.
After his death
dubya tee eff he wore an other medal !!!! It wasnt the Deathrow medal.
Okay, there are many different ways to tackle that. I'll go through each one.

1) Okay, we don't even know if that's in context. I can say:



This picture was taken the day of tupac's death.



Now he's in a suit! It doesn't make sense! That proves he's alive!

Yeah, I agree, but does the prove he's alive? No, it proves there is ambiguity in your pictures and there was a miscommunication.

We don't even know if that picture WAS taken on the day of his death, if it was the medal in question, if it has been photoshopped or those photos have been planted!

Point of story, they don't make sense.


2) The website you got them from even AGREE that he's dead.

You got them from pacside.com, right?
Well check this out:
http://www.pacside.com/pacside....t=Tupac

Why would they be arguing for something they don't believe in? That doesn't make sense, and you're probably posting pictures out of context.

3) Third, he could have had those necklasses in his pocket or even in the car, or even in the general vacinity. They might actually have been Suge knight's!

Quote:
Now lets go:
-After his death The title of his album was MAKAVELI
Tupac was a fan of Machiaveli, he have read his book a lots of time (he have admited this)
Nicccolo Machiaveli have write a lots of Book: "The Prince" is THE book with Machiaveli's story. Tupac have read this book in Prison and at home. When he is dead the police had found this book.
WRONG.

"The Prince" is NOT about Machiaveli's life, it was about how to rule as a monarch. The book says you should rule without religion, without mercey and without honor. I know this becuase I actually read this book just recently.

Now, if Tupac liked Machiaveli or not doesn't matter. Personally, I like malcolm X. It doesn't mean I'm gonna be shot while delivering a speech. I also like Abreham Lincoln, it doesn't mean I'm gonna become president.

Second, death row created this Makaveli name becuase they WANTED TO SELL RECORDS! They needed a hook, something interesting to sell "Don killumati", becuase the music itself was so poopty.

Look, even AMG agrees:

"Everything about The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory smacks of exploitation. Released only eight weeks after Tupac Shakur died from gunshot wounds, Death Row released this posthumous album under the name of Makaveli, a pseudonym derived from the Italian politician Niccolo Machiavelli, who faked his own death and reappeared seven days later to take revenge on his enemies. Naturally, the appearance of Don Killuminati so shortly after Tupac's death led many conspiracy theorists to surmise the rapper was still alive, but it was all part of a calculated marketing strategy by Death Row -- the label needed something to sustain interest in the album, since the music here is so shoddy."

Quote:
-Why the polive havent tried to catch the ppl who have shoot Tupac and Suge ?? Just try to steal something in a casino, the police will pursage you.
That's because there are multiple reports of police curruption, linking with gangmembers and even conspiring against tupac with those who wanted to harm him.

How come they havn't found Martain Luther King's murderers? Does that mean HE'S still alive?

Quote:
-Tupac's Death Date: Vendredi 13 (September 96) ..... Just Strange
The 13th? I thought it was the 14th. You even said so yourself:

"
Tupac have been shooted the 7 September 1996, he is fallen in a coma, and he is dead 7 day after."


So which is it, the 14th or 13th?

Quote:
-Now Read this an open your Eyes !!!!
MAKAVEKI, just forget the K: MA AVELI. Oki Now find with your head: MA KAVELI ==> AM ALIVE (its strange here too)
There is NO connection with makaveli and "I am alive". That's just retarded, and ofcourse the original Michaiveli didn't plan this, so it's not true.


Quote:
- MAKAVELI Album:
That album sucked. 99.9% of it was just death row hype, production and rumors to carry this album to big places when it's a bunch of fat air.

Quote:
==>Song 5: Blasphemy. heard this music.
Yeah, I heard it. What is it about? Jesus, religion, god, blasphemy.

What does that mean? There's gonna be a whole mess load of death in it.

Jimi Hendrex sang about death, does that mean he's still alive?


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==>Song 9: White Man'z World. He said: "My time is far, its just make perfectly , You know that iam dead ????"
That's such a lie. He doesn't even say that! Here are the lyrics:
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/tupac-sha...ans-world.html

He doesn't say that or anything CLOSE to that.

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-Toss it up the clip: you can see Tupac with new shoes: Penny Hardaway. These shoes was sold after his death.
I looked for that song, for that video, for those shoes, for some images.

I found nothing.

Now, unless you give us those pictures of those shoes (and don't forget to prove he took out that money), you can't use that argument.

I can CLAIM tupac went to the moon, but unless I prove it, it's a lie.

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:buttrock: Tupac is Alive.
No, he's dead. Quit being a conspirecy theorist and face the damn facts.

I can claim John Lennon is alive, but unless I have him here, right now, it's a lie.

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another thing my brother himself even figured out. in the beggining of "god bless the dead" tupac clearly says "Rest In Peace To The Muthfkin Biggie Smalls" how the flip would he knowbiggies dead if he died before him? this song was released when him an biggie were still friends. maybe tupac is dead. or maybe he jus planned out his death an jus left out clues
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Biggie and Tupac hated each other. They didn't like each other and were constantly saying they would kill each other. If you say "Rest in peace, tupac" when tupac isn't dead yet, you are basically giving a death threat.

If tupac said "Rest in peace, the pope" Does that mean tupac is still alive? Or does it just mean he's saying things because he hates the pope, as we can see in lyrics like "White man's world"?

He's dead, dude. Face it.
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maybe but at least witnesses were there to see martin luther kings shot.


and also read again. TUPAC RECORDED THAT SONG WHEN BIGGIE AND HIMSELF WERE STILL FRIENDS.
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