Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga) - Page 59

Roll · 11-07-2002, 09:17 PM

*sighs* I finally decided to swallow my pride and risk getting called names. Now... the following is just something I thought about over the last few nights in my spare time.

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ost_uid6]Over the last few nights, I was thinking about what someone (name is my secret) was talking to me about SF. That person said that a lot of the SF Characters were overpowerful (or had an added something) than they should've really been (or underpowered) in MvC2. However, they believe that the SF characters that where over-powered could've reached that state of power if they under-went the correct training. Those characters were: Akuma, Cammy(without air jumping), Chunli(without air jumping), Ken, Ryu, and Sakura. The other people that were underpowered, however, were M.Bison and Charlie. Going by that, I wonder if that would add a new piece to this debate. I mean, that would increase their strengths for this debate, and therefore change it![/color

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But... for that part... I need someone for that...

SBYRD5 · 11-08-2002, 12:13 PM

This may sound foolish,but don't forget the eternal Dragon of Earth,and New Namek.I think the Z fighters have an over weighing adventage.

Oh, sorry is this debate over.Hmm Roll's statement looks interesting...that could change a few things.

Nantuko Joe · 11-08-2002, 02:39 PM

Quote:

I still don't see how DB would win

Not only the dragons from the Dragonballs, but I've found an even BIGGER advantage for DBZ, one that will allow them to WIN, and they CANNOT LOSE.

In the Ma-jin Buu saga, King Enmma simply lets Vegeta return to earth to fight Ma-jin Buu. Therefore, if ANY of the DBZ fighters are killed, Enmma will simply allow them to return to earth and keep fighting, continuing this as many times as possible. THis way, the DBZ characters gain a sort of immortality, and can NEVER be defeated.

SBYRD5 · 11-09-2002, 01:53 AM

Well with that last statement said.
This debate is offically over now...or is it. :shocked:

Gotenks13 · 11-09-2002, 08:45 AM

I wonder if Enma can makw Gill stay in his world...I doubt it, but its worth a try.

Roll · 11-09-2002, 12:53 PM

Yeah, Nantuko, he could... if he weren't bound to the rules. As you know, he had no choice BUT to allow Vegeta to go back into the living plain (sp?) so he could fight against Buu. This was because the entire universe was in trouble. He can't just make people go back to life it's just a fight they are in. The SF's aren't threatening the entire universe (or the earth for that matter) in any way, and therefore, they wouldn't NEED to come back to life to defend anything. Of course, this is just something that came up while I was beating Cable with Roll in MvC2... feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

Nantuko Joe · 11-09-2002, 04:22 PM

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ost_uid0="Roll"]Yeah, Nantuko, he could... if he weren't bound to the rules. As you know, he had no choice BUT to allow Vegeta to go back into the living plain (sp?) so he could fight against Buu. This was because the entire universe was in trouble. He can't just make people go back to life it's just a fight they are in. The SF's aren't threatening the entire universe (or the earth for that matter) in any way, and therefore, they wouldn't NEED to come back to life to defend anything. Of course, this is just something that came up while I was beating Cable with Roll in MvC2... feel free to correct me if I am wrong.[/quote]
If I were Enma, I would have let Buu destroy the universe. That way, once I check everyone into heaven and hell, i could retire and not deal with anymore deaths.

But Enma didn't HAVE TO send back Vegeta. He did so just so the earth could be saved. Enma makes the rules. He can just as easily unmake them, becase theres no one to stop him

Roll · 11-09-2002, 04:40 PM

Then that would mean he would be changing the rules of life and death. The dead would be able to go everywhere, even to the living plain if he changed the rules. And making rules that only affect a certain party is unfair to the unaffected, so it's doubtful he'd even try changing the rules (since it could be the downfall of his career).

Nantuko Joe · 11-09-2002, 05:33 PM

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ost_uid0="Roll"]Then that would mean he would be changing the rules of life and death. The dead would be able to go everywhere, even to the living plain if he changed the rules. And making rules that only affect a certain party is unfair to the unaffected, so it's doubtful he'd even try changing the rules (since it could be the downfall of his career).[/quote]
No, he can choose who he allows to go. Remember, he's the lord of the afterlife. He can allow the DBZ warriors to return if he wishes, but if any of the SF fighters die, he can detain them, refusing to let them back. It's his choice, it doesn't have to be fair.

SBYRD5 · 11-09-2002, 08:46 PM

This only concludes that DBZ fighters own the Street Fighters.

I think Roll made an interesting point earlier in this page maybe one of you should comment on that.

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11-07-2002, 09:17 PM	#581
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	sighs I finally decided to swallow my pride and risk getting called names. Now... the following is just something I thought about over the last few nights in my spare time. [color=skyblueost_uid6]Over the last few nights, I was thinking about what someone (name is my secret) was talking to me about SF. That person said that a lot of the SF Characters were overpowerful (or had an added something) than they should've really been (or underpowered) in MvC2. However, they believe that the SF characters that where over-powered could've reached that state of power if they under-went the correct training. Those characters were: Akuma, Cammy(without air jumping), Chunli(without air jumping), Ken, Ryu, and Sakura. The other people that were underpowered, however, were M.Bison and Charlie. Going by that, I wonder if that would add a new piece to this debate. I mean, that would increase their strengths for this debate, and therefore change it![/colorost_uid6] But... for that part... I need someone for that... __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

11-09-2002, 08:45 AM	#585
Gotenks13 Senior Member Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Alabama sucks...I'm movin' to Florida when I graduate... Posts: 326 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I wonder if Enma can makw Gill stay in his world...I doubt it, but its worth a try. __________________ O6' MUTHA SMUCKA!!!!!

11-09-2002, 12:53 PM	#586
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Yeah, Nantuko, he could... if he weren't bound to the rules. As you know, he had no choice BUT to allow Vegeta to go back into the living plain (sp?) so he could fight against Buu. This was because the entire universe was in trouble. He can't just make people go back to life it's just a fight they are in. The SF's aren't threatening the entire universe (or the earth for that matter) in any way, and therefore, they wouldn't NEED to come back to life to defend anything. Of course, this is just something that came up while I was beating Cable with Roll in MvC2... feel free to correct me if I am wrong. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

11-08-2002, 12:13 PM	#582
SBYRD5 Banned Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6,549 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	This may sound foolish,but don't forget the eternal Dragon of Earth,and New Namek.I think the Z fighters have an over weighing adventage. Oh, sorry is this debate over.Hmm Roll's statement looks interesting...that could change a few things.

11-09-2002, 01:53 AM	#584
SBYRD5 Banned Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6,549 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Well with that last statement said. This debate is offically over now...or is it. :shocked:

11-09-2002, 04:22 PM	#587
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Roll"]Yeah, Nantuko, he could... if he weren't bound to the rules. As you know, he had no choice BUT to allow Vegeta to go back into the living plain (sp?) so he could fight against Buu. This was because the entire universe was in trouble. He can't just make people go back to life it's just a fight they are in. The SF's aren't threatening the entire universe (or the earth for that matter) in any way, and therefore, they wouldn't NEED to come back to life to defend anything. Of course, this is just something that came up while I was beating Cable with Roll in MvC2... feel free to correct me if I am wrong.[/quote] If I were Enma, I would have let Buu destroy the universe. That way, once I check everyone into heaven and hell, i could retire and not deal with anymore deaths. But Enma didn't HAVE TO send back Vegeta. He did so just so the earth could be saved. Enma makes the rules. He can just as easily unmake them, becase theres no one to stop him

11-09-2002, 04:40 PM	#588
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Then that would mean he would be changing the rules of life and death. The dead would be able to go everywhere, even to the living plain if he changed the rules. And making rules that only affect a certain party is unfair to the unaffected, so it's doubtful he'd even try changing the rules (since it could be the downfall of his career). __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

11-09-2002, 05:33 PM	#589
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Roll"]Then that would mean he would be changing the rules of life and death. The dead would be able to go everywhere, even to the living plain if he changed the rules. And making rules that only affect a certain party is unfair to the unaffected, so it's doubtful he'd even try changing the rules (since it could be the downfall of his career).[/quote] No, he can choose who he allows to go. Remember, he's the lord of the afterlife. He can allow the DBZ warriors to return if he wishes, but if any of the SF fighters die, he can detain them, refusing to let them back. It's his choice, it doesn't have to be fair.

11-09-2002, 08:46 PM	#590
SBYRD5 Banned Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 6,549 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	This only concludes that DBZ fighters own the Street Fighters. I think Roll made an interesting point earlier in this page maybe one of you should comment on that.