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Old 05-21-2002, 02:49 PM   #11
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Well Troy88...I'm glad someone understands lag as well as I do... But a few things..

1. It may be because you joined in February that you haven't seen it much but the 2 or 3 Shinkuu Hadonkens in a row used to be fairly popular. For this reason I'm always on the defensive if someone shots one Shinkuu Hadoken and still has the level to shoot one or two more (which they usually will). Just block until their super meter is gone and they've wasted their meter (there is time to defend from a second if you get hit by the first so their wasting the rest of their meter). And if you're on turbo mode (because normal mode opperates too slowly to pull it off) and fast enough, you can super jump behind your opponent and wait for the next Shinkuu Hadoken.

2. The super hurricane kick doesn't work quite as well as you'd think. Although I saw many people using it in December, barely any use it now. It's by far the easiest super in the game too avoid. If you're standing next to someone who's about to pull it, you can easily duck and block, once you're safely under the super, just punch until he comes out of it (your duck block won't register on their screen, but the duck punches will when they come out of the super). If you're super jumping, you should be at least wise enough to block while you're in the air. When you land next to someone who's doing the super, you'll land harmlessly underneath him, only having to block 1 attack and can go to duck punches from there (just don't hit the hard punch). If you're not too close to someone doing a hurricane kick or the super, then you can jump backwards and use a Hadoken or the super on them.

3. While jumping back while your opponent's in the air and doing a Shinkuu Hadoken can usually catch them off gaurd, it works best if their jumping forward at you with roundhouse kicks. The best strategy for the situation of a super jumping opponent is to run forward when they super jump and fire the Shinkuu Hadoken behind where you used to be. This makes it hard for even people who are ducking in the air to not get nailed because their orientation is off and will try to adjust either while their in the air or on the ground. Needless to say, they will have no chance of hitting you with a roundhouse because they'll be traveling in the wrong direction.

4. Using dragon punches for anti-air defense works fairly well, but try to keep it to the light punches or you expose yourself to attacks with Shinkuu Hadonkens, seeing how you can't block on the way down.

(Edited by 2000warrior at 5:50 pm on May 21, 2002)
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Old 05-21-2002, 03:02 PM   #12
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Nice

I see what you mean about the hurricane kick, but I still think you can catch people in it when they are super jumping, because they are so focused on jumping over your Shinkuu Hadouken that they don't bother to block, and since the super hurricane kick has a tendency to suck you in, it can be disorienting when coming down from above (especially since they weren't ready for it in the first place).

I always use quick dragon punches, cuz it seems to take the same amount of damage & has the same priority as a fierce dragon punch (plus as you said, the recovery time is quicker.

The running forward thing sounds cool, but I always disable dash because it interferes with my dragon punches (a staple part of my strategy).
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Heres how to deal with lag..... stand your ground till the opponent gets a perfect on you, that way, you don't have to whine about anything, or just go to the arcades/home consoles and beat anyone there.
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Quote: from Troy88 on 6:31 pm on May 21, 2002
Warmor: Lag affects both ends of the game, not just the person on the faster connection. Everyone lags. This post is supposed to help people deal with that fact. Can't you respect that?

. I'll take arrogance over whining any day.

(Edited by Troy88 at 5:34 pm on May 21, 2002)

Everyone lags, it's just some people just have a constant lagging problem for other fighters. Now if people say you lag alot, Ever think that they might be right????
I doubt that you will accept that you won or lose because of lag since your arrogance....

Lag exists, there's not much you can do about it. Everyone that has played the game regularly knows about this lag problem......So try posting this on the newbie section.
They seem to think there are cheats in this game.....



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Old 05-21-2002, 07:23 PM   #15
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Here's what gets me Gothic. I know I lag; I'm on a 56k modem. But there have been times that I've been over at my brother's house (who is on cable) and played people on his computer, and people have said the same thing. I may not be the best at this game, but I'm smart enough to know when people are full of sh!t and can't accept a loss. In fact, from what some people have told me, people on the faster connection actually have the advantage. That 'teleporting' sh!t, you think that doesn't happen to me? Well, it does. And I've even been beaten by it. But I don't sit there and cry about it after I lose to it, in fact, I'll even say 'gg.' The only time I EVER bitch when I lose is if they did nothing but cheeze me with low punches the whole round, because that's intentionally cheap. Lag is not.

I'll never accept that a win or loss was because of lag? You're #### right about the losing part. I will NEVER dismiss a loss to lag. If I lost, it was because I wasn't able to read my opponent, didn't react quickly enough, or perhaps even because my opponent had a better strategy. But I'm not going to sit there and say that the ONLY reason that they beat me was because of lag. I may be arrogant, but I respect anyone that can beat me (and anyone that can come close to beating me).
As far as winning a match, maybe I should just take Tarkan's advice next time we play and just sit there and let you pummel me with supers. Would that make you happy? Would that earn your respect? If that's truly what you want, then why don't you go kill some n00bs, because I'm not dumb enough to get close to you when I know #### well you're getting ready to do a Kikou Shou. You lost to me because you were predictable, not because I lag.

This was posted in the 'General Comments/Strategies' section because it was supposed to be about how to beat lag.
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