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Old 11-04-2002, 02:09 PM   #561
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If this is a 2 on 2, then Shin Bison/Twelve faces off against Buu, so Buu is too much into Shin Bison/Twelve, and the Gill fights Vegetto.
This isn't a video-game or Tenkaichi Budoukai-type matchup. This is a frigging all-out brawl.

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There would be someone busy against Kaiobito(Shin Akuma), and remember that his energy goes down whenever he teleports, and also, Akuma can teleport, so he can prevent Kaiobito from coming to Gill.
Like above, this is an all-out brawl. And it is indeedly possible that Akuma could have been killed early on by someone such as SSJ3 Goku or Gotenks.

So far in this debate, we're only down to Gill remaining, and we're ONLY debating methods of removing GIll from the fight. Tark, you and vegetam have already admitted that everyone would be killed by the Z fighters except for Gill. For the past few pages, we have been debating about Gill, and no one else. Therefore, we must assume that the rest of the SF team has already either been killed or KOd


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The Genki-dama completely destroyed Buu, The Genki-dama is like a burning, and electric substance(it looks electric in the Saiya-jin saga, and it looks like it's burning Freiza's hand in the Freiza saga).
That's because Furiza had an "evil" ki. As you all know, the Genki Dama draws energy from sources of "good" ki. Therefore, it would naturally be able to singe Furiza's hands.

WHen Buu regenerated from Gotenks' Kamikaze Attacks, it was because Buu and Gotenks were roughly at the same power level. Therefore, Gotenks' blasts didn't affect him as much as the Genki Dama. WHen Goku formed the Genki Dama taht destroyed BUu, it contained the energy of ALL THE HUMANS AND OTHER LIFE, and therefore was stronger than Buu in pure measure of energy. THAT is why the Genki Dama killed Buu.


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Tark, you could simply create a boomspeed.com account and upload the pics yourself

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He can heal himself even if he is KOed.
Yes. HOwever, when he heals himself, it DOES NOT restore his lost energy, does it? It's kind of like Piccolo's Sai Sei. It regenerates his lost limbs, but does NOT restore any lost energy

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Yeah, true, but Gill's soul will stay, and Gill can fight with his soul(with even more power).
Not quite. Since the body is the soul's vessel through life, his soul will be transported to the afterlife along with the body. Although Gill will not be dead (since he's a deity), neither his body nor his soul will be able to escape the afterlife and back into the normal dimension

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It was stated in the manga, the beginning of the Buu saga when Goku is training in the afterlife.
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Hmm... I thought I quoted this, anyways, yeah Kaiobito's teleport is much faster than Akuma's, but Shin Bison's teleport is instant.
As is Kaio-/Kibito's Kai Kai and Goku's Shunkan Idou. They are both teleportations that allow them to traverse great distances WITHOUT the passage of time. Goku's Shunkan Idou seems to take longer because he is busy trying to find the ki target

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I'll have to figure something out, for now, your winning.
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Yes. HOwever, when he heals himself, it DOES NOT restore his lost energy, does it? It's kind of like Piccolo's Sai Sei. It regenerates his lost limbs, but does NOT restore any lost energy
It restores ALL his energy.

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Not quite. Since the body is the soul's vessel through life, his soul will be transported to the afterlife along with the body. Although Gill will not be dead (since he's a deity), neither his body nor his soul will be able to escape the afterlife and back into the normal dimension
Gill's soul remains, Gill can't go to the afterlife(shown against Akuma). WHile his body can, his soul can't, because his body is immortal.



Okay, I found a way to counter the Buu's putty. Gill flies up in the air, really high. So his "putty" can't get him. I still haven't found a way to counter Gills distraction of Vegetto, and Buu's Henka beam, so I guess your still winning.
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tarkan x after reading that link you gave me there doesn't seem to be any part that says gill is immortal, it just stays that he's EXTREMELY powerful, but nothing about him being an immortal. it says that everytime his body is destroyed, his organization has to make a body for gill's soul
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Read your last sentence, Vegetam.
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exactly, so there's no part that says gill can fight with his soul
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And what can wandering souls do..? :biggrin:
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???

um... what? what CAN they do?
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It restores ALL his energy.
How is that possible? So, that's basically like saying he can never run out of energy, because if he gets low, he can just use an energy-based move to restore his energy? I don't think that's right, man

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Gill's soul remains, Gill can't go to the afterlife(shown against Akuma). WHile his body can, his soul can't, because his body is immortal.
That's not true, according to what princevegetam found out...

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Okay, I found a way to counter the Buu's putty. Gill flies up in the air, really high. So his "putty" can't get him. I still haven't found a way to counter Gills distraction of Vegetto, and Buu's Henka beam, so I guess your still winning.
Not if he, once again, gets caught off-guard, just like Gotenks and Piccolo were. Gotenks had no idea that the attack was coming, and he still couldn't fight back against it. If the attack hit Buu from one or two sides, it could surprise him long enough for the putty to wrap around him. Once it does that, it's all over

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tarkan x after reading that link you gave me there doesn't seem to be any part that says gill is immortal, it just stays that he's EXTREMELY powerful, but nothing about him being an immortal. it says that everytime his body is destroyed, his organization has to make a body for gill's soul
Sweet, man. THerefore, the organization that provides Gill with bodies is prolly made up of humans, who can be killed by even the lowest DBZ fighter. Therefore, Gill's body dies, but he has no body to go into. His spirit wanders the earth as a ghost

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And what can wandering souls do..?
They can "haunt" old mansions, scare old ladies and children, have wild urban legends started about them, and that's pretty much it.
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This once-interesting debate has become a travesty. I am ducking out. It is just repetitive nonsense instead of the original and interesting perspectives once shown here.
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