Important: to ensure yer computer is secure - Spyware, virus, and adware removal

[RyusRevenge]

so umm ne ideas on how i can get rid of my virus, i have the old version of trend pc cillin (98), and it doesnt even detect the virus, but the website u said where it does a scan told me i have a trojan virus, man dont tell me i have to use restorer on my comp.

[Nferno666]

i suggest you get a new version...or you can always format your comp but why would you want to do that :biggrin:

[Resident Evil]

after u install the pop up killer what do i do?

[Zpower]

Ah yes the topic of the most annoying yet simple pest called the Virus. Actually a Hacker and a Virus maker are very different. A hacker will use his "spy" and "stealth" skills to "sniff" out open ports in your system. Once in probably delete some of your programs or either route your connection to a bigger connection which holds millions of other connections and do denial of server attacks on its target site. A Virus maker is nothing more than a programmer. He/she would start by coding the Virus and then test it after that code it to multiply itself on your system. Hacking is easy if you know the basics. Anyone can hack no problem. A Virus maker on the other hand. Is more advanced than a everyday hacker. I know this because I once made a virus a very simple one to unload window files into this one guy who wanted to see if I could do it into his recycle bin.
Anyways getting back on subject here yah those are some REALLY nice sites to go to. Actually Im suprised you knew so many and detailed at that. Usually only hackers and virus makers themselves go to these sites. Good to see you guys are taking care of your comps . Really you would be suprised the percentage of people who own a pc who doesnt know what a anti-virus program is.

[SSJKarma]

LEDMONKEY: yes, coding in HEXADECIMAL is very possible, tho its a very very very unlikely used technique ! it is more used for hacking already made programs more then creating those programs !

VIPER: AIM, MSN and basically all programs that are PEER TO PEER like that are very different then those WEB SITES... web sites requires you to accept any files, but ya gotta admit it... if in AIM ya clicked the LINK that brought you to the site itself, then ya clearly accepted what was about to come at you, so in a case i was still right !

in any cases about programs like MSN or AIM, they are on SERVERS all around the the place, if one is infected, it takes on the network and travels by it !

gotta test that at home if ya want to know this... place two computers, doing a network, share both computer to have full access to each other, infect one and see that the second computer gets infected at almost the same time !

so like i said, the best thing to do against any kind of viruses, is to not accept anything that you don't know about !

if its a friend and he infected ya, then sorry about it, he got infected or he voluntarily infected you, its either one or the other, nothing else !

RYU'SREVENGE: i would check it out entirely and wouldn't save any EXECUTABLES, they are the one who gets infected ! in any cases yousbnhould look for the name of the trojan, and look for a CLEANER for it over the net. i passed so much time in the channel #AID on IRC that i know that the worst common problem people have is trojan viruses...

basically, your anti-virus software detects it, gives you the complete name for it, then go onto the net and find yourself a CLEANER for that type of trojan, it will clean it for you !

as the reason as to why it is un deinfectable, is because the whole program is the virus, only way around is to kill it !

the CLEANER should get rid of it in an instant. then you won't have to restore anything !

be on the look out for some other things...
the file you usually get has maybe too extensions, winbdows, may it be 98SE and less, will only see the last one. so it can be a trap unless you make your windows change config and show you all extension.

also, they can usually change the name of the program, thus changing his extension, but as soon as you try to run the program, even if it starts with the wrong thing, it will infect you !
also the size usually happen to be different. as in, how can a simple text file be over the meg limit ? this is impossible unless it is a book of more then 300 pages !

so again, ya gotta look for the files you receive and whihc files you execute. tell yourself that no files auto-execute itself ! ya always gotta give it the start, and then it will auto-execute itself at each start of your computer !



Edited By SSJKarma on Jan. 24 2004 at 02:26

[viper2040]

sorry to contradict ya, karma....what yer talkin about is how it SHOULD be...but there are security holes...

in fact, anyone who was here for the snow/music i set up, you were witnessing one of those loopholes....that music was downloaded to your computers temporary internet cache, and run, without your permission...its a commonly used technique for media called embedding. What if the file had had a virus in it? (of course, it didnt....it was just a simple midi file, appx 15 kb in size)

I COULD give you a link that would infect you upon clickin it--its been goin around through AIM recently. It DOES prompt you to download a file, but thats just a distraction...the virus is already on yer comp by then.

As for typing random numbers in a text file, thats a load of crap. EXE files are compiled in machine code, which cannot be written or properly viewed through notepad. When you look at an EXE file using notepad, youre NOT seeing the actual machine code...youre seeing notepads interpretation of it. EXEs CANNOT be written through notepad. Programs can be written in notepad, but they must be compiled to work. (Scripts--bat files, vbs files, are different...)


<span style='font-size:10pt;line-height:100%'>However, this is all besides the point....the topic is NOT "lets discuss how viruses are made" or "Can that virus truely infect you"....the topic is protecting your computer, and stopping spyware. </span>



Edited By viper2040 on Jan. 24 2004 at 16:38

[illfusion]

[quoteost_uid0="viper2040"][/quote]
Well I've got this problem with my homepage.. It keeps going back to the same page called "Cool Search." Yes, I've tried changing it on internet options.. But it still goes back to the same freakin page.

Any suggestions?


*If this has already been discussed then w/e tell me anyways..i'm too lazy to read all that.



Edited By illfusion on Jan. 24 2004 at 16:49

[ledmonkey]

Did you click on one of those " Do you want to set this page as your homepage" things on accedent?

Sorry about gettin off topic.....just wondering if it was true or just a myth:P



Edited By ledmonkey on Jan. 24 2004 at 17:20

[illfusion]

[quoteost_uid0="ledmonkey"][/quote]
No I don't think so..

Can anyone help?

(if you don't know what i'm talkig about, check my previous post.)

[Resident Evil]

do this illfusion,it might help:
-clean ur cache
-clean ur history
-clean ur cookies
-clean ur temp files
-reset ur homepage ( go to internet options and click use blank.