Matrix : revolution - Review by yours truly ! - Page 2

alamgir · 11-09-2003, 07:51 AM

The matrix i would give 9/10, it was unique and now a lot of films copy the slow motion and "bullet time" in the film.

The matrix reloaded, pretty much a big let down with a cliff hanger at the end. 5/10

The matrix revolutions, 2/10 probably the worst film i've seen this year, well below expectations and it doesn't even explain what happened at the end of the second one.

MIG · 11-10-2003, 08:14 AM

i'd rate them all pretty much equal although reloaded would be slightly lower because it had a pretty poor plot and was mainly based on fighting which was still good but the other two combine them both.

and for revolutions it's pretty much the best film i've ever seen. and from all the stuff i've heard other people say about it it seems like the only reason they dont like it is because you actually have to think in order to understand the storyline instead of just having it handed to you like most films do.

digital~fighter · 11-10-2003, 08:45 AM

i cant wait to see that movie. but the ppl who sew it say it's borin lol

SSJKarma · 11-10-2003, 11:51 AM

actually, i didn't want to say much about it cause no many people had seen it when it came out ##filter bypass##

but if you're wanting to go down the road, no problem for me ##filter bypass##

i actually like when producer mix actions and logic in their movie. i like having a good suspence where yu can't quite pinpoint what really happens until the end of the movie ! but i also like the way action is needed in order to make a movie good.

here is my real critics...
** WARNING SPOILERS ALERT **
ok...
i liked the way the movie started, for once it showed that neo cannot control all of the matrix, all that because he was trapped in that metro station ##filter bypass##

i like the action TRINITY, MORPHEUS and SERAPH fought in the beginning to see the merrovingien. really it was awesome. after alkl that was made the matrix movie (the first one) popular after all.

downfall...
really, its the fights inside the matrix that made the first movie an awesome one. without that feel of the matrix, the third movie was just lowering in mind. even tho i liked the war in the real world, it was not what i had in mind. i would have made a mix of both wars. NEO, MORPHEUS,TRINITY and basically all others fighting a real war and int he matrix at the same time, you see fighting on two front line at the same time was what i had expected ##filter bypass##

in the second movie, i like the action on the highway, but not the action against the 100+ SMITHs. so the third movie wasn't that good if i compared it to the second and even more non-sens if i compare it to the first ##filter bypass##

the fact thast neo controls the matrix without even plugged in makes simply no sens at all either. its like, i can kill kill,change and everything inside the matrix without even be near it, its just non-sens. i tryed for hours to find the real meaning of this. but all i could find was a stupid idea in itself, which was he needed to be strong enough to get into the machine homeland. the only thing that would enabled him to do so was to control their systems even without getting plugged in ! but it was a dumb idea. in my opinion ##filter bypass##

also, the fact neo and trinity die at the end really made me feell like quitting the theater in disgust ! if at least trinity would have died in a very good way, no she, died needlessly. it was even more stupid ##filter bypass##

really, i liked the big war outside the matrix, they made it look like a big war it was awesome, bloody awesome, but fine. seeing how human can be pushed behind their limits in the real world was an awesome deal ! (the kid who take that robot and link's girlfriend) but still, there was no need for them to make 3/4 of the movie about it. the action in the matrix, those fights and the likes are what made it was and without it, the matrix was just not the matrix ##filter bypass##

i liked the way the architech and the oracle talks at the end. i like dthe way they answered our questions, i was at a point where the only thing that would have been realistic to think of, was for them to be in 2 different matrix. kinda like the real world they say it is, is actually another matrix. that's the way i was thinking before seeing the third movie, because it was the only thing i think would have made sens.

seems like i was wrong.
i liked the plot in the first movie, it was an awesome movie, except for the ending where it became too cheesy for me, example a kiss he's alive and know everything ! how cheesy can this be ?.

i liked the second movie a little less, too much actions not enough storyline. what i liked the most was the action on the HIGHWAY, that was just as awesome as the first movie which is what was needed. but i didn't liked the fight with neo against the 100+ SMITHs, it was just too damn stupid of an idea ##filter bypass##

i liked the ending, showing that the one wasn't the one at all, it was all made up. i liked that, but ever since he killed those 5 sentinel. i was disappointed again.

the third movie comes even worst then the second movie. the fact that there is no INSIDE the MATRIX action, it rids us of the fact that the movies were all awesome because of those scenes in the matrix, the action.

example: my father loves the matrix cause he likes the kung fuactions and the fact that a man must overcome his limits to show his true potential. and he likes the story in that matrix. but when i told him there wasn't much of a MATRIX int he third movie, telling him that there is like only 20 minutes in total of in the matrix action. he said that this was going to be a real let down.

my father isn't the kind to say that to a movie before seeing it, if he does, that's because the movie isn't just like it was and will be even less enjoyfull to see ##filter bypass##

anyway, you understand what i meant by it was not to my expectation, the brothers got our expectation very high, only to fall short story wise ##filter bypass##

but that's my point of view ##filter bypass##

bloodpack · 11-10-2003, 12:46 PM

ok, its bloodpack's review now...

while most ppl are disappointed with the way how the movie end, all i can say, in every war, there has to be a casualty
pity it has to be trinity...

but i think they overdone neo's heroism, i know heroes have to be injured in fights but blinding him is too much

well, i guess its one way for the wachowski brothers to demostrate his "real powers in the real world" specially blazing those sentinels blocking their path##filter bypass##

i love the special FX specially neo fighting agent smith in the city##filter bypass####filter bypass##!

if you love DBZ showdowns then this movie is close to it##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##
everything was wreck havoc##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##
the awesome display of powers for both sides##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##

what bugs me is THE ORACLE
since right from the very start, she always confuses me with her riddles and puzzles##filter bypass##

heck, if im neo talking to her right now, i'd say..."can you please go straight to the point, im kinda busy you know, i gotta save my own =/ "

remember these words? "the answere lies by going back to the source"

heck, now i know, the solution to their half problem is agent smith going back to the "mother machine" using neo's body as a conduit to drag hugo weaving back to LOTR :biggrin:
maybe hell find good paycheck there :biggrin:

anywayzz, i dont think neo died, since in the matrix he wasnt injured badly, he was knocked unconcious while smith absorbs him, other than that, i dont thikn he died

the ending....

well, i really dont like the ending...PEACE?##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##
what the hell is that? theres no TOTAL RESOLUTION to their problem##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##

ppl want these machines out but it seems like this PEACE thing really means SURRENDER for the citizins of zion bcoz we all saw how the sentinels almost ready to wipe them out##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##

heck, if im a zion citizen, i wouldnt agree with that kinda pact
i will still pursue my goal to liberate my planet##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass##

or better yet, with the advanced technology they have, why cant they just find another planet to dwell upon?

i wouldnt stick around living with these treacherous machines knowing the fact that at any given moment, a spark of war might ignite again....

meh....

SSJKarma · 11-10-2003, 09:10 PM

welcome to the club of those who got disappointed by the third and final movie ##filter bypass##

oh and what powers int he real world ? you know that kinda thing cannot hapen int he real world, its like saying all blind persons int his world actually see in their blindness. its false dude, its stupid and non sens that you know ! having powers int he matrix is something but having powers outside the matrix, since when are we capable of such a great thing ?

really, its the worst of them all story wise ##filter bypass##
acvtion wise, well, the ending was just too stupid. other then that the action was coool, except that i was expecting a lot f matrix fights like that one in the highway, that was pretty awesome int he second movie.

oh well, now the series over, the first one will always be the best ##filter bypass##

alamgir · 11-11-2003, 09:21 AM

I couldn't agrree more ^

MIG · 11-11-2003, 11:27 AM

[quote

ost_uid0="SSJKarma"]welcome to the club of those who got disappointed by the third and final movie ##filter bypass##

oh and what powers int he real world ? you know that kinda thing cannot hapen int he real world, its like saying all blind persons int his world actually see in their blindness. its false dude, its stupid and non sens that you know ! having powers int he matrix is something but having powers outside the matrix, since when are we capable of such a great thing ?

really, its the worst of them all story wise ##filter bypass##
acvtion wise, well, the ending was just too stupid. other then that the action was coool, except that i was expecting a lot f matrix fights like that one in the highway, that was pretty awesome int he second movie.

oh well, now the series over, the first one will always be the best ##filter bypass##[/quote]
karma it's only a film, it doesn't have to be realistic. i'm sick of having to explain to people how everything happens in the film so if you want to find out go to the www.gamefaqs.com go into the boards, find the matrix one and look around there because everything has been answered.

as for storyline how can u say it was the worst? reloaded had next to no storyline, it was pretty much all mindless fights for the entire film with only a bit of story which most people didn't understand.

SSJKarma · 11-11-2003, 11:48 PM

well, if you say that the second movie had no storyline at all then you're the one who didn't understood anything mig !

it has a lot more stroyline thent he third movie which happens to have only a war waging on ! which by expectation, make it worst then its predessessor !

bloodpack · 11-12-2003, 06:26 AM

i wouldnt say its all that bad, i mean its pretty cool in terms of special FX

the only thing that sux is how the story ended...plus the annoying oracle...

as for the ppl who got disappointed on not seeing the "white twins" hate to say it, theyre EXPENDABLE just like the other sentinels

just bcoz they got fancy looks, doesnt mean they need to be in the film again...they had their shot and they failed their prime directives so if im the mother machine, why would i utilize them again?

as for the fight scene of neo and smith, of course it was awesome, the windows were shattering!, you can really feel their powers...

remember the part when smith punched neo? he got him bleed (now that's reasonable)

howbout when smith smashed neo on the pavement, you can see the crater it created...but alas! not even a scratch for neo?!

hes just soak and wet with mud... :sarcasm:

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11-09-2003, 07:51 AM	#11
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	The matrix i would give 9/10, it was unique and now a lot of films copy the slow motion and "bullet time" in the film. The matrix reloaded, pretty much a big let down with a cliff hanger at the end. 5/10 The matrix revolutions, 2/10 probably the worst film i've seen this year, well below expectations and it doesn't even explain what happened at the end of the second one. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

11-10-2003, 08:14 AM	#12
MIG Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 693 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i'd rate them all pretty much equal although reloaded would be slightly lower because it had a pretty poor plot and was mainly based on fighting which was still good but the other two combine them both. and for revolutions it's pretty much the best film i've ever seen. and from all the stuff i've heard other people say about it it seems like the only reason they dont like it is because you actually have to think in order to understand the storyline instead of just having it handed to you like most films do. __________________ aka---MIG_9 and raziel123 http://www.azure-reflection.net/razielsig.jpg

11-10-2003, 08:45 AM	#13
digital~fighter Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,048 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i cant wait to see that movie. but the ppl who sew it say it's borin lol __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/oren/dF4.gif[/img:sig_uid] [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/oren/digitaltag.jpg[/img:sig_uid] DiGiTaL FiGhTeR NWO Staff

11-10-2003, 11:51 AM	#14
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	actually, i didn't want to say much about it cause no many people had seen it when it came out ##filter bypass## but if you're wanting to go down the road, no problem for me ##filter bypass## i actually like when producer mix actions and logic in their movie. i like having a good suspence where yu can't quite pinpoint what really happens until the end of the movie ! but i also like the way action is needed in order to make a movie good. here is my real critics... WARNING SPOILERS ALERT ok... i liked the way the movie started, for once it showed that neo cannot control all of the matrix, all that because he was trapped in that metro station ##filter bypass## i like the action TRINITY, MORPHEUS and SERAPH fought in the beginning to see the merrovingien. really it was awesome. after alkl that was made the matrix movie (the first one) popular after all. downfall... really, its the fights inside the matrix that made the first movie an awesome one. without that feel of the matrix, the third movie was just lowering in mind. even tho i liked the war in the real world, it was not what i had in mind. i would have made a mix of both wars. NEO, MORPHEUS,TRINITY and basically all others fighting a real war and int he matrix at the same time, you see fighting on two front line at the same time was what i had expected ##filter bypass## in the second movie, i like the action on the highway, but not the action against the 100+ SMITHs. so the third movie wasn't that good if i compared it to the second and even more non-sens if i compare it to the first ##filter bypass## the fact thast neo controls the matrix without even plugged in makes simply no sens at all either. its like, i can kill kill,change and everything inside the matrix without even be near it, its just non-sens. i tryed for hours to find the real meaning of this. but all i could find was a stupid idea in itself, which was he needed to be strong enough to get into the machine homeland. the only thing that would enabled him to do so was to control their systems even without getting plugged in ! but it was a dumb idea. in my opinion ##filter bypass## also, the fact neo and trinity die at the end really made me feell like quitting the theater in disgust ! if at least trinity would have died in a very good way, no she, died needlessly. it was even more stupid ##filter bypass## really, i liked the big war outside the matrix, they made it look like a big war it was awesome, bloody awesome, but fine. seeing how human can be pushed behind their limits in the real world was an awesome deal ! (the kid who take that robot and link's girlfriend) but still, there was no need for them to make 3/4 of the movie about it. the action in the matrix, those fights and the likes are what made it was and without it, the matrix was just not the matrix ##filter bypass## i liked the way the architech and the oracle talks at the end. i like dthe way they answered our questions, i was at a point where the only thing that would have been realistic to think of, was for them to be in 2 different matrix. kinda like the real world they say it is, is actually another matrix. that's the way i was thinking before seeing the third movie, because it was the only thing i think would have made sens. seems like i was wrong. i liked the plot in the first movie, it was an awesome movie, except for the ending where it became too cheesy for me, example a kiss he's alive and know everything ! how cheesy can this be ?. i liked the second movie a little less, too much actions not enough storyline. what i liked the most was the action on the HIGHWAY, that was just as awesome as the first movie which is what was needed. but i didn't liked the fight with neo against the 100+ SMITHs, it was just too damn stupid of an idea ##filter bypass## i liked the ending, showing that the one wasn't the one at all, it was all made up. i liked that, but ever since he killed those 5 sentinel. i was disappointed again. the third movie comes even worst then the second movie. the fact that there is no INSIDE the MATRIX action, it rids us of the fact that the movies were all awesome because of those scenes in the matrix, the action. example: my father loves the matrix cause he likes the kung fuactions and the fact that a man must overcome his limits to show his true potential. and he likes the story in that matrix. but when i told him there wasn't much of a MATRIX int he third movie, telling him that there is like only 20 minutes in total of in the matrix action. he said that this was going to be a real let down. my father isn't the kind to say that to a movie before seeing it, if he does, that's because the movie isn't just like it was and will be even less enjoyfull to see ##filter bypass## anyway, you understand what i meant by it was not to my expectation, the brothers got our expectation very high, only to fall short story wise ##filter bypass## but that's my point of view ##filter bypass## __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

11-10-2003, 12:46 PM	#15
bloodpack Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,706 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	ok, its bloodpack's review now... while most ppl are disappointed with the way how the movie end, all i can say, in every war, there has to be a casualty pity it has to be trinity... but i think they overdone neo's heroism, i know heroes have to be injured in fights but blinding him is too much well, i guess its one way for the wachowski brothers to demostrate his "real powers in the real world" specially blazing those sentinels blocking their path##filter bypass## i love the special FX specially neo fighting agent smith in the city##filter bypass####filter bypass##! if you love DBZ showdowns then this movie is close to it##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## everything was wreck havoc##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## the awesome display of powers for both sides##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## what bugs me is THE ORACLE since right from the very start, she always confuses me with her riddles and puzzles##filter bypass## heck, if im neo talking to her right now, i'd say..."can you please go straight to the point, im kinda busy you know, i gotta save my own =/ " remember these words? "the answere lies by going back to the source" heck, now i know, the solution to their half problem is agent smith going back to the "mother machine" using neo's body as a conduit to drag hugo weaving back to LOTR :biggrin: maybe hell find good paycheck there :biggrin: anywayzz, i dont think neo died, since in the matrix he wasnt injured badly, he was knocked unconcious while smith absorbs him, other than that, i dont thikn he died the ending.... well, i really dont like the ending...PEACE?##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## what the hell is that? theres no TOTAL RESOLUTION to their problem##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## ppl want these machines out but it seems like this PEACE thing really means SURRENDER for the citizins of zion bcoz we all saw how the sentinels almost ready to wipe them out##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## heck, if im a zion citizen, i wouldnt agree with that kinda pact i will still pursue my goal to liberate my planet##filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass####filter bypass## or better yet, with the advanced technology they have, why cant they just find another planet to dwell upon? i wouldnt stick around living with these treacherous machines knowing the fact that at any given moment, a spark of war might ignite again.... meh....

11-10-2003, 09:10 PM	#16
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	welcome to the club of those who got disappointed by the third and final movie ##filter bypass## oh and what powers int he real world ? you know that kinda thing cannot hapen int he real world, its like saying all blind persons int his world actually see in their blindness. its false dude, its stupid and non sens that you know ! having powers int he matrix is something but having powers outside the matrix, since when are we capable of such a great thing ? really, its the worst of them all story wise ##filter bypass## acvtion wise, well, the ending was just too stupid. other then that the action was coool, except that i was expecting a lot f matrix fights like that one in the highway, that was pretty awesome int he second movie. oh well, now the series over, the first one will always be the best ##filter bypass## __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

11-11-2003, 09:21 AM	#17
alamgir Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,865 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I couldn't agrree more ^ __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v209/alamgir/advancedborder-ice.jpg[/img:sig_uid] When your the number one public enemy, who do you turn to?

11-11-2003, 11:27 AM	#18
MIG Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 693 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="SSJKarma"]welcome to the club of those who got disappointed by the third and final movie ##filter bypass## oh and what powers int he real world ? you know that kinda thing cannot hapen int he real world, its like saying all blind persons int his world actually see in their blindness. its false dude, its stupid and non sens that you know ! having powers int he matrix is something but having powers outside the matrix, since when are we capable of such a great thing ? really, its the worst of them all story wise ##filter bypass## acvtion wise, well, the ending was just too stupid. other then that the action was coool, except that i was expecting a lot f matrix fights like that one in the highway, that was pretty awesome int he second movie. oh well, now the series over, the first one will always be the best ##filter bypass##[/quote] karma it's only a film, it doesn't have to be realistic. i'm sick of having to explain to people how everything happens in the film so if you want to find out go to the www.gamefaqs.com go into the boards, find the matrix one and look around there because everything has been answered. as for storyline how can u say it was the worst? reloaded had next to no storyline, it was pretty much all mindless fights for the entire film with only a bit of story which most people didn't understand. __________________ aka---MIG_9 and raziel123 http://www.azure-reflection.net/razielsig.jpg

11-11-2003, 11:48 PM	#19
SSJKarma Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Canada somewhere in the province of quebec Posts: 5,445 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well, if you say that the second movie had no storyline at all then you're the one who didn't understood anything mig ! it has a lot more stroyline thent he third movie which happens to have only a war waging on ! which by expectation, make it worst then its predessessor ! __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://membres.lycos.fr/imagesforum/Banner.gif[/img:sig_uid] "How did you escape my grasp ? no matter, i'll crush you now !" -DB : Lost Soul My Web Site http://membres.lycos.fr/xmvssf/

11-12-2003, 06:26 AM	#20
bloodpack Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,706 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	i wouldnt say its all that bad, i mean its pretty cool in terms of special FX the only thing that sux is how the story ended...plus the annoying oracle... as for the ppl who got disappointed on not seeing the "white twins" hate to say it, theyre EXPENDABLE just like the other sentinels just bcoz they got fancy looks, doesnt mean they need to be in the film again...they had their shot and they failed their prime directives so if im the mother machine, why would i utilize them again? as for the fight scene of neo and smith, of course it was awesome, the windows were shattering!, you can really feel their powers... remember the part when smith punched neo? he got him bleed (now that's reasonable) howbout when smith smashed neo on the pavement, you can see the crater it created...but alas! not even a scratch for neo?! hes just soak and wet with mud... :sarcasm: