Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga) - Page 74

Dan Hibiki · 12-10-2002, 07:20 AM

You are NOT thinking, Nantuko Joe, and you are NOT taking into account Enma's personality. We can reason that Shin Bison has his own reasons for fighting, but we CAN'T reason that somehow Enma thinks that it is crucial to resurrect the DBZ fighters. NO WAY.

Not only is your argument cheesy and an attempt at getting back at Gill's mere existence in the SF world, it is also complete bull no matter how you break it down. Enma would NEVER do such a thing as you are describing.

Even if you said that Shin Bison wouldn't fight along with the SF fighters, then it would not change anything. It has already been determined that Shin Bison wouldn't do anything significant to the balance of power.

Nantuko Joe · 12-10-2002, 07:29 AM

[color=green]Chill out dude. I was using Shin Bison as an example. This is what I'm trying to get across...

You're correct in saying "Enma would NEVER do such a thing, blah blah blah, blah blah blah". It's all true, but only under NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES. In the true DBZ storyline, then yes, Enma would not revive someone unless it was a life-or-death situation.

However, under normal circumstances, would the sides of good and evil in Street Fighter be fighting alongside each other? Would they just say "Screw our lifelong feud, let's get DBZ!"? No. Would Goku NORMALLY be fighting alongside his worst enemies? No? Would Street Fighter characters even be fighting against DragonballZ characters? No?

Now, in this debate, it's ALL of the Street Fighter characters versus ALL of the DBZ characters. Each side wants to win, and can and will do anything possible to help their side win. Enma is a DBZ character. Sure, he wouldn't normally revive someone unless the circumstances are dire, but at this moment, in this debate, he's fighting WITH the DBZ characters, and AGAINST the SF characters, and for the purpose of this debate, will do ANYTHING to help the DBZ fighters the win. This includes resurrection.

If there was a SF fighter who only used a special attack in extreme, sake-of-the-world situations, would you include him in this debate? Even if it would win you the debate?

Enma, for the sake of this debate, is like any of the Z fighters. He's fighting alongside them to destroy the enemy. If constant resurrection would help the Z fighters to the win, then so be it, he can do so. But you can't say "he wouldn't do it in the DBZ storyline, so he can't do it here," because if that were the case, then you could also say "Buu can't fight alongside Goku, because he wouldn't do it in the DBZ storyline."

Roll · 12-10-2002, 07:31 AM

Well, if you're still going on about the Enma thing, then I think I have a way to stop it. Morrigan can be used in this fight, because she has been included in the SF universe before. If you want proof, check the SFA2 Ken's stage, and look at these pictures:

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Pic 6
Pic 7
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Pic 10

Check both of these things out, and like Tarkan said "Trust the gameplay, not the manga". So, Morrigan can and will be used in this debate.

Nantuko Joe · 12-10-2002, 07:35 AM

Okay, that's fine. That series of pics seriously came from a game? How sad...

Dan Hibiki · 12-10-2002, 08:03 AM

Well, technically because Morrigan is included, if somehow this debate continues we can call on the other Darkstalkers by association.

It did happen in a game. We win. Morrigan steals all of the Z fighter's souls, making it so that King Enma can't do anything.

TarkanX · 12-10-2002, 02:55 PM

Just wanted to drop by...

Roll: replying to your post about Morrigan in SF universe, those pics don't count. Pocket Fighter, or Super Puzzle fighter doesn't coincide with the SF storyline, and the Morrigan, and others in Ken's Alpha 2 stage is just a dress up birthday party for Eliza.

princevegetam · 12-10-2002, 03:11 PM

tarkan is right, morrigan isn't a street fighter. those pocket/puzzle fighter things are just like the vs series, they're mixed up by capcom.

Blogen · 12-10-2002, 03:43 PM

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ost_uid0="princevegetam"]tarkan is right, morrigan isn't a street fighter. those pocket/puzzle fighter things are just like the vs series, they're mixed up by capcom.[/quote]
Yep

Gotenks13 · 12-10-2002, 07:38 PM

You have permission to stop agreeing with Tarkan...

Nantuko Joe · 12-11-2002, 05:58 AM

So, now SF has to deal with Lord Enma AND a couple sets of Dragonballs. Face it, DBZ has this fight in the bag...

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12-10-2002, 07:20 AM	#731
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	You are NOT thinking, Nantuko Joe, and you are NOT taking into account Enma's personality. We can reason that Shin Bison has his own reasons for fighting, but we CAN'T reason that somehow Enma thinks that it is crucial to resurrect the DBZ fighters. NO WAY. Not only is your argument cheesy and an attempt at getting back at Gill's mere existence in the SF world, it is also complete bull no matter how you break it down. Enma would NEVER do such a thing as you are describing. Even if you said that Shin Bison wouldn't fight along with the SF fighters, then it would not change anything. It has already been determined that Shin Bison wouldn't do anything significant to the balance of power. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-10-2002, 07:31 AM	#733
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Well, if you're still going on about the Enma thing, then I think I have a way to stop it. Morrigan can be used in this fight, because she has been included in the SF universe before. If you want proof, check the SFA2 Ken's stage, and look at these pictures: Pic 1 Pic 2 Pic 3 Pic 4 Pic 5 Pic 6 Pic 7 Pic 8 Pic 9 Pic 10 Check both of these things out, and like Tarkan said "Trust the gameplay, not the manga". So, Morrigan can and will be used in this debate. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

12-10-2002, 08:03 AM	#735
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Well, technically because Morrigan is included, if somehow this debate continues we can call on the other Darkstalkers by association. It did happen in a game. We win. Morrigan steals all of the Z fighter's souls, making it so that King Enma can't do anything. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

12-10-2002, 07:29 AM	#732
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[color=green]Chill out dude. I was using Shin Bison as an example. This is what I'm trying to get across... You're correct in saying "Enma would NEVER do such a thing, blah blah blah, blah blah blah". It's all true, but only under NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES. In the true DBZ storyline, then yes, Enma would not revive someone unless it was a life-or-death situation. However, under normal circumstances, would the sides of good and evil in Street Fighter be fighting alongside each other? Would they just say "Screw our lifelong feud, let's get DBZ!"? No. Would Goku NORMALLY be fighting alongside his worst enemies? No? Would Street Fighter characters even be fighting against DragonballZ characters? No? Now, in this debate, it's ALL of the Street Fighter characters versus ALL of the DBZ characters. Each side wants to win, and can and will do anything possible to help their side win. Enma is a DBZ character. Sure, he wouldn't normally revive someone unless the circumstances are dire, but at this moment, in this debate, he's fighting WITH the DBZ characters, and AGAINST the SF characters, and for the purpose of this debate, will do ANYTHING to help the DBZ fighters the win. This includes resurrection. If there was a SF fighter who only used a special attack in extreme, sake-of-the-world situations, would you include him in this debate? Even if it would win you the debate? Enma, for the sake of this debate, is like any of the Z fighters. He's fighting alongside them to destroy the enemy. If constant resurrection would help the Z fighters to the win, then so be it, he can do so. But you can't say "he wouldn't do it in the DBZ storyline, so he can't do it here," because if that were the case, then you could also say "Buu can't fight alongside Goku, because he wouldn't do it in the DBZ storyline."

12-10-2002, 07:35 AM	#734
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Okay, that's fine. That series of pics seriously came from a game? How sad...

12-10-2002, 02:55 PM	#736
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Just wanted to drop by... Roll: replying to your post about Morrigan in SF universe, those pics don't count. Pocket Fighter, or Super Puzzle fighter doesn't coincide with the SF storyline, and the Morrigan, and others in Ken's Alpha 2 stage is just a dress up birthday party for Eliza.

12-10-2002, 03:11 PM	#737
princevegetam Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 1,690 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	tarkan is right, morrigan isn't a street fighter. those pocket/puzzle fighter things are just like the vs series, they're mixed up by capcom. __________________ [quote:sig_uid]the strong survive, and the weak just die...[/quote:sig_uid] http://www.boomspeed.com/ssjvegetam/Iori2.jpg

12-10-2002, 03:43 PM	#738
Blogen Junior Member New Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 8 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="princevegetam"]tarkan is right, morrigan isn't a street fighter. those pocket/puzzle fighter things are just like the vs series, they're mixed up by capcom.[/quote] Yep __________________ http://www.gpetz.com/animations/animation158.gif</a></center>

12-10-2002, 07:38 PM	#739
Gotenks13 Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alabama sucks...I'm movin' to Florida when I graduate... Posts: 326 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	You have permission to stop agreeing with Tarkan... __________________ O6' MUTHA SMUCKA!!!!!

12-11-2002, 05:58 AM	#740
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	So, now SF has to deal with Lord Enma AND a couple sets of Dragonballs. Face it, DBZ has this fight in the bag...