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[weezer]

pfft......

[Troy88]

[quoteost_uid0="princevegetam"]any fighter who doesn't know martial arts is weak compared to someone else who does know.
...finishing an opponent in a few minutes. not even the greatest fighters in the world can kill in a few minutes
...well, duh!, any martial arts requires speed over strength. so any one good at martial arts is fast, otherwise they wouldn't be fighting using martial arts.
...you guys got lots of bark, but do you have any bite to go with it. brag all you want, but prove your words.[/quote]
Have any of you ever seen UFC "extreme fighting?" Ya know, no holds-barred, banned in several countries, outlawed at one time, and violent as f*ck? If you did, I think your perception on "great fighting" might change a bit. I must say, I think some of you take anime too seriously, and you've probably seen one too many Van Damme movies. There is no "supreme martial-arts warrior."

First of all, with all due respect princevegetam, you are dead wrong about being weak if you don't know martial arts. I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen in those "no holds-barred" UFC fights. In UFC there are no rules, so in my opinion, it is the closest thing to a "street fight" you could ever watch on your VCR or DVD player. The truth is, the grappler types are generally the toughest contenders. Why? Because being able to do backflips and fancy kicks doesn't mean anything when you're on your back being pinned down by a 240 pound man. That's what the "grappler types" are trained to do, get you on the ground at all costs; and believe me, they're good at it. Sure, martial artists are excellent fighters at a distance. As long as they can keep that distance, they have a good chance at winning. But if one of those "grappler types" manages to get in close, all the martial arts training in the world won't save them. Once they have you on the ground, strength is most definitely superior to speed. What they'll do is, they'll tackle their opponent by the legs (despite their size, most of them are pretty quick), get them in a submission hold, and then bash their skull to a bloody pulp until they either forfeit or are unconscious. This isn't a video game where the move is performed and then the opponent is somehow magically thrown out of it at some point at a safe distance. No. Once they have you in one of those submission holds, it's all over. Cheap fighting strategy? Perhaps. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't work. I've seen many "martial arts experts" lose in that very manner. Besides, in a real street fight, there's no such thing as "dirty." You do what works.

Now, that's not to say that martial artists are total weaklings. I don't mean to imply that at all. But I think you need to give strength and size it's due credit. One of those "grappler-types" from UFC would rip Jean Claude Van Damme a new asshole. I used to think that the martial artists were superior myself, until I saw one of those UFC videos. Watch Ken Shamrock fight sometime and you'll see what I mean.


As far as not being able to defeat an opponent in a few minutes, I'm going to have to disagree with you there, too (sorry ). Have you ever been kicked in the head full force? Because in a real fight where you're actually trying to hurt your opponent (such as a UFC fight) and you aren't wearing any kind of protective head gear, the fight's pretty much over when that happens. You can cause permanent damage if you hit your opponent hard enough. Getting kicked in the skull is no joke. If you're still moving after a blow like that (which is unlikely), chances are you'll be too dazed to prevent any further attacks. I will admit, the martial artists have the advantage in this scenario, because they are trained to deal with immense pain. But the average person is more than likely done for.

And if one or both of the fighters happens to be a "grappler type," those fights don't usually last very long, either. Tackle, submission hold, repeated blows to the face (full force). One minute, tops. I saw this big sumo in one of those fights trapped in a submission hold, and the guy kept punching him in the side of the head until he cried. I couldn't believe it. Blood was pouring out of his ear and everything.

I agree with you about ZeroEna getting carried away with the ego, however. In real life, one person doesn't win against six. This isn't a Bruce Lee movie where they all stand in a line and take turns trying to kick your ass, no, they'll all get in there at once. I don't care how good you are, you can't defend from all sides.

If any of you are interested in UFC Extreme Fighting, I feel obligated to warn you ahead of time of the graphic violence. It's downright gruesome (blood, bones being broken, and in a few cases, even death), and it's all 100% real. It got banned from several countries for a reason.

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Actually, the fights that happen to ZeroEna happen to me a lot too. Eventually, you learn their style, and find a way to defend. "My" gang encircles me and tries to trap me everytime, which they do, but there's this one kid (their boss) and all I have to do is place a well aimed split kick (a split used as a kick in the air) and he's out, along with the other guy (his older brother @_@) and then I run like hell. But there's this one guy on a bike, with a bat, and he always misses with the bat, and he ends up falling. So they pretty much beat themselves up. All I have to do is do the split kick and run. No they didn't learn to defend it because I kick at different times (face, stomach, the *). And what Troy said is true. In fights, nothing is called dirty, cheap, or unfair. Although, fighting is stupid, and I would rather avoid it altogether. But in their case I can't. So I'm doing what I can, whether it's going to the mall with my friends (who squeal when a guy stares at them funny, and there are a lot of guys like that, and at which point, they tell me to beat him up, another fight starts, and so on a so forth), or going shopping (too many theives, and they aren't even the hobo's). By the way, did anyone else notice that everyone on this earth is becoming a little bit more tense by the day?

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[quoteost_uid3="princevegetam"]and don't expect me to believe any of those crap with you getting hit by a car. how are you able to post then???[/quoteost_uid3]
I just noticed this, and I am able to post because I am a strong girl. I don't whine about the pains that happen, because it just makes it worse. Besides, I wasn't hurt so badly. My leg was broken, yeah, but my wrist is in a cast, because my parents wanted an extra precaution, since my wrist also hurt. Although, it was just stiff. Boy, if you think my parents are sympathetic at all, then you're totally wrong. I am fine now, though. My leg is healed, my wrist is a bit stiff, but it's gonna be fine, and my parents are still giving me angry looks. *sigh* the torture never ends, no matter where I go.... and sorry for double posting.... *skates away slowly and sadly*

[ZeroEna]

You think you got it bad Roll? If anything happens to me like I get a black eye or or sprain my ancle they blame me and I lose basicly everything. and then never let me hear the end of it. Heck my medical record is going on it's 2rd page from fighting. Just glad it's not the scholl year anymore don't have to fight as much. Only problem is the odds are worse because most of my friends go to others states for the summer. So basicly its me and just one friend against 10 or 12 there prety easy to beat though all they do is throw punches so all I have to do is block and trip them. My frend can fight knida like the matrix and knows a little Karate. So basicly the odds are good for half the summer till he goes too and I'm alone. (stands hearing the wind blow by....) then it's basicly me against the whole damn world. tHose gangs have a little respect though they'll fight me one at a time at least when they feel like it. Other wize I'm useing a trash can lid as a wepon against knives. actual you'd be suprised what you can do with a lid. As long as it's not aluminum. Sorry I'm just trying to make you feel better you could have it as bad as me... But as long as I know I have some one to come back I'll never give up. (Walks off slowly hair covering face)

[Roll]

Well, if you're in very large trouble, then *somehow* I'll get over there.

[ZeroEna]

Nah it's sok i've got a hard plastic trash can a incomplete fence and a Scottish Terrier that can tare an arm off (in defence only though)

[mastaq]

im not here to brag but im 5'9 and about 200lbs. and i have an insane threshhold for pain. ive been through fights all my life and its not funny. im one of those "grappler" types and when i bring you to the floor its all over. no joke........... me and my bro were fighting i was holding back on him and i still broke his arm.and im not proud of what i did. but all im saying i that if a "grappler" brings a martial arts user to the floor there screwed. all i have to do is get you in a choke hold apply pressure and knock you out,or snap your neck. im not a violent person so i wouldnt do this unless EXTREMELY provoked.

[SBYRD5]

Well I don't fight anymore besides tournaments at my martial arts school. Oh prince yes you can break Blocks it's a science formula really using more than the mass in your arm to crush blocks,but your hold body is plenty to break blocks.(Oh your right about the cement I did till a lie I was trying to get attention.) ???But I can break 3 stone blocks...

[asshole]

Well, one of the strategies in BOXING is to never let ANYONE take you down!

So, so much for your grapplers...
( I know you can still probably use some grapplers while standing up, but don't think its that easy.. )