How many people from 2001 post - I mean post often,

[TarkanX]

Also the best part is IT WAS ALL RYU VS RYU 1 ON 1! XD

01d 2cHoo1 > j00!!!1111

During the first TOC tournament the first clans were created.

Actually, the first clans were created before TOC, it was during Ryu's Drunken Brawl.

I think fear-tetsuo won the best out of 5 but got disqualified for cheating. TarkanX had the special red ryu with the special sentinel who used to run all over the screen. I think it was taken away from him during the release of N.O.T.S (Night of the Sentinels)...

The Red Ryu and Red Sentinel were taken away from me before the start of TOC3, which was at the same time as the jump lock implention.

When TMyApp released TAG mode i was excited to see how it came out. When i entered the game i found out how much it changed.. IN A BAD WAY... The lag was probably the worst lag i ever saw.. I was beating the elite fighters like they have just signed in the game... Then tmyapp fixed most bugs and lag and put it back to *normal* well at least a lil close to *normal* tag mode scared away alot of vets making them retire for good.

It didn't scare away the vets, we hated it, because it was too slow. It wasn't the fast paced action that we were keen to, and it was very hard to get off your moves. It was like the world's fastest runner having his legs covered in molasses.

ramziel didnt like it. professor didnt like it. he left the game and the shotokan masters. and many other vets had left... Tag Mode was really most of the reason why vets have left the game. (Even though it was one of tmyapp's hardest work) Then people started caring less of the game..

Although tag mode played a big role in the departure of veterans, there are other reasons, like lack of time, etc... Tag Mode (even though TMyApp put so much work into it) really depleted the value of the game. If there was no tag mode, then players like Tantum would be playing this game a lot, instead of never (Tantum even admitted this to me a few days ago). If tag mode was gone, I would still be playing the game on a consistent basis, instead of once a month.

Now that I really think about it... What happened?

Many things....

Who or what caused the slow destruction of the community?

again, many things made the community deteririorate (spelling?). Although people would think it was the ####ies off-head, it's not entirely their fault. If someone who had a great fighitng spirit and never cared for rank, even though he was rank 1 had told and trained the ####ies of the game that rank doesn't mean anything, then the ####ies wouldn't be this bad... sadly, my skills are at waste and no rank 1 (after tag mode) player has done that, or had the time to.

Tag Mode was like an atom bomb, I think that is a good reason (like dominicankid said) why you don't see as many people registered from 2001 or early 2002, and many who are registered from those times don't play the game much.

Disorganization is also another thing. Have you counted how many "tournaments" have been made after TOC3 and how many were successful (almost to the level of TOCI)? Yeah, none; the people that make these so called tournaments don't put in the time and effort to make them good. If you see the old topics in the chalenges and tournaments section, you can see that Zing strained his ass just so that the tournament can be considered the best ever, you don't see many people putting as much work as he did. Hopefully, and for the sake of this community, the World Warrior Tournament can fix this.

ever since tag the vets lost interest in the game... but it just made it a little interesting for me... People would just play tag and just use the power of the variable attack to win games... some would start the game in level 3 to start the variable as soon as the fight begins.. but tmyapp fixed that and now u can only start on level 2 but i think shouldnt be that way... there shouldnt be a choice on what level you start on... mainly because 1. most likely the first supers you throw wont connect so quickly in the game 2. if the player is lucky to get it connected it would be a cheap way to win.

Supers thrown immediately in a match will almost always connect (if it is a beam super), and who cares about cheap wins when your rank goes up?

Now I check out the topscores... and it's like i dont know anybody there.. before top scores were reserved for the top fighters of the game WITH SKILL... but now it is open for any new person who joins the game cause they dont even have to fight the best to get the points... They can go ahead and beat a person ranked 100 about 30 times and you would be in good rank...

It's trully a sad thing. These players have skill, they also have the potential, but they aren't unlocking it, because they aren't fighting players that aren't at their skill level, or even close to it.

At same time people are not making much of an effort to make the game a little more fun... All I see is Liger Zero and pip99 hosting a tournament which is going quite slow.. Then there is tarkanx hosting the world warriors tournament and we will see how he handles that tourney...

We need more effort in this community, fighitng and planning, but we don't have that effort. And it's not exactly my tournament, it's the tournament made by the moderators and some VIP members; we are going to try our best to make this thing better than TOCI, and Dominican, you say that our tournament won't be as good as TOCI, is it because our tournament doesn't have the well praised fighters of the past? Why don't you think this will be as good as TOCI?

And cause of this I am going to make sure to help this game out.. I never contributed to this game.. never donated.. but i know i can contribute in someway. I got to start on my blueprints

If you have plans, AIM me at CenturionMario, and put me on your buddy list. I'm not on everyday, and when I'm on, it's usually at 3:00am EST.

Also, can you tell me what the ranking system was then?

The ranking systems when the game was into its first months wasn't a "battle as much as you can" type rank. Even though it is the same as now (although the first top scores wasn't). The first top scores was basically, who ever had the highest win - loss ratio is rank one, so if I was 15-5, then I would have a ratio of 10, and someone that is 20-15 would have a ratio of 5, luckily, players nowadays didn't play back when the game just started.

Even with the first rank, people fought to better their fighting skills. As more top scores went by, people were fighting more for rank and this was first evident in the 2nd top scores. There was a player by the name of MegaPower21 I don't remember if it was a male or female, but MegaPower21 just kept fighting so much for rank, and it took to the last day before the 3rd ranks started that me and Nferno had to top MegaPower21. We had to stay up through the midnight and play non-stop just to hold that person down. Think of what would happen if MegaPower21 had become first, new players would copy off of MegaPower21's maneuvers of getting rank, and the game would be even worse starting from January 2002.

The rank system got worse with its 3rd rank, people actually started fighting for rank, instead of fighting skills, and form there, it just went downhill. With no one who had the heart to be a great fighter and still be rank 1, there was nothing we could do to stop this tyrrany.

Tournaments.... I dont know what to do about that. If people liked tournaments even when there were no prizes, I dont know why they are dying...

The majority of people nowadays would rather have rank than tournaments, and the tournaments that are made are very sup-bar, and little effort put into them.

I WILL BE THE ONE TO HOST THE FIRST "BE AS CHEAP AS YOU WANT HERE" Tournament.

People have tried these, and they are still doing these things (which means they aren't working). One instance is the no projectile tournament (even though that tournament is still going on, from the looks of things, it looks like it might die out a slow death like Ryu's Drunken Brawl), if you do something like this, even if planned very well, it still might not have the flavor of a "great" tournament.

[coolplayer2K2]

im still here!!!!!!!!!!!

i joined the forum as the username sexyass lol. i donno why.then princevegetam posted porno site i took a pic and posted on the forum and got banned hehehe those where the days. and in the game only true vets remember me from 2001. *cough* dark-link pip99 sports tj5 ect ect *coguh*

adn i still remember when manontherun won toc and he was going like so crazy lol.

i still remmebered the senshutakiablahblahblah forum. it was FILLED with flaming. espeaccilly J-luna. he wud start arguements where ever he goes and he wud always say the Ikari Warriors ownz the Missfits. becuase back then the missfits just started as a guild and they didnt have lots of good ppl like they have now.but how i joined the missfits is when lordgorbyc made one of the best non graphical forum long time ago. the forum had a good community and was growing fast.and back in the day i was a good friend of lordgrobic. so then in the link section CarlMax ( the owner of missfits before Theprankster came) had posted a site and a forum on missfits.and i asked lordgrobycs if he wanted to join the guild. and he said "well it sounds like a good guild, ill give it a try" so he joined first.so then about a month later i joined the guild. since i got better and better pip99 tested me. we had a very good match and it was very close but unfortunatly pip99 won. then he said to me u can join the guild if youcontinue to work harder and practice. so i said to carl max that pip let me in and i joined it. then i was a proud member in the guild. although i wasnt in many guildwars i was in some. and i was in the guild war where we challenged the Ikari Warriors. so it was Ikari Warriors vs The Missfits. and i was vsing J-Luna. that was one of the hardest matches iv ever won. i won 1 round he won the next then it was the 3rd and last round. with me only having so little life left and him having 1/4th of life and there was 12 seconds on the time. i thot i was gonna lose. i was at lvl 2. i superjumped in the back of him and did a shinku hadoken. he blocked and still had like left.
then he super jumped and i stayed where i was. then i did a Super Roundhouse special rite when he came down and he died. i won with only 2 seconds to spare.
so that was one of the proudest moments in my "sfo career"

then kks started making the Wt tournaments. i almost never won. until Wt19 that was the only time i won a tournament.

then i started making new friends in the game like RKELLYNOTGUILTY, sportshcick, superboy, tj5, pip99, lightningstrike,lilgirl14 but the FIRST friend i ever made and the first friend that tought me how to use RYU was ssjxgokusaijin. then he changed his name to Quiet Killer.

he tought me eveeeerything i needed to know. buT the most important thing he tought me is how to go super fast in the game and do specials like when i super jump in the back of the person when i FEEL like he is gonna use his super. he tought me what all the vets at the time were doing like nferno666 pip99 tarkanx and much more.

now there is also pip99. he was proboly the nicest friend a guy cud have. he tought me how to use ryu good and how to be good in tag. once i got really good me and him started doing tagteamed. now i knowed him for being the best tag team with ECW. but when i was tag team with him WE WERE UNSTOPPABLE. we never lost! he knew the perfect time to tag me and he knew the perfectr time to request a tag. those were the great days. And he tought me crossover and variable.

Sports,Superboy,Lightningstrike,tj5,and lilgirl14,RKELLYNOTGUILTY.
these were one of the funniest people i knew. they ALWAYS made me laugh but WE always got in the fights. i was always jelous hwen sports liked superboy and tj5.and a friend from school lilgirl14 she was funny although sports hated her guts. rkellynotguilty was a cool guy and real funny. he never got mad at anyone. and i wud always ask sports for her msn but she never told me. YES THATS RIGHT! i liked sports way before i saw here pic! and lightningstrike liked lilgirl14 and vise versa. lightning strike was like 15 years old and at the time me and lilgirl14 were 8-9. and i was like to lilgirl14 dubya tee effur 8 and a half years old how can u like a guy double ur age?
so ya its true back in the day was real cool unlike now.



Edited By coolplayer2K2 on Aug. 05 2004 at 10:23

[dominicankid098]

I guess I will have to explain why this isn't going to be as successful as TOC. (no disrespect to you tark)

During the time TOC was on, Zing79 had planned the tournament perfectly. His rules made alot of sense and his setup did as well. At that time the game was only 3 months old. So alot of people were still joining the game and when they saw the word *tournaments* they were excited.. everyone would talk about it in the chat.. Zing79 used to send emails to tell you your next match.. and if both opponents didnt show up.. He would make the best rank fighter advance..

Sad to say Tarkan but people are mainly joining your tournament because they got respect for you... they arent really looking forward for this tourney or any tourney. And also the people who do play the game right now have been playin for like the past 6-7 months.. If you check out the chat its always full cause all they do is CHAT..

but I think that if 100 people actually play in this tournament and someone gets the prize.. Then everyone will want to join your next tournament not because of the respect they got the mods but because they want to aim for the prize.

I join this tournament mainly because I want to be in the *greats* list and I want people to recognize me as *the one who won the world warrior tournament* or *very good fighter* but if i dont fix my mouse soon then i cant fight in it

so mainly im trying to say is without the fire in peoples eyes to win the tournaments.. then this contest will really do no good.. look at npt.. its taking them forever to finish there first round.. ZING79 made it only one week to finish your round or your out... and people would actually fight in that one week... so let see how fast your tourney is going to end...



Edited By dominicankid098 on Aug. 06 2004 at 01:18

[shadowdog2244]

You forget, I dont want the prize. I just want to fight, and see if my strategy is more powerful than skill. I dont even want the prize. I just want to be in a tournament. There are a few that are joining for similar reasons, and am happy.

Ok, now I am really gonna finish my HUGE list today. Should I give it to someone like you or Tarkan, or should I post it on the forum like I planned? I havent been playing SFO for 2 days for this, so I hope it is worth it. If you cant respond in time, I will just post it on the forum. So everyone can see.

[TarkanX]

During the time TOC was on, Zing79 had planned the tournament perfectly. His rules made alot of sense and his setup did as well. At that time the game was only 3 months old. So alot of people were still joining the game and when they saw the word *tournaments* they were excited.. everyone would talk about it in the chat.. Zing79 used to send emails to tell you your next match.. and if both opponents didnt show up.. He would make the best rank fighter advance..

Yeah, we are following what Zing did that made this tournament so great, through memory and through old topics. Although these players might not be as wise as the past players, that doesn't mean we will fail, and we will be constantly sending e-mails to every player in the tournament, about their match-ups, info and everything.

Sad to say Tarkan but people are mainly joining your tournament because they got respect for you... they arent really looking forward for this tourney or any tourney. And also the people who do play the game right now have been playin for like the past 6-7 months.. If you check out the chat its always full cause all they do is CHAT..

They aren't playing this because of me, this isn't 2 years ago. Many of the players here haven't heard of me before, unless they look at the rank archive or join the forum. And we will make sure they look forward for this tournament. Again, this might not be the golden days, but that doesn't mean we should quit while we're still going.

so mainly im trying to say is without the fire in peoples eyes to win the tournaments.. then this contest will really do no good.. look at npt.. its taking them forever to finish there first round.. ZING79 made it only one week to finish your round or your out... and people would actually fight in that one week... so let see how fast your tourney is going to end...

Each tournament round is 3 days, and no exceptions, if they don't fight, then it's good bye. Yes, they might not have the fire as before, but with good organization, we can make this tournament great. NPT wasn't well organized (although there were many rules there), NPT was just too rigid and thrown in the air, we are trying to make things so that everything is flexible and in line.

You forget, I dont want the prize. I just want to fight, and see if my strategy is more powerful than skill. I dont even want the prize. I just want to be in a tournament. There are a few that are joining for similar reasons, and am happy.

We need more people like you, if you made up the majority of SFO, then this place wouldn't be as bad as it is. but, if you win the tournament and you don't want the prize, then that is fine, we won't give the prize to you.

Ok, now I am really gonna finish my HUGE list today. Should I give it to someone like you or Tarkan, or should I post it on the forum like I planned? I havent been playing SFO for 2 days for this, so I hope it is worth it. If you cant respond in time, I will just post it on the forum. So everyone can see.

Private Message your idea to me, I might be able to critique it, thanks.

[pip99]

the forum and got banned hehehe those where the days. and in the game only true vets remember me from 2001. *cough* dark-link pip99 sports tj5 ect ect *coguh*

adn i still remember when manontherun won toc and he was going like so crazy lol.

i still remmebered the senshutakiablahblahblah forum. it was FILLED with flaming. espeaccilly J-luna. he wud start arguements where ever he goes and he wud always say the Ikari Warriors ownz the Missfits. becuase back then the missfits just started as a guild and they didnt have lots of good ppl like they have now.but how i joined the missfits is when lordgorbyc made one of the best non graphical forum long time ago. the forum had a good community and was growing fast.and back in the day i was a good friend of lordgrobic. so then in the link section CarlMax ( the owner of missfits before Theprankster came) had posted a site and a forum on missfits.and i asked lordgrobycs if he wanted to join the guild. and he said "well it sounds like a good guild, ill give it a try" so he joined first.so then about a month later i joined the guild. since i got better and better pip99 tested me. we had a very good match and it was very close but unfortunatly pip99 won. then he said to me u can join the guild if youcontinue to work harder and practice. so i said to carl max that pip let me in and i joined it. then i was a proud member in the guild. although i wasnt in many guildwars i was in some. and i was in the guild war where we challenged the Ikari Warriors. so it was Ikari Warriors vs The Missfits. and i was vsing J-Luna. that was one of the hardest matches iv ever won. i won 1 round he won the next then it was the 3rd and last round. with me only having so little life left and him having 1/4th of life and there was 12 seconds on the time. i thot i was gonna lose. i was at lvl 2. i superjumped in the back of him and did a shinku hadoken. he blocked and still had like left.
then he super jumped and i stayed where i was. then i did a Super Roundhouse special rite when he came down and he died. i won with only 2 seconds to spare.
so that was one of the proudest moments in my "sfo career"

then kks started making the Wt tournaments. i almost never won. until Wt19 that was the only time i won a tournament.

then i started making new friends in the game like RKELLYNOTGUILTY, sportshcick, superboy, tj5, pip99, lightningstrike,lilgirl14 but the FIRST friend i ever made and the first friend that tought me how to use RYU was ssjxgokusaijin. then he changed his name to Quiet Killer.

he tought me eveeeerything i needed to know. buT the most important thing he tought me is how to go super fast in the game and do specials like when i super jump in the back of the person when i FEEL like he is gonna use his super. he tought me what all the vets at the time were doing like nferno666 pip99 tarkanx and much more.

now there is also pip99. he was proboly the nicest friend a guy cud have. he tought me how to use ryu good and how to be good in tag. once i got really good me and him started doing tagteamed. now i knowed him for being the best tag team with ECW. but when i was tag team with him WE WERE UNSTOPPABLE. we never lost! he knew the perfect time to tag me and he knew the perfectr time to request a tag. those were the great days. And he tought me crossover and variable.

Yeah man i actually read all of that. Long time ago it seems. The good old days -_-................

your a good Kid coolplayer.

[shadowdog2244]

Sorry Tarkan, I already posted before I realized your post.???guess you could go and look at it there.
http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/cgi-bin....;t=1239

[limbei]

just to let u ppl know that limbei will never leave this game....
he loves the game too much :buttrock:

[dominicankid098]

I never said you should quit. I am just saying that I personally don't think that this tournament will have as many *showups* as TOC had...

[DarkstriderX]

I wish i joined in 2001..