Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga) - Page 79

Nantuko Joe · 12-18-2002, 03:41 PM

Hrmm...I gotta think about this...

Gill can launch an infinate amount of one-hit-kill blasts an infinite number of times without EVER running out of energy due to tiredness or stress...hrmm...this might be tougher to counter than I thought...

Dan Hibiki · 12-18-2002, 04:40 PM

I'll try to get vids, but it'll be hard. I don't know if I have access to the equipment anymore.

MasterX05 · 12-18-2002, 07:08 PM

omg this is still here. :eh:

Nantuko Joe · 12-19-2002, 07:29 AM

Okay, I figured out a solution just as my comp was shutting down yesterday, but was too impatient to wait for my comp to restart.

If someone (Kuririn, Tien, or Goku) uses the Taiyoken "Solar Flare" prior to Gill's launch of the Seraph Wing, it will blind Gill, and leave Gill helpless for a minute, enough time for Goku to power up a Kamehameha and blast Gill. Hell, with Gill blinded, Goku and Gohan can powerup a Kamehameha, Tien can powerup a Shinkikoho, Vegeta his Final Flash, and Goten and Trunks can fuse into SSJ3 Gotenks and use his Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack.

But IMO, just Kamehameha and Final Flash (or Biku Bang)should be enough to destroy Gill's body before he recovers from the Taiyoken.

Dan Hibiki · 12-19-2002, 08:08 AM

... except we already covered that Seraphic Wing has no charge time. Even blinded he can pull it off. He doesn't need to see to hit people.

Nantuko Joe · 12-19-2002, 08:59 AM

However, as we are shown in DBZ, the blindness caused by the Taiyoken also causes extreme pain, and the victims are helpless, blind or not. Take Cell for example. He used his Taiyoken to blind everybody so he could absorb android 18. Now, even though everyone was blind, a few of them still could have used their own attacks. Kuririn, though blind, could have jumped up in the air and used his own Taiyoken to blind Cell in return, but he was in too much pain to do so.

Dan Hibiki · 12-19-2002, 10:09 AM

Joe, stare at the sun for a second and you'll understand. It isn't pain, but just not being able to see.

Nantuko Joe · 12-20-2002, 05:00 AM

Um...i've done that before. I can stare at the sun for quite some time before I have to turn my eyes away. It's not that bad.

The Taiyoken takes the sunlight, magnifies it, and reflects it into one giant burst of light that blinds anyone close to it. It's like staring into the intensity of ten suns. Go back and watch/read the Cell Saga, after Cell used the Taiyoken, everybody was in extreme pain, and they were still blind even after the pain wore off...

Dan Hibiki · 12-20-2002, 07:12 AM

No, they were just blind. Let me rephrase... be blinded by a light once in your life and you will understand.

Nantuko Joe · 12-20-2002, 09:29 AM

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ost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]No, they were just blind. Let me rephrase... be blinded by a light once in your life and you will understand.[/quote]
I HAVE been blinded before. Let me use an example:

You know when you wake up in the morning (or at night), and it's still dark, and you flip on the switch to go to the bathroom, and the light blinds you and it hurts? The Taiyoken is like a hundred times stronger than that.

Another example: Wearing night vision goggles in the dark, and someone flips on a light. Taiyoken is worse than that.

When Cell used his Taiyoken, the warriors were not only blind, they were in extreme pain. If they were only blind, they would have been like "Damn! I'm blind! Let's run away!" Or, ppl like Kuririn and Vegeta are able to sense where ki is located without using their eyes (Goku can too), so they'd be able to fight fairly well for their condition while blind. Did they? No, instead they were all writhing in pain, holding their faces.

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12-19-2002, 08:08 AM	#785
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	... except we already covered that Seraphic Wing has no charge time. Even blinded he can pull it off. He doesn't need to see to hit people. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-18-2002, 03:41 PM	#781
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Hrmm...I gotta think about this... Gill can launch an infinate amount of one-hit-kill blasts an infinite number of times without EVER running out of energy due to tiredness or stress...hrmm...this might be tougher to counter than I thought...

12-19-2002, 07:29 AM	#784
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Okay, I figured out a solution just as my comp was shutting down yesterday, but was too impatient to wait for my comp to restart. If someone (Kuririn, Tien, or Goku) uses the Taiyoken "Solar Flare" prior to Gill's launch of the Seraph Wing, it will blind Gill, and leave Gill helpless for a minute, enough time for Goku to power up a Kamehameha and blast Gill. Hell, with Gill blinded, Goku and Gohan can powerup a Kamehameha, Tien can powerup a Shinkikoho, Vegeta his Final Flash, and Goten and Trunks can fuse into SSJ3 Gotenks and use his Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack. But IMO, just Kamehameha and Final Flash (or Biku Bang)should be enough to destroy Gill's body before he recovers from the Taiyoken.

12-19-2002, 08:59 AM	#786
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	However, as we are shown in DBZ, the blindness caused by the Taiyoken also causes extreme pain, and the victims are helpless, blind or not. Take Cell for example. He used his Taiyoken to blind everybody so he could absorb android 18. Now, even though everyone was blind, a few of them still could have used their own attacks. Kuririn, though blind, could have jumped up in the air and used his own Taiyoken to blind Cell in return, but he was in too much pain to do so.

12-19-2002, 10:09 AM	#787
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Joe, stare at the sun for a second and you'll understand. It isn't pain, but just not being able to see. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-20-2002, 05:00 AM	#788
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Um...i've done that before. I can stare at the sun for quite some time before I have to turn my eyes away. It's not that bad. The Taiyoken takes the sunlight, magnifies it, and reflects it into one giant burst of light that blinds anyone close to it. It's like staring into the intensity of ten suns. Go back and watch/read the Cell Saga, after Cell used the Taiyoken, everybody was in extreme pain, and they were still blind even after the pain wore off...

12-20-2002, 07:12 AM	#789
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	No, they were just blind. Let me rephrase... be blinded by a light once in your life and you will understand. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-20-2002, 09:29 AM	#790
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]No, they were just blind. Let me rephrase... be blinded by a light once in your life and you will understand.[/quote] I HAVE been blinded before. Let me use an example: You know when you wake up in the morning (or at night), and it's still dark, and you flip on the switch to go to the bathroom, and the light blinds you and it hurts? The Taiyoken is like a hundred times stronger than that. Another example: Wearing night vision goggles in the dark, and someone flips on a light. Taiyoken is worse than that. When Cell used his Taiyoken, the warriors were not only blind, they were in extreme pain. If they were only blind, they would have been like "Damn! I'm blind! Let's run away!" Or, ppl like Kuririn and Vegeta are able to sense where ki is located without using their eyes (Goku can too), so they'd be able to fight fairly well for their condition while blind. Did they? No, instead they were all writhing in pain, holding their faces.