Xmen vs dragonballz - Who will win - Page 7

Nantuko Joe · 10-16-2002, 06:25 AM

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a saibaymen have sucessfully grabbed onto YAMCHA and yamcha was way faster then it

Then again, Yamucha thought that the Saibaman was dead. It surprised him when he had his back turned. He turned around, it jumped on him (he was too surprised to move out of the way) and blew up and killed him

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the speed in a fight isn't all that count and you all are making comment as the characters were PERFECT in every single move they do ! scuse me but vegeta is so STUBORN that even the weakest being can go and trap him !

Have you SEEN the DBZ characters hand-to-hand? You can barely even see them. That's because of their speed. In a fight, speed is everything. Power is only secondary. Look at the Cell saga: USSJ Trunks had more than enough POWER to defeat Perfect Cell, but lacked the SPEED to do so. The DBZ characters can SEE and MOVE faster than normal humans (or even mutants) can. Howver, STRENGTH and POWER also play big parts. If Wolvie takes a swing with his claws...Goku or Vegeta or Trunks or Gohan or Goten or Piccolo could just block it, parry it, then punch a hole through his chest.

ajtimbs · 10-16-2002, 06:27 AM

x men vs dbz? ???
o i see i don't like dbz
i like x men and pokemon and yu-gi-ho

Nantuko Joe · 10-16-2002, 06:44 AM

If you have nothing intelligent to say, then don't say anything

Roll · 10-16-2002, 10:34 AM

Trust me, Piccolo, throwing water on Pheonix is not going to do anything at all. Judging by her appearance in the Episodes, she has enough power with mind control to surpass Xavier's even with Cerebro linked with him. Pheonix could just fly over all of the DBZ characters and control them with her mind power.
Then there is Apocalypse. He has the ability to change his body into anything, a drill, a hammer, etc. His strength and technique can get at any DBZ fighter.
Plus, cannonball can withstand damage while using his powers. Surprising as it is, this happens to be true (and I find it wierd) .
Let's not forget Mystiques ability to change into another being, which is so precise, everything is exactly the same. She could change into Goku, and they would have to kill one of them to to try and get rid of her... although, I'm not sure if she could duplicate the power readings.
Emma Frost is also essential to the battle. Along with the ability to become somewhat invincible with one of her powers intact, she can manipulate the minds of others to make them change their thought of what to do. This could effect the battle in a lot of ways.
Then Juggernaut. he could win the battle, as he is unsusceptible to Physical attacks of any kind, and can never be stopped in his pace, but only be slowed down. He is only affected by psiotic attack but only with his helmet off.
Mr. Sinister is immortal due to his genius in biotics and genetics. He is able to rearrange his molecules to change his shape, size, appearance, everything, and has superhuman strength along with an accelerated healing factor.

If you need more people to agrue about, I've gots a list. I just don't want you all to get bored.

Nantuko Joe · 10-16-2002, 10:42 AM

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Trust me, Piccolo, throwing water on Pheonix is not going to do anything at all. Judging by her appearance in the Episodes, she has enough power with mind control to surpass Xavier's even with Cerebro linked with him. Pheonix could just fly over all of the DBZ characters and control them with her mind power.

That is true. If measly Babidi could control Vegeta, Phoenix could prolly control everyone

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Then there is Apocalypse. He has the ability to change his body into anything, a drill, a hammer, etc. His strength and technique can get at any DBZ fighter.

I already gave props to Apocalypse. He'd be deadly

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Plus, cannonball can withstand damage while using his powers. Surprising as it is, this happens to be true (and I find it wierd) .

I'm pretty sure he wont' be able to withstand all the damage from a super-strong attack like the Renzoku Senkoudan or Biku Band

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Let's not forget Mystiques ability to change into another being, which is so precise, everything is exactly the same. She could change into Goku, and they would have to kill one of them to to try and get rid of her... although, I'm not sure if she could duplicate the power readings.

She can imitate the enemy's physiology, but not their powers. If Mystique transformed into Goku, not only would she not be able to raise her power level, but she wouldn't have any of his abilities, nor the ability to fly

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Emma Frost is also essential to the battle. Along with the ability to become somewhat invincible with one of her powers intact, she can manipulate the minds of others to make them change their thought of what to do. This could effect the battle in a lot of ways.

She can't stay invincible forever. And she can't manipulate the minds of 6 fighters at the same time. At some point in there, she'd be destroyed by a Z fighter

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Then Juggernaut. he could win the battle, as he is unsusceptible to Physical attacks of any kind, and can never be stopped in his pace, but only be slowed down. He is only affected by psiotic attack but only with his helmet off.

Juggernaut...pfft. Compared to the strength of any Saiya-jin Z fighter (except Goten and Trunks), Juggernaut is a wuss. The Z fighters can punch ppl down into the ground and they'd make a crater a mile deep. Juggernaut doesn't have that much power. He could be stopped easily. and I'm pretty sure that any Z fighter could simply crush that measly metal helmet and rip it off. Then he would be susceptible to mental attack

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Mr. Sinister is immortal due to his genius in biotics and genetics. He is able to rearrange his molecules to change his shape, size, appearance, everything, and has superhuman strength along with an accelerated healing factor.

He's not immortal...he could be killed. As you remember, he is susceptable to the optic blasts of lowly Cyclops. I'm pretty sure that if he is blown to miniscule bits, he can't regenerate himself.

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If you need more people to agrue about, I've gots a list. I just don't want you all to get bored.

Bring it on

Roll · 10-16-2002, 11:09 AM

Goody! I'm getting out your good arguing side! *giggles*

Now let's see...
How about Shadowcat? She has the ability to to slide through solid matter by negotiating the spaces between atoms. This effect can go to her clothing, and any objects or beings that touch her. (which means punches and physical attacks along with certain ki mean nothing to her. :biggrin: ) And while intangable, she can walk on air, and pass through electricity, etc.

Toad is very very different. He has a unique ability to hop very far, which probably wouldn't help him at all, if he didn't have the ability to produce a substance that can paralyze his victims.

Colossus has the ability to turn his body tissue into a metallic substance that is believed to be steel and osmium. That belief is still unknown to be true, but what is known, is that in increases his strength and durability.

Domino is a mutant with psionic control over luck-altering probability fields, stacking the odds in her favor. In other words, never play poker with her! :biggrin:

And finally the baddest one I can think of, Onslaught. Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of progenitors Professor X and Magneto. He could induce illusions, temporary mental or physical paralysis, loss of specific memories, or total amnesia; project mind-numbing mental bolts; and sense the presence of mutants within a small radius. Also, Onslaught was able to shape and manipulate magnetic fields, both natural and artificial. Using his powers to augment his strength, he could lift up to 100 tons. Other abilities included telekinesis and astral projection.

Tidus2K2 · 10-16-2002, 11:10 AM

X-men VS DBZ

LOL I don't know how you can think for a second that x-men would have a chance of winning the fight. Let me tell you one thing. They are all mutants. Humans but with an extra technique that makes them unique.

Now one thing that I always wonder about is how could DBZ characters give in to mind control. Don't you think they'll have the common sense to teleport and blow their controllers head of before it's in full effect.

LOL jugggernaut is a big joke. I'll just put broily against this guy. All the Z fighters fought broily and barely stood a chance because nothing was affecting him. If Juggernat comes with an attack to hit broily with broily would just grab his arm and throm him into the wind. I just wanna know 1 tactic that juggernaut would use to get a DBZ character. He's to big to be fast enough to catch them so it's a kick in the butt for him.

The only advantage that the whole x-men team has is sheer numbers. Counting all the teams they're affiliated with the number goes over 400.

Still I think DBZ will win only because if any of those guys piss vegeta of it's goodbye for the planet and it's inhabitants.

Roll · 10-16-2002, 11:18 AM

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ost_uid0="Tidus2K2"]Now one thing that I always wonder about is how could DBZ characters give in to mind control. Don't you think they'll have the common sense to teleport and blow their controllers head of before it's in full effect.[/quote]
Um, could Vegeta teleport away from the mind control when Babadi was using his mind control? No. Babadi was able to manipulate Vegeta, and he was a very weak magician. Therefore, mind manipulation is very easy to do against the DBZ characters.

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LOL jugggernaut is a big joke. I'll just put broily against this guy. All the Z fighters fought broily and barely stood a chance because nothing was affecting him. If Juggernat comes with an attack to hit broily with broily would just grab his arm and throm him into the wind. I just wanna know 1 tactic that juggernaut would use to get a DBZ character. He's to big to be fast enough to catch them so it's a kick in the butt for him.

Once again, Brolly is not even acceptable in this fight, so this argument is totally off because of it. Don't take this the wrong way though. I didn't make the rules.

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I still say DBZ would win because if they piss off Vegeta blah blah blah blah

I noticed that you over-estimate Vegeta's abilities in this fight. He would be manipulated to forgetting a lot of things (Like how to fight) by Onslaught, or he might just kill himself after being manipulated by Pheonix.

raidus · 10-16-2002, 11:21 AM

Sigh, X-men could take all the DBZ characters... if I havent said it enough times, DBZ would get owned by gambit, their Ki would be useless... and Cyclops and Gambit could just sit and shoot at them, Wolverine could go close range, and what dbz attacks wont do anything to him, because he heals himself, in the comics Magneto has the ability to use the iron in your blood to your disadvantage, so if we go by comics they would all die. Nightcrawler has more speed than the DBZ chars cause he can just simply teleport. Shadowcat can just own them good, cause their attacks wont hurt her. Storm could slow the DBZ guys down quite abit with her powers, which leaves them to a disadvantage.

Roll · 10-16-2002, 11:23 AM

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ost_uid0="raidus"]Sigh, X-men could take all the DBZ characters... if I havent said it enough times, DBZ would get owned by gambit, their Ki would be useless... and Cyclops and Gambit could just sit and shoot at them, Wolverine could go close range, and what dbz attacks wont do anything to him, because he heals himself, in the comics Magneto has the ability to use the iron in your blood to your disadvantage, so if we go by comics they would all die. Nightcrawler has more speed than the DBZ chars cause he can just simply teleport. Shadowcat can just own them good, cause their attacks wont hurt her. Storm could slow the DBZ guys down quite abit with her powers, which leaves them to a disadvantage.[/quote]
I'm all for saying that X-Men will win, but you're forgetting to state full agruments of what they could do. Cyclops optic blast isn't strong enough to fend off all the DBZ characters, Gambit can only control raw energy, so that won't help against Ki, Wolverine's healing ability isn't THAT FAST, and if they blew his arm or leg off, he wouldn't be able to heal that, Nightcrawler is fast because of his teleporting, but his normal running speeds are slow-ish, Shadow cat cannot pass through ALL attacks, only physical, solid, and a few certain ki attacks, Storm is just a woman who controls the elements of the earth in storms, typhoons, hurricanes, blizzards, etc. I admit that is good, but it wouldn't stop everyone.

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10-16-2002, 06:27 AM	#62
ajtimbs Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: GA Posts: 291 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	x men vs dbz? ??? o i see i don't like dbz i like x men and pokemon and yu-gi-ho __________________ [IMG]C:\WINDOWS\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\TV7N5PCE\pocketmonstersruby_gba_ ss03[1].jpg[/IMG] new pokemon new thing to do but it's not in usa

10-16-2002, 10:34 AM	#64
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Trust me, Piccolo, throwing water on Pheonix is not going to do anything at all. Judging by her appearance in the Episodes, she has enough power with mind control to surpass Xavier's even with Cerebro linked with him. Pheonix could just fly over all of the DBZ characters and control them with her mind power. Then there is Apocalypse. He has the ability to change his body into anything, a drill, a hammer, etc. His strength and technique can get at any DBZ fighter. Plus, cannonball can withstand damage while using his powers. Surprising as it is, this happens to be true (and I find it wierd) . Let's not forget Mystiques ability to change into another being, which is so precise, everything is exactly the same. She could change into Goku, and they would have to kill one of them to to try and get rid of her... although, I'm not sure if she could duplicate the power readings. Emma Frost is also essential to the battle. Along with the ability to become somewhat invincible with one of her powers intact, she can manipulate the minds of others to make them change their thought of what to do. This could effect the battle in a lot of ways. Then Juggernaut. he could win the battle, as he is unsusceptible to Physical attacks of any kind, and can never be stopped in his pace, but only be slowed down. He is only affected by psiotic attack but only with his helmet off. Mr. Sinister is immortal due to his genius in biotics and genetics. He is able to rearrange his molecules to change his shape, size, appearance, everything, and has superhuman strength along with an accelerated healing factor. If you need more people to agrue about, I've gots a list. I just don't want you all to get bored. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

10-16-2002, 11:09 AM	#66
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Goody! I'm getting out your good arguing side! giggles Now let's see... How about Shadowcat? She has the ability to to slide through solid matter by negotiating the spaces between atoms. This effect can go to her clothing, and any objects or beings that touch her. (which means punches and physical attacks along with certain ki mean nothing to her. :biggrin: ) And while intangable, she can walk on air, and pass through electricity, etc. Toad is very very different. He has a unique ability to hop very far, which probably wouldn't help him at all, if he didn't have the ability to produce a substance that can paralyze his victims. Colossus has the ability to turn his body tissue into a metallic substance that is believed to be steel and osmium. That belief is still unknown to be true, but what is known, is that in increases his strength and durability. Domino is a mutant with psionic control over luck-altering probability fields, stacking the odds in her favor. In other words, never play poker with her! :biggrin: And finally the baddest one I can think of, Onslaught. Onslaught possessed the combined mutant abilities of progenitors Professor X and Magneto. He could induce illusions, temporary mental or physical paralysis, loss of specific memories, or total amnesia; project mind-numbing mental bolts; and sense the presence of mutants within a small radius. Also, Onslaught was able to shape and manipulate magnetic fields, both natural and artificial. Using his powers to augment his strength, he could lift up to 100 tons. Other abilities included telekinesis and astral projection. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

10-16-2002, 11:10 AM	#67
Tidus2K2 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 547 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	X-men VS DBZ LOL I don't know how you can think for a second that x-men would have a chance of winning the fight. Let me tell you one thing. They are all mutants. Humans but with an extra technique that makes them unique. Now one thing that I always wonder about is how could DBZ characters give in to mind control. Don't you think they'll have the common sense to teleport and blow their controllers head of before it's in full effect. LOL jugggernaut is a big joke. I'll just put broily against this guy. All the Z fighters fought broily and barely stood a chance because nothing was affecting him. If Juggernat comes with an attack to hit broily with broily would just grab his arm and throm him into the wind. I just wanna know 1 tactic that juggernaut would use to get a DBZ character. He's to big to be fast enough to catch them so it's a kick in the butt for him. The only advantage that the whole x-men team has is sheer numbers. Counting all the teams they're affiliated with the number goes over 400. Still I think DBZ will win only because if any of those guys piss vegeta of it's goodbye for the planet and it's inhabitants. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6406/sign1vt.jpg[/img:sig_uid]

10-16-2002, 06:44 AM	#63
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	If you have nothing intelligent to say, then don't say anything

10-16-2002, 11:21 AM	#69
raidus Member New Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 68 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Sigh, X-men could take all the DBZ characters... if I havent said it enough times, DBZ would get owned by gambit, their Ki would be useless... and Cyclops and Gambit could just sit and shoot at them, Wolverine could go close range, and what dbz attacks wont do anything to him, because he heals himself, in the comics Magneto has the ability to use the iron in your blood to your disadvantage, so if we go by comics they would all die. Nightcrawler has more speed than the DBZ chars cause he can just simply teleport. Shadowcat can just own them good, cause their attacks wont hurt her. Storm could slow the DBZ guys down quite abit with her powers, which leaves them to a disadvantage. __________________ "Dreams Never Die"

10-16-2002, 11:23 AM	#70
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="raidus"]Sigh, X-men could take all the DBZ characters... if I havent said it enough times, DBZ would get owned by gambit, their Ki would be useless... and Cyclops and Gambit could just sit and shoot at them, Wolverine could go close range, and what dbz attacks wont do anything to him, because he heals himself, in the comics Magneto has the ability to use the iron in your blood to your disadvantage, so if we go by comics they would all die. Nightcrawler has more speed than the DBZ chars cause he can just simply teleport. Shadowcat can just own them good, cause their attacks wont hurt her. Storm could slow the DBZ guys down quite abit with her powers, which leaves them to a disadvantage.[/quote] I'm all for saying that X-Men will win, but you're forgetting to state full agruments of what they could do. Cyclops optic blast isn't strong enough to fend off all the DBZ characters, Gambit can only control raw energy, so that won't help against Ki, Wolverine's healing ability isn't THAT FAST, and if they blew his arm or leg off, he wouldn't be able to heal that, Nightcrawler is fast because of his teleporting, but his normal running speeds are slow-ish, Shadow cat cannot pass through ALL attacks, only physical, solid, and a few certain ki attacks, Storm is just a woman who controls the elements of the earth in storms, typhoons, hurricanes, blizzards, etc. I admit that is good, but it wouldn't stop everyone. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..