Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga) - Page 78

Dan Hibiki · 12-18-2002, 07:14 AM

Joe, you seriously SHOULD play SFIII. If you did, you would discover that it IS a rapidly-expanding barrier, but it is MANY, MANY, MANY CONTINUOUS barriers. Goku can't teleport inside, because all that area is within attack range of the Seraphic Wing still.

Also, Joe, whatever happened to keeping personality out of it? This said, in this situation Gill wouldn't care about the Kame Hame Ha. Also, I said that it CAN expand infinitely, but that doesn't mean that Gill can't stop it. In addition, I thought we were going to leave planet-wide destruction out of this... isn't that on page 1 of the debate?

Nantuko Joe · 12-18-2002, 07:17 AM

You indirectly brought up planet-wide destruction. If the Seraph Wing has enough power to kill a Buu-saga level Goku, than it WILL destroy earth, no question about it. If it expands infinately in ALL directions, it WILL hit earth, and earth WILL explode. Therefore, if you wanna leave earth destroying out of this debate, yer gonna have to eliminate the Seraph Wing.

I've got you cornered now, mwahahaha!

Dan Hibiki · 12-18-2002, 07:20 AM

No I don't. The Kame Hame Ha can destroy the earth, and you still use it in the debate. Planet-wide destruction is left out of this debate. Just act like the ground is indestructible or something. This is a fight between CHARACTER ABILITIES AND STRENGTHS, not blowin' planets up and suffocating yourself.

Nantuko Joe · 12-18-2002, 07:29 AM

EDIT: hold on a sec, I just saw that "indestructible ground" thing after I posted...

Well, first off, I'm not gonna run out and buy SFIII just to win this debate. If you can get me a few screenshots of the Seraph Wing, that would be helpful. Also, how many expandable barriers does the Seraph Wing produce? And he can launch it INSTANTLY, as in one instant, it's peace and quiet, and the next INSTANT, everybody's dead?

Dan Hibiki · 12-18-2002, 08:33 AM

First off, he can either take his time with it or he can launch it instantaneously. Also, it can either be around 34 barriers (when he doesn't try) or he can do it almost indefinitely using millions of barriers.

Nantuko Joe · 12-18-2002, 11:41 AM

And is this attack designed to be like a one-hit-KO in the games, or merely a Super/Special/Hyper attack (like Shinkuu Hadouken)?

Furthermore, does Gill appear in Street Fighter 3 or Street Fighter Alpha 3?

Dan Hibiki · 12-18-2002, 11:45 AM

Street Fighter III series, and it is a Super, and it leaves less than 5% of their life after it executes. Gill isn't trying in SFIII. He could obliterate everything if he wanted to try, kind of like how Ryu would never stand a chance against Akuma if Akuma were to try.

Nantuko Joe · 12-18-2002, 12:04 PM

So, according to the Street Fighter rules, Gill would have to build up some energy before launching the SW, he cannot launch it instantly at the beginning of the battle, which would give the Z fighters a bit of time to manage a defense

Dan Hibiki · 12-18-2002, 12:08 PM

Actually, he can, because he doesn't need to build up power in the actual story.

TarkanX · 12-18-2002, 01:52 PM

Yeah Dan, is there a way you can get a vid shot of Gill doing the Seraphic Wing, and also Meteor shower? Make sure you do the Seraphic Wing on crouching Akuma(it totally kills all his life).

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12-18-2002, 07:14 AM	#771
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Joe, you seriously SHOULD play SFIII. If you did, you would discover that it IS a rapidly-expanding barrier, but it is MANY, MANY, MANY CONTINUOUS barriers. Goku can't teleport inside, because all that area is within attack range of the Seraphic Wing still. Also, Joe, whatever happened to keeping personality out of it? This said, in this situation Gill wouldn't care about the Kame Hame Ha. Also, I said that it CAN expand infinitely, but that doesn't mean that Gill can't stop it. In addition, I thought we were going to leave planet-wide destruction out of this... isn't that on page 1 of the debate? __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-18-2002, 07:20 AM	#773
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	No I don't. The Kame Hame Ha can destroy the earth, and you still use it in the debate. Planet-wide destruction is left out of this debate. Just act like the ground is indestructible or something. This is a fight between CHARACTER ABILITIES AND STRENGTHS, not blowin' planets up and suffocating yourself. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-18-2002, 08:33 AM	#775
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	First off, he can either take his time with it or he can launch it instantaneously. Also, it can either be around 34 barriers (when he doesn't try) or he can do it almost indefinitely using millions of barriers. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-18-2002, 07:17 AM	#772
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	You indirectly brought up planet-wide destruction. If the Seraph Wing has enough power to kill a Buu-saga level Goku, than it WILL destroy earth, no question about it. If it expands infinately in ALL directions, it WILL hit earth, and earth WILL explode. Therefore, if you wanna leave earth destroying out of this debate, yer gonna have to eliminate the Seraph Wing. I've got you cornered now, mwahahaha!

12-18-2002, 07:29 AM	#774
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	EDIT: hold on a sec, I just saw that "indestructible ground" thing after I posted... Well, first off, I'm not gonna run out and buy SFIII just to win this debate. If you can get me a few screenshots of the Seraph Wing, that would be helpful. Also, how many expandable barriers does the Seraph Wing produce? And he can launch it INSTANTLY, as in one instant, it's peace and quiet, and the next INSTANT, everybody's dead?

12-18-2002, 11:41 AM	#776
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	And is this attack designed to be like a one-hit-KO in the games, or merely a Super/Special/Hyper attack (like Shinkuu Hadouken)? Furthermore, does Gill appear in Street Fighter 3 or Street Fighter Alpha 3?

12-18-2002, 11:45 AM	#777
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Street Fighter III series, and it is a Super, and it leaves less than 5% of their life after it executes. Gill isn't trying in SFIII. He could obliterate everything if he wanted to try, kind of like how Ryu would never stand a chance against Akuma if Akuma were to try. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-18-2002, 12:04 PM	#778
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	So, according to the Street Fighter rules, Gill would have to build up some energy before launching the SW, he cannot launch it instantly at the beginning of the battle, which would give the Z fighters a bit of time to manage a defense

12-18-2002, 12:08 PM	#779
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Actually, he can, because he doesn't need to build up power in the actual story. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-18-2002, 01:52 PM	#780
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Yeah Dan, is there a way you can get a vid shot of Gill doing the Seraphic Wing, and also Meteor shower? Make sure you do the Seraphic Wing on crouching Akuma(it totally kills all his life).