Lmfao! - This shit is hilarious!

[MasterX05]

[quoteost_uid0="Elena"]Lol are you blaming God for not helping in pollution. HA HA ur funny. God gave us free will, pain, and all that other stuff after adam and eve ate from the forbbiden tree. It's Eve's fault.

Lol the planets could of formed on there own after all there is now matter for them to formed from. And planets do not come from stars.

And i believe in evolution and God.

Yes, the stories did change alot but they got to the point. MAybe names were changed maybe the city names were different but they got to the point.

And Master do you believe in God.[/quote]
You are the first Female ever to say it was Eves, I had this debate in my freshman year in freshman semniar. And almost all the girls jumped down me and another guys throat for saying the blame was Eve, even the teacher was with the girls saying the same crap.

And you are not getting my point of Pollition. I never said God of helping matter of fact why should he help? Man MADE pollution. He made Adam to protect and rule the Earth and creatures that lived on it. So far we have been doing a very bad job of this, we hunt animals for no ###ing reason at all,(what hunters call game) Main problem on this earth is the ozone layer&Bush :biggrin: you might not give a flying monkeys balls about it but you will see the importants of it.

Look at our sloar system do you think the big bang, All the gas, matter, star's dust...etc was formed and made JUST for earth? All nine planets circle and orbit around the SUN. earth is nothing speacial at all the plantes were made at the same TIME all the squeeze of gas and "Gravity" formed it in a sphere. Did Earth have life right away? Think and ask all of this made extreme heat and the earth was more of a Molten ball of lava so were the other planets. It had to take time for it to cool off and harding the crust(which is the surface we live on). Earth is still hot it still has not cooled off now coming sence will tell u that it is impossible for earth to cool of in a week. The moon came from apart of earth nothing special about it.

Planets dont come from star huh? So if I told you u are nothing more then start dust would you belive me? Believe it or not you are. Star dust yep thought god made you in a pot with sugar,spice and every thing nice huh. Nope not at all, they say that men have 1 less rib then women, not sure of this to be true but i doubt it is.

Do I believe in god? Well if you asked me that question a year ago I would say yes. But after a year with Mr Pope you begin to see and think of things diffrent. So I some what do in a way.

lol Karma pretty much laid it down in the example I wast tying to give u.

Now another question for you 2 What is life? And no bull about hearts and other crap.

[asshole]

Who the hell are Adam and EVE?
And ScorPo, what's Genesis?



Alls I STILL know is that, I will believe in what I SEE or KNOW it's there and it affects me!
Other-wise, I can jerk-off ALL I want and still NOT call in a Sin!
( Yes, I am sorta drunk right now.. HOO HOO HOO!! )

[Scorponok]

[quoteost_uid0="asshole"]Who the hell are Adam and EVE?
And ScorPo, what's Genesis?



Alls I STILL know is that, I will believe in what I SEE or KNOW it's there and it affects me!
Other-wise, I can jerk-off ALL I want and still NOT call in a Sin!
( Yes, I am sorta drunk right now.. HOO HOO HOO!! )[/quote]
Genesis is the first book of the Bible..
Maybe you should read it before you go off giving opinions about it..

I'll get back to you later Master, I'm kinda tired of all this right now.. lol



Edited By Scorponok on June 17 2003 at 23:55

[asshole]

I didn't give any oPions about any book..
I gave out my oPinions, and how i'll only believe in what I want and KNOW!

I'm not gonna go read ANOTHER BIBLE and let it tell me what to do..


Ok, one of my retarted friends have a "Satanic Bible", It has VERY good Points.. Would you want me to go getthat from him and Post them here?
It's TOTALLY against the real Bible, it tells you all the oPPosite ways to live and shlt!
But I don't believein THAt either.. because it's just a stuPid book, written by stuPid PeoPle!

[SSJKarma]

[quoteost_uid0="Scorponok"]Karma, I see what you're getting at, but the only thing it proves to me is that you don't have anything in response to my points I've stated.
You're question? But there is a Heaven, so your question is null and void :biggrin:

And asshole, read Genesis and see for yourself about free will :S[/quote]
like i thought, you don't even care and you don't want to argue with us, all you want is to prove that you are right about it, and this, reguardless of what we think !

cause if you answered what you answered... then you clearly didn't understood what i wrote !

i'll put you my question the other way around...
tell me how you know HEAVEN exists !

give proof of it, cause simple THOUGHT and BOOKS doesn't !

and you still didn't answer my question...
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE KING ARTHUR AND EXCALIBUR EXISTED ? (believe me, this is relevant)

other questions i ask you...
DO YOU THINK GOD IS PERFECT AND NEVER MAKES MISTAKES ? (many think yes, that's what i ask)

but anyway... i'm out of this debate, cause you don'T seem open enought to actually understand us correctly, you seems to be focused on god and that's it.

like i said, PEOPLE FEAR THE TRUTH !
what if what your TRUTH happens to be wrong ?
that's the question many, like yourself don't want to ask themselves.

that is the only reason why i rather believe in things that i can proove and let time prooves me the rest !
you got no proofs of god existence, no REAL proof, the bible is just an old book writen by more then 300 peoples with 300 different ways of understanding the thing.

i was never saying that all was wrong in that book... but most (over half of it) is mainly false and non-sense added over the years because those writers didn't loved what they wrote down !

if jesus would have been BLACK (maybe he was)
do you really think, that at that time... (black slavery)
they would have writen the bible as him being black ?

if yes, then you gotta a big problem, and you're just like that women in my family that think god is gonna give her everything because she gives him all her money and the rest !
those kind of fanatics like that, don't have their place in a community. they think everything is granted to them and they try to make you believe them cause they want to hear the truth, so they make their own truth and make sure they are right !

again...
how do you know, your truth is the right thing to believe ?
i tell you, no believe is the right one, we all know its gonna change someday... and if you die and you realize you see another god then yours... how will you react ? how will god react ?

for my part, he never helped me out, did he ever gave a reason to me for taking lives ?
when he take out my little cousin which died from cancer at the age of 6 !
did he ever listenned to my prayers, did he ever gave me a reason to believe in him when i most needed it ?

my whole 15 years of life when i believe in him... he never hapenned to give me any reason of his existence.

did he ever gave you some ?
then, why would you care for a creature that doesn't even care if you believe in him or not ?

now, i'm 22... i just don't care if he exists or not, only time will give me that answer !
now i think this debate reached his limit, if you're not even gonna give us credits for our arguments... then you clearly wasn'T debating at all !

asshoie: i ask of you to close this thread, or if you like that kind of non-sense, then just go on with it... but i'm out of here ! maybe i'll continue to read... but don't expect me to post anymore !

[pip99]

been reading some of the stuff....and i and a christian...and i dont wanna die...and there nothings u knowu ever though about that....just like u dont even know your there....i dont wanna go into it makes me sad........

[blossom]

now, i'm 22... i just don't care if he exists or not, only time will give me that answer !

well its sad that you will wait until its too late to save your soul, but its not any of our responsibilities (Scorpinok,Elena, or myself) to change your mind.
As you said this is a debate and thats all we are doing, so dont get upset and leave the thread if we dont agree with your point Karma.

do you believe in the legend of the king ARTHUR and EXCALIBUR ?

Anyways about the king (Artur and Excalibur) thing.... ummm maybe ther was a King Arthur but im pretty sure Excalibur wasnt a magical sword and Merlin was probably an old magician like David Copperfield not a sorcerer with great powers *oops trailing off*

if jesus would have been BLACK (maybe he was)
do you really think, that at that time... (black slavery)
they would have writen the bible as him being black ?

what do you mean by that? the bible wasnt writen in the days of slavery. Anyways the bible never officially said he was black, just that his skin was a bronzed color and that his hair was like wool in texture....take that however you want.

if yes, then you gotta a big problem, and you're just like that women in my family that think god is gonna give her everything because she gives him all her money and the rest !

that "women" is crazy when you give to the church offerings you only have to pay ten percent of what you have earned
example: your pay check is for 100 dollars, then you give ten bucks is that so hard? will you really go insane without ten dollars? some people spend way more than that at an arcade every week.. but it doesnt matter how much you give because "God loveith a cheerfull giver" so if she has more than ten percent to give then she should go for it :buttrock:

that is the only reason why i rather believe in things that i can proove and let time prooves me the rest !
you got no proofs of god existence, no REAL proof,

well what about the planets? do you belive in them?
if you answer yes then why do you belive in them?
because people have been into outter space?
how can you be sure that NASA isnt making this whole space exploration thing up?
im pretty sure you have never ben into outerspace have you Karma :laughlong:

[bloodpack]

[quoteost_uid0="iTALY"]...So blood do u believe in aliens, flying cows, or people with superpowers?[/quote]
aliens? yes! it depends if its UNIDENTIFIED or IDENTIFIED

flying cows? yes! put them to a catapult or just like lyka (the first animal in space)

people with superpowers? yes! spontaneous human combustion, telepathy, clairvoyance, mind reading...

A$$HOLE: when another religion knocks at your door, chatting about their religion, it doesnt necessarily mean they WANNA MAKE YOU FORGET YOUR RELIGION And BELIEVE IN THEM INSTEAD

theyre simply INTRODUCING their kinda faith and ITS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANNA BELIEVE OR NOT

[MasterX05]

[quoteost_uid0="blossom"]well what about the planets? do you belive in them?
if you answer yes then why do you belive in them?
because people have been into outter space?
how can you be sure that NASA isnt making this whole space exploration thing up?
im pretty sure you have never ben into outerspace have you Karma :laughlong:[/quote]
How can you say NASA is making the space and planets up?

The first planet to be discovered was Uranus by William and Caroline Herschel on 13 March 1781. It was discovered by the fact that it showed a disk when viewed through even a fairly low powered telescope. The only other planets which have been discovered are Neptune and Pluto. These were predicted using ingenious mathematical arguments based on Newton's laws of gravitation and then observed near their predicted locations.
In fact Neptune could have been discovered without the mathematical arguments. It very nearly was discovered by Galileo, the first person who could possibly have discovered a new planet. Galileo turned his telescope on the planets and was immediately fascinated by the system of Jupiter and its moons which he observed. While he was observing the Jupiter system on 28 December 1612 he recorded Neptune as an 8th magnitude star. Just over a month later on 27 January 1613, he recorded two stars in his field of view.

One was Neptune and the other a genuine star. Remarkably, Galileo observed the pair again the following night when he noted that the two stars appeared to be further apart. How close he was at that point to discovering that one of the stars was the planet Neptune.

NASA only did further research of the planets and discoverd more of them. The only thing to be fake was teh man landing on the moon when it happen, no one believed it.

[blossom]

[quoteost_uid0="MasterX05"]How can you say NASA is making the space and planets up?

The first planet to be discovered was Uranus by William and Caroline Herschel on 13 March 1781. It was discovered by the fact that it showed a disk when viewed through even a fairly low powered telescope. The only other planets which have been discovered are Neptune and Pluto. These were predicted using ingenious mathematical arguments based on Newton's laws of gravitation and then observed near their predicted locations.
In fact Neptune could have been discovered without the mathematical arguments. It very nearly was discovered by Galileo, the first person who could possibly have discovered a new planet. Galileo turned his telescope on the planets and was immediately fascinated by the system of Jupiter and its moons which he observed. While he was observing the Jupiter system on 28 December 1612 he recorded Neptune as an 8th magnitude star. Just over a month later on 27 January 1613, he recorded two stars in his field of view.

One was Neptune and the other a genuine star. Remarkably, Galileo observed the pair again the following night when he noted that the two stars appeared to be further apart. How close he was at that point to discovering that one of the stars was the planet Neptune.

NASA only did further research of the planets and discoverd more of them. The only thing to be fake was teh man landing on the moon when it happen, no one believed it.[/quote]
whoa whoa whoa Max i never said that the planets dont exist, i was just saying that by Karmas "philosophy" if he hasnt seen it himself then how can he believe it?
The same goes for atoms and cells, if you have never seen one do you believe they exist just because a scientist said so?hu Karma? :laughlong: