Rock vs rap - Ye ole debate

[DanYankees]

Let's see...what is there to say...

I think just about everything has been covered.

I admire how rap artists speak so fast and manage to come up with those witty ryhmes, but I must agree with Selvin with the inappropriate phrases and seizure dancing. I found the seizure dancing comment pretty funny...by the way what happened to Missy Elliot--she get the fat sucked outta her?

Anyway to be a rapper one does have to have a lot of talent, but it's not singing. I prefer singing over talking when I listen to music, so I prefer rock over rap.

weezer!

[Selvin]

those rock guys dont dance any better all they do is throw there hair around and jump into mosh pits and such, for example a certain Andrew W.K.....

You're right on that. I think if I meet Andrew W.K. I'd probably run.

I remember when Rock was commercial, there was guys with long hair, chicks dancing around the band members, guys on face paint and rock stars doing heroin. Now that was how rock was when it " WAS POPULAR" and you would see people wearing what the rock stars were wearing.

Not nessacarily (sp). Rock's popular days were around Nirvana and the Grunge moment. I didn't see chicks dancing up and down in grunge videos and grunge was the thing at the time.

Then you going to make a topic that says "Why is Rock so stupid" because really the best talent is really hidden. Almost none of the bands that you have mentioned and stuff i dont even know? Its because you dont like commercial Rock, you like the underground stuff is dosent get much publicity.

Uhh, how do I put this. I do like mainstream rock. Some of my favourite bands are on Top 40 radio.

And you cant say im a Rock hater because i know how to play the guitar, i like spanish rock. It might not be the same languege but its the same stuff just not in english. I like Jaguares, Molotov, Caradura, Enanitos Verdes, Brujeria, control machete and a buch of music. So im not ignorent to the music, is why i dont hate on rock because i actually know what it is about.

I'd never call you a rock hater because you make up your opinions instead of just sayin "RoCk iS gAy"

[KidKrazyShit]

"Rappers are rockers you've gone retarded"

I'm not sure if any of this has been said, b/c I'm not going to go through 5 pages of posts. Most of hit is more than likely just flamming anyway.

I never understood how rappers just drop their values, and become a rapper. There is no skill to it, but the skill to talk too fast, and use woman to catch the eye of the listener/viewer, b/c they know their lyrics won't.

What's up with those stupid ass platnium teeth? Do they think that looks cool? makes them look like trash.
Why are their clothes always hanging half way off their ass's? gay...just...gay.
Most of them just cover old songs from the 70s and 80s. It's not that hard to write your own lyrics.
du rags? bandana's? What's wrong with these ppl?

and the almighty question...."Where in the hell did they learn to talk???"

:buttrock:

[SBYRD5]

Real Rappers are poets that show there lifestlyes or feelings through words that have a rhyme to them.

Those guys you see KKS are just stupid ass posers.

Yes, a mouth full of metal...is some stupid S.H.I.T.

Ebonics, is a lazy way to talk unless you understand Ghetto talk you shouldn't comment.

Du Rags=Have a very good use KKS it helps produce styling hair for african americans.You know waves,or when someone has cornrolls......useless for cajuns to wear s it seems useless to you.

Bandanas=Symbolize gangs...that is the only use for them....and they match good with some clothes....

People become rappers because it's a dream to be famous......also some people drop out of school,and look at rap as there only chance for QUICK MAJOR success.



Rockers...Every rocker I've seen tell there lifestyles or story in a way that matches there tempo...must rockers I've seen carry a guitar....or maybe thats just something I've only seen.





Oh to make this interesting I'm joining the losing side..... ROCK...*dumdumDUM* :lookaround:

***Tupacwestsider,and gang SMACKS THE HELL OUT OF SBYRD5****

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[SBYRD5]

I know what will turn this debate around....

"GUNS AND ROSES".

I mean atleast the in Gun and Roses wore a KFC container over his head,and not pull up his pant leg.

PULLING UP ONE PANT LEG=This means another man owns you....so unless your a girl....all you rap lovers should stop with that...because it makes you look like your attracted to mean....this is fact.

Oh and tupac great points.

(This is fun) :laughlong:

[SolidSnake76]

well sby, unless sum1 becomes the next tupac, what KKS said, thats what pple are gonna think of rappers.

[tupac2westsider]

Well as i said, its just a trend right now. but later it will all be gone, and we are going to be old guys dressed all G'ed out while our children will be lisening to Futuristic music.

Then Old Selvin will make a topic "Rock Vs. Futuristic Music, Ye old debate".

I think most of you are judging due to ignorence. All that youve seen of rap is what you see in Main Stream. When rock was getting off people were all against Rock.

It all starts off in the 50's after the war and sub-burbs were just getting started in the east and were going strong to the west. Teenagers that were living in the sub-burbs felt bored after moving out of the city having nothing to do. Well there was this new craze sweeping the nation throw the radio named "Rock'N'Roll" and a new artist has pop his ugly face, "Elvis the Pelvis". Parents automaticly thought it was evil because of the way he moved his hips, looked, and signed. Even tho this started the wave of new music all over the nations for years to come.

The reason of this little leason is.............

There will aways be haters to music, rock or rap. Its nothing new that parents or that one bitch "tippy gore" will be against the new genaration of youth that comes out. Rap's genaration is right now, rocks was about 20 years ago.

If you understand where rap came from and what it actually means to the "Black community" you would understand more what Rap actually is. 100 years of diversity, racisum, political activists and slavery has made rap what it is today(not what you see on TV). Rap is a combination of Gospel, Blues, and poetry.

You guys see WAY TO MUCH TV!!!!!!!!!!! When i hear about Rock stars and there crazy stories of "Money, Groupies, Drugs, Backstage parties and lots of sex" thats all people see of rock to. Rap isnt the only ones that have a bad rep, rock also is in the problem but its just not as main stream no more.

[asshole]

TuPac, that was probably the best giving explanation in this whole Thread!

But there are some Mistakes you made...
I don't hate RaP because it is COMMERCIAL raP, I hate it because of the lyrics..

But then again, if you look at it from my View, I also hate a LOT tyPes of Rock..
I mean a LOT!!!

And I also DO like raP still(yes, iot's a big surPrise), so I'm not saying which is better cuz it's ONLY my oPinion, but I "ENJOY" Rock more!

[tupac2westsider]

[quoteost_uid0="asshole"]TuPac, that was probably the best giving explanation in this whole Thread!

But there are some Mistakes you made...
I don't hate RaP because it is COMMERCIAL raP, I hate it because of the lyrics..

But then again, if you look at it from my View, I also hate a LOT tyPes of Rock..
I mean a LOT!!!

And I also DO like raP still(yes, iot's a big surPrise), so I'm not saying which is better cuz it's ONLY my oPinion, but I "ENJOY" Rock more![/quote]
I understand the lyrics are bad, i dont know if anyone has told you but "I FREAKEN HATE ALL OF THIS COMMERCIAL RAP STUFF!!!!!!" Like.............

Ludacris
Cash Money
Eminem
Etc.
Etc.
Etc.

Thats what the "bubble gum" affect takes place im main stream. The gum(or song) tastes good for a little while, but then it loses its flavor and you throw it way. Thats the kind of wack rap, but its popular because we are going through the Rap Era. One day this "Rap Era" will be gone and dead, but some how the true meaning of rap will always be around.

You can hate one rap, just keep in mind that it will never be around for a long time. I remember when "House Music" was around :laugh:

That #### sucked as hell, everyone always liked to buy this one CD that eveyone had "house'o Holics" lol :laugh: