Petition - To Whom Ever It May Concern

[Zing79]

***Getting a headache...***

your over-reaching on this Token...you're getting confrontational with someone WELL beyond your education level...stick to trumping the n00bs, cause you're not gonna win this, or ANY conversation against me :biggrin:

and you wanna know why petitions shouldn't be allowed...

read Quass' post, and then come to the realization that TMyApp has ALREADY told you that, "this is bitching of the highest order!"

What does this look like, a court room? I fear this may go on forever with the result of token blowing a fuse and insulting the people he is speaking against. I don't want something like this to get one of our senior members banned. Please, just lock the topic, and token, please just give it up and quit responding.

[Token]

i may not win in an argument of wits, or anything, but if you want to argue about this, and try and win, unless you want to disregard logic, i wish you luck.

we dont know how to code...yeah, so? tm wants suggestions, and asks for them. whats wrong with doing it in an organized way?

if he wants our opinions, and will consider them, how can you not say its a democracy? the people here, for most things, are deciding what goes in. without our input, this game would be nothing. you know why? people want what they like, and tm is giving us just that.

the vision to create and follow through? that has absoloutly nothing to do with this. we didnt make the game, but our input means everything to the continuation of it, whether you wish to argue on that note or not. im a very stubborn person, and unless you refute every god #### thing i say, youll never beat me at this. ive found holes in your arguments, after im done with this post, find the ones in mine.

tm lays down the law, yes? yeah, for forum rules and such. he says what we can and cannot do, but hes outlawing something because of what selvin did. selvin went about it horribly, and i guarantee if i were the one who created this, there wouldnt be a single confrontation.

on quass' next piece, here...

most of us are still in school, and we dont have to work as much as an adult who lives on his own would...but again, that means nothing. this all goes back to how selvin worded his statement. when he demanded these things, he fucked himself over.

our petitions are wrong? how so? with anyone else in charge of it, we would have had a group of people asking for something, instead of wasting everyones time by posting it several times. but with the way it was worded, and the way it was gone about, it turned into a demand by the people involved. this, i did not sign up for. i signed up because i want the old rank system back, and were probobly not gonna get it.

if you want to keep arguing with me, you can, but you wont get anywhere until you can disprove everything ive said.

[Token]

Quote: from 2000warrior on 11:16 pm on Dec. 23, 2001
What does this look like, a court room? I fear this may go on forever with the result of token blowing a fuse and insulting the people he is speaking against. I don't want something like this to get one of our senior members banned. Please, just lock the topic, and token, please just give it up and quit responding.

why would i stop responding? nothing ive said has been disproved. zing wants to argue with me, so be it. the people against me, because thats what this is, ME, not the petition members, wont get ANYWHERE until they disprove the sheer LOGIC involved with what ive said. do you want me to lay it down in less redundant way?

i want the old scores back so i signed on.

selvin worded it horribly, and went about it wrong, so we have conflict.

people are taking the petition ideas WAY out of proportion.

simple as that.

Regaurding my post against petitioning: I posted what I had to say against petitioning in hopes to show why mods may not want to deal with petitions, to people like you who believe petitioning is right. I had no idea this would blow up into such a large debate, and have no intention of defending my beleifs. They're there to read, I don't need to continue to post them.

Regaurding Token: Token, I just don't want you getting banned. If you keep this up, zing or tmy or some other mod might see it as continued bitching and ban you. I don't want you, or Selvin, or any other seinor member for that matter, to get banned over a quarl you had with a mod/mods. If one of them does threaten to ban you in a post, I strongly urgue you to not argue back. Since your posts show that you do believe in the pursuit of logic, you obviously realize that becoming a maurter will not help your cause. Please, for your sake, accept authority.
ps: I'm glad that you hold your own beliefs and wish to defend them. The last thing we need is for everyone to have one opinion about everything.

[Zing79]

A petition by its very nature implies that you are seeking something which one of you could not get on your own by asking...

That is why it's considered bitching in this instance....
This topic is retarded...arguing with a 14 yr old is even MORE retarded when you're a PhD.

This thing dies here and now...TOPIC CLOSED!!