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Old 03-21-2004, 02:29 PM   #91
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...and that's where my belief comes in. ^-^
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[quoteost_uid0="m0u5y"]if god created the universe, who created god? just like the big bang theory, it doesnt make sense, creation from nothing? IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? the thing is humans dont know anything about anything just like the rest of the animals on this planet. religion and even science are just ways to make the humans feel like they have control and knowledge because the alternative answer (they have no clue of nothing) would cause them to go insane. science and religion are both human creations so they are subject to human bias. everything you know can be disproved. human error is the source of all the problems. and no computers cant figure it out since they are human creations too. infact... you could debate forever and ever about religion vs. science or any other controversial topic because anything that is controversial will always have multiple views and answers, and this is the defenite truth of all.
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Roll u've said nothing but nonsense...........ppl are ignoring my points so what do u expect. Roll ur blinded just like Joe is. God is a being that is immortal which means he doesn't have a begining or an end, he is eternal. I'm getting tired of typing so u know what debate with someone else.....cause no matter what happens we will never agree towards each other. So hola....yall!!! Ur all blinded, i will let my associate do the debating for me, i wanna talk about something else. ???
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Old 03-21-2004, 03:03 PM   #93
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[quoteost_uid0="vx_unicom"]Roll u've said nothing but nonsense...........ppl are ignoring my points so what do u expect.[/quote]
I am not ignoring your points. Right now, you're ignoring mine. If you continue to do so, I will totally ignore everything you have to say altogether.

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Roll ur blinded just like Joe is. God is a being that is immortal which means he doesn't have a begining or an end, he is eternal.
No, immortal means you're not mortal; you cannot die. It doesn't mean that you don't have a beginning. Even my 5 year old CHRISTIAN cousin knows that.

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I'm getting tired of typing so u know what debate with someone else.....cause no matter what happens we will never agree towards each other.
That was perhaps the most factual and honest statement you could have ever made in your lifetime. However, I doubt your tired of typing. I'm more convinced that you're tired of not having people who believe what you say very easily and then stand up and talk for you. Another quote will prove it.

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So hola....yall!!!
You spelled "holla" wrong. If you're going to use slang, spell it right at least. The english language is complicated enough as it is without people adding slang and then mispelling them to form new words.

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And here, my dear little boy that knows so much about so little, is my proof of what I spoke of earlier. No matter what you say, it doesn't change the fact that your motivation is affected by the fact that you don't have very many easy believers and supporters here to help you say that everyone who does not believe in christianity is stupid and/or wrong; and that they're the devil. While you let your "associate" talk for you (since you have nothing plausible to talk about in the first place, whereas he at least tries), you can talk about something else----somewhere else.
Needless to say, you're blinded by your selfless attachment to your pathetic pride.
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Alright!
Nantuko,you don't belive in religion ok...And you don't believe God made us so who started this all?And if you say evolution (monkeys)then who made the monkeys?
And Hell is not in the core!You can't see Hell or Heaven but both are true...And if you don't believe me, read the bible..And if you don't believe that ask anyone whos great great grandparents were living at that time...
Take that lil girl (i forgot her name)for instance...
She used to go to church and respected everything (back back then)and one day she saw Mary...And she was the only one who could see her..people were making fun of her and stuff..When she became older and passed out..they buried her and ..when they went to get her bones(like in 3 months)..Her flesh and her body was still there...Miracle
Btw..Im Catholic
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[quoteost_uid0="Roll"][quoteost_uid0="vx unicom"]Roll u've said nothing but nonsense...........ppl are ignoring my points so what do u expect.[/quote]
I am not ignoring your points. Right now, you're ignoring mine. If you continue to do so, I will totally ignore everything you have to say altogether.

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Roll ur blinded just like Joe is. God is a being that is immortal which means he doesn't have a begining or an end, he is eternal.
No, immortal means you're not mortal; you cannot die. It doesn't mean that you don't have a beginning. Even my 5 year old CHRISTIAN cousin knows that.

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I'm getting tired of typing so u know what debate with someone else.....cause no matter what happens we will never agree towards each other.
That was perhaps the most factual and honest statement you could have ever made in your lifetime. However, I doubt your tired of typing. I'm more convinced that you're tired of not having people who believe what you say very easily and then stand up and talk for you. Another quote will prove it.

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So hola....yall!!!
You spelled "holla" wrong. If you're going to use slang, spell it right at least. The english language is complicated enough as it is without people adding slang and then mispelling them to form new words.

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Ur all blinded, i will let my associate do the debating for me, i wanna talk about something else. ???
And here, my dear little boy that knows so much about so little, is my proof of what I spoke of earlier. No matter what you say, it doesn't change the fact that your motivation is affected by the fact that you don't have very many easy believers and supporters here to help you say that everyone who does not believe in christianity is stupid and/or wrong; and that they're the devil. While you let your "associate" talk for you (since you have nothing plausible to talk about in the first place, whereas he at least tries), you can talk about something else----somewhere else.
Needless to say, you're blinded by your selfless attachment to your pathetic pride.[/quote]
Roll........shame on u, YOU u think ur smart dont u? As a matter of fact more ppl who posted here believe that God exists and there is HEAVEN and EARTH. Atleast Joe proved his case and scientifically tried to explain to us what he means. At the other hand ur acting like Mr.Genius while ur saying things which don't make sense and and u've proved nothing.....so i would suggest that u count the numbers of ppl who disagree against ur damn case........Oh no wait, u've said nothing but get off topic......ur an ediot, ur just 16 u know nothing. :angry: :angryfire: u don't even have any points Joe does.......so lets all shoot each other abs get drunk!!! :laugh: all i've seen is blah....blah..blah...from roll.



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ppl are ignoring my points so what do u expect.
What are you talking about? I gave you PROOF of human evolution, and how did you respond? You said

"Joe ur wrong, those damn scientist are wong too......."

YOU are the one ignoring OUR points.

Like you said....why don't you actually start debating? We provide proof, and you ignore it and simply say we're wrong.

So from now on, anything you say, I will do just that. I will just say that you're wrong, and you can't prove a thing.

Because while I have been presenting cold, hard fact, YOU ignore ME. So stop complaining that we're ignoring your points. I have presented case after case supporting my arguments, and all you do is say "joe your wrong, stop ignoring me."




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More people who posted here believed that there is an all powerful God. That doesn't mean the whole world believes and/or acts the same way, nor does the majority. If you had any sense of thought, you would know that.

And another thing: I do NOT think I am smart. In fact, to be honest, after I think about what I can learn and know, I think I'm terribly stupid. But I don't need a childish dimwit trying to tell me what I already think. In fact, you shouldn't be telling other people that they are stupid when you yourself are also ignorant and unknowledgable. You're the one acting like Mr. Genius, not me.

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Oh no wait, u've said nothing but get off topic......ur an ediot, ur just 16 u know nothing. u don't even have any points Joe does.......so lets all shoot each other abs get drunk!!! all i've seen is blah....blah..blah...from roll.
I've not even gone off topic; but it would seem like that to you, because you don't tend to fully take in what is told to you. You never even tried to consider anything that anyone else has said. I haven't seen much else except mindless babble coming from you at all, and what you just posted proves it. Something for you to learn: If you're going to try and flame/humiliate someone, at least spell your names correctly, and try to use proper grammar and sentence structure. It really does help.

But let's do it your way:
You're just a kid. You know nothing.



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i hear ppl say they dont believe in GOD ! so do u pp believe in the devil if youdont believe in God??
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Mou5y You dont make sense...and roll, all this you have been saying looks like your taking joes side........ :angryfire:

And joe you dont make sense by saying give me proof that there is a heaven.....Its like saying i want proof that there is a living god..?!? ???



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[quoteost_uid0="(ShinKu_Ryu)"]Mou5y You dont make sense...and roll, all this you have been saying looks like your taking joes side........ :angryfire:

And joe you dont make sense by saying give me proof that there is a heaven.....Its like saying i want proof that there is a living god..?!? ???[/quote]
Technically, I am not taking any side. I respect all beliefs that are shared around the world, and I think it wrong to judge any of them harshly. But at the same time, if someone tries to impose their beliefs as superior, or tries to impose that what they've found to be true to them is supposed to be the ultimate truth for all people, then I will go against them for that. No one has the right to say that, no matter how many people think similarly. Even you have to admit that it's wrong to do that.

And what Joe asks for makes sense. It's.. like when a child says that there are monsters under the bed. If you can prove to them that there are none, then they'll feel better and safer, and they will calm down.
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