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 View Poll Results: Best posters of all time - Who do you think they are/were?
Zing79 2 4.55%
Quass 0 0%
TMyApp 7 15.91%
leftyfb 1 2.27%
TarkanX 4 9.09%
Nosoul4ever 1 2.27%
Troy88 3 6.82%
SSJKarma 5 11.36%
Dan Hibiki 11 25.00%
Many, many others... 10 22.73%
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Old 09-08-2002, 12:53 PM   #101
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Then stop posting in it if you want it to die.

To summarize my position: my favorite person to debate with is TarkanX. I feel that if I don't go egotistical and vote myself that he is the best poster.
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Old 09-08-2002, 01:12 PM   #102
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This is why I like 2000warrior. He keeps a level head. ^-^
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Old 09-08-2002, 01:54 PM   #103
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roll: you say that but i'm pretty sure you don't even think it !

anyway, i voted for myself just to be sure there would be no jealous about who would be the best poster around here. but seriously, i want to know who voted for me and why they did so ? you know, i have been myself for 21 year and i have never really been respected at the level i am respected in here !

yep, i definitely want to know why you all 4 voted for me !
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Old 09-08-2002, 04:29 PM   #104
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I KNOW he keeps a level-head. Also, thanks for putting me in your top-ten list, even if I was called childish. But, then again, who isn't?! ^.^
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Old 09-08-2002, 04:35 PM   #105
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We all lose our patience at one time or another. I am probably one of the most peaceful and inoffensive people on this forum, but I have a nasty side if people bring it out.
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Old 09-08-2002, 04:41 PM   #106
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exactly, Dan. I have seen yours once though, and I have yet to see 2000warrior's.
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Old 09-08-2002, 05:46 PM   #107
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[quoteost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]We all lose our patience at one time or another. I am probably one of the most peaceful and inoffensive people on this forum, but I have a nasty side if people bring it out.[/quote]
hmm never woulda thunk it

Can I have a sneak peek? (preferably not tested on me)
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Old 09-08-2002, 06:10 PM   #108
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Lol.. well I can't remember the last time I lost my temper because it's almost impossible to insult me (something Luna may never discover), but whenever people piss me off I just store it all away... But whenever all that anger does surface... it'll be hell for whoever the victom is.. :biggrin:

For those that let their anger build... often let it out in large heats of explosions.

I personally think Zing79 was/is the best poster I'll ever witness here. Why?? Well, the guy can win an agruement. I've never seen him lose one, and he posts with such command of the situation with still being able to make funny remarks here and there... Quass was/is the only guy who could match him (a shame they were always on the same side though) :biggrin:

The ONLY guy I think that could have/can match them is Dan Hibiki. Although I never saw you post with as much "command and wit," you still come dam close with that logic of yours.

Everyone else can battle it out for 4th and below.. :biggrin:
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i vote dan hibiki
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Being intelligent and wanting/having to have the last word are two different things. Don't get me wrong, there is some intelligence involved when you set out to prove someone wrong; however, I think it's thick-headedness more than anything that determines the victor in a debate.

You see, some people absolutely refuse to lose an argument. Sometimes it makes no difference how well you presented yourself, how many good points you made, or how relevant your argument was, the opposing party will completely disregard everything you said, simply because they had to win. To them, their argument wasn't an opinion, but the word. I used to be like that; I grew up.

A prime example of this, is Zing79's policy of 'having the last word,' then rudely locking the topic, preventing any further discussion. I've seen him do that on more than one occasion. If those are the debating skills you talked about, I'm not impressed.

The whole point of a debate is to try to convince the other side your point of view. But what good is debate when you don't keep an open mind going into it? How can you expect the other side to see your point of view, when you're too thick-headed to try to see where they are coming from? Everyone loses sight of this when they argue, especially when it comes to serious topics, such as the existence of God, abortion, politics, and racism. Everyone knows where they stand going into it, and nobody budges an inch. What's the point?

I'll never be good at debate for the simple fact that I make a sincere effort to understand where the other person is coming from. If they present themselves well, in a legitamite and non-badgering manner, I've been known to cave in on more than one occasion. I'll admit that there are certain things that I am very opinionated on, and won't sway very easily, but that doesn't mean that I don't take into consideration everything that the other person is saying. My goal is to resolve an argument, and not necessarily win it.

People that are good at debate won't cave in under any circumstances. They will, in a very subtle manner of course, try to make you look like you don't know what you are talking about. And if you do manage to contradict them on even the most minor point, they'll try to twist your words around. Winning debates, on the more serious level anyways, is all about how ruthless and relentless you are. Never give up, and never admit that you are wrong.

I can usually tell where an argument is headed very quickly. One of three things will happen when you argue with me. You might present yourself very well, and change my mind. I might present myself well, and change your mind. Or, the third possibility, I might present myself well, and my opponent will keep the argument going, out of pure emotion, and not logic. If this happens, I usually step out of the argument. In fact, unless it is something that I feel very strongly about, I usually step out of the argument very quickly anyways. I usually come and say my piece, and leave it at that. Arguing endlessly is pointless, and you usually just end up going in circles. I think it's better to 'plant the seed of possibility' in someone's mind, and just let them ponder it. Maybe they'll come around, maybe they won't. But you won't be any better off by badgering them to death, for the sake of looking good in front of everyone else, just to have the last word.
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