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Old 01-12-2003, 03:12 PM   #21
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It depends on the minimum amount of energy or ki usable with each attack, not the user. What if Goku were to use a Shinkuu Hadouken? We have no idea how much damage it would do. It could destroy an ant, or an entire solor system. And Ryu with the Kamehameha. The same goes for him. Well, maybe not. We know the Goku, any other "Z" fighter fo rthat matter(trust me, Chaozu is stronger than Ryu, even if he's the weakest member of the team, or maybe Yajirobe is instead...nevermind) is stronger than Ryu, so they have much more potential using an SF attack than the SFer themselves be cause of their level of strength. Or maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't always count on the user.
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its got to be the kamahameha cuse goku can blow up worlds :buttrock: and ryus small laser can only hurt ppl :alien:
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[quoteost_uid0="SBYRD5"]If Ryu and Ken Masters sync in fighting styles,and Ryu becomes Evil Ryu.Also if Ryu where to become part machine like Akuma did in the game "Marvel Super Heros vs Street Fighters".

THEN and ONLY THEN do I think Ryu's beam could compare to goku's.

Also what time period is this.

Goku as a kid...Ryu is stronger.(Dragonball time period)

When goku returned to earth after being killed by Piccolo he learned "King Kai Fist" he was stronger than Ryu then and so on....(DragonballZ time period)[/quote]
"TarkanX himself said that Ryu wouldn't even be able to take out Piccolo.

And Goku's Kamehameha has the ability to destroy earth after he completes training with Kaiousamma. When he's fighting Vegeta, Vegeta's Gyarikku-Ho had the ability to destroy earth, and Goku countered it with a Kaiouken x4 Kamehameha. Upon arriving on Namek, he could prolly destroy earth with a regular Kamehameha. At the end of DBZ, even a normal energy dan could do the job. Ryu's Shinkuu MIGHT compare to the Kamehameha that Goku used against Raditzu, but no higher than that."
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And rightfully so

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If Ryu and Ken Masters sync in fighting styles,and Ryu becomes Evil Ryu.Also if Ryu where to become part machine like Akuma did in the game "Marvel Super Heros vs Street Fighters".

THEN and ONLY THEN do I think Ryu's beam could compare to goku's.

Also what time period is this.

Goku as a kid...Ryu is stronger.(Dragonball time period)

When goku returned to earth after being killed by Piccolo he learned "King Kai Fist" he was stronger than Ryu then and so on....(DragonballZ time period)

.ahem* welcome back Joe.
and Karnage you didn't fully read read and understand my post.

I stated Ryu could defeat Goku's blast before the training with King Kia.
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[quoteost_uid0="MasterX05"]Well in the streetfighter Alpha movie dark ryu luanched a hadoken that destroy half the bulding he hit. And when he even was normal ryu and did his Shinkuu Hadoken he destoryed or put a big hole in the enemy. Most of the time Goku didn't put a hole in his unless he really meant it like with cell. But goku does his kamehameha so dam slow. I mean if he did that on ryu by the time he get's to hame Ryu would all ready start his Shinkuu hadoken, in gokus face. But if it was normal ryu against normal goku, u really dont know. if Evil Ryu against ssjgoku. Now that will be something to see. So I cant really say which is stronger they are just both so good. :biggrin:[/quote]
eeeeeeee! wrong. Kamehame is da best. The Kameheme doesn't have to be that long, man. Kamehame can be done fast too, but it won't be that powerful. heheh... I don't really know how big Ryu's fireball can go, but I haven't seen him do it that big as DBZ's in their episode. hehehe... :laughlong:
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Now that I've done a bit of research, I've discovered a few things not commonly known about the Kamehameha: the fact that there are eleven variations of it:

Kamehameha-normal blast
Chaou Kamehameha-uses a lot of energy, takes longer to charge, and inflicts damage on the user's body
Kamehameha Max Power-uses ALL of the user's energy
Hana Gaeshi Kamehameha-using a Kamehameha to block/deflect another energy attack
Ashi Kara Kamehameha-the ability to shoot a Kamehameha from the feet
Magura Kamehameha-firing a Kamehameha that misses the opponent, but is then able to turn around and strike them from behind
"Fatality" Kamehameha-pretty much a Kamehameha Max Power, but uses some of the user's life energy (like Kikoho), and the user passes out afterwards.
Renzoku Kamehameha-The ability to fire more than one Kamehameha blast at the same time, each blast being at full power
Shunkan Kamehameha-The user powers up a Chaou Kamehameha, but uses the Shunkan Idou to teleport directly under or around the opponent
Waiting Kamehameha-The ability to power up a Chaou kamehameha and delay it's firing indefinately
Waza Kamehameha-the most powerful kamehameha, it taps into the user's hidden powers and potential ki to increase its power. Gohan uses this to defeat Super Perfect Cell, and it has enough energy to destroy the North Galaxy

Now, IMO, Goku in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai, using the "Fatality" Kamehameha, could probably overpower Ryu's SHinkuu Hadoken. However, Ryu trying to use a Shinkuu Hadouken against a Chaou Kamehameha or the Waza Kamehameha in DBZ would be like Bardock's blast disappearing into Furiza's Death Ball.
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Old 01-16-2003, 12:52 AM   #30
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Dangit, Joe, you have your names all wrong, and a few Kame Hame Ha types that don't even exist as separate types! The "Fatality" version is called the Chou Kame Hame Ha, the Max Power Kame Hame Ha is only used by Jackie Chun to destroy the moon, Hana Gaeshi Kame Hame Ha is just a use of the Kame Hame Ha and not a separate type, Renzoku Kame Hame Ha is used while Goku is training in the Gravity room on his way to Namek (he fires it, and while it is being fired he moves his arms and changes its path to try to meet up with another fireball spinning about), the full name of the next one is Shunkan Idou Kame Hame Ha, and the Waza Kame Hame Ha isn't its own type of Kame Hame Ha, either.

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The only ones that you really got right were the Waiting Kame Hame Ha and the Ashi Kara Kame Hame Ha, and that is used but once in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai. The Magura Kame Hame Ha is actually a variation on the Renzoku Kame Hame Ha.

Now then... the answer is simple. Shinkuu Hadouken, in the story, is a single fireball. A brief burst of energy. Kame Hame Ha is a beam of continuous energy. The Kame Hame Ha could overtake any single fireball like the Shinkuu Hadouken.
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