Xmen vs dragonballz - Who will win

[raidus]

Well Id assume its pretty obvious, if you know anything about any of the characters...

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If you read my post at all, you would've known why your argument was invalid. Try again.

[SSJKarma]

nantuko: that's were you're wrong about sinister !

he's much like cell and had already bean blown up to bits by cyclops to a point where he was in about 1,000,000,000 pieces ! and jean sent them flying and spreading over the earth. and guess what ?

he BRINGED himself back together ! it took lots of time to do so, but he did !
he isn't MORTAL as he is much like GARLIC jr when he asked for immortality !
even cyclops beam cannot do a big ####. it STOP HIM AND HURT HIM yes ! but it doesn't kill him ! and the only reason it does so, is because cyclops beam isn't ki or anything it's PURE ENERGY ! no one can withstand pure energy !

[raidus]

Roll, Wolverines arms could never be broken off, he has indestructable metal for bones remember. And I dont believe their ki is pure, only the spirit bomb, because they are just using their own energy, and the spirit bomb takes too long to make strong enoug.

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Raidus, you're missing the point.

[SSJKarma]

raidus: i didn't say the KI was pure energy ! i was talking about CYCLOPS OPTIC BLAST is !
it's not the same as the genki dama but still is pure energy that can pass trhu anything !
remember that cyclops throw it at the ground and runned while digging with his blast just to get gambit and wolverine back !

that simply explain why he can destroy a mountain because the only thing that keep his blast that small. is HIM because he don't want to do much damage when he use it !

[Tidus2K2]

OK OK x-men would win. I have no idea how that came. Vegeta was in control of babidi without him knowing he had no idea who was in his head plus he had a darkside to him and a low tempered side so it was easy for babidi to get into vegetas head.

Vegetas was changed a lot by the end of DBZ and if he doesn't destroy the plant there will be goku gohan or Cell.

Gambit and Cyclops attacks mean nothing to any of the DBZ character. Gambits move is just like a couple of missiles hitting one of the Z fighters and Nappa was against an army and they couldn't hurt him.

Now i wanna bring a fact from a movie because Goku can do this even outside the movie but it just showed it in the movie.
If nightcrawler teleports goku will teleport with him and the dimension that they goto for that mear second goku would kill nightcrawler in before returning. My proof when metal cooler and goku were fighting they both kept teleporting and kept on showing how they went to the other place and got back fist to fist.

Now for wolverine. It takes time for him to heal from damages done to him. He can't heal himself right the moment he gets damaged and he would get totally incinerated if gets blasted by a Kamehameha or A Masenko. Now remember wolverine had died lots of times but was kept telepathically alive so you can't say that he won't die if he gets hit by an attack from one of the Z fighters.

This mind control thing is really ticking me off. X-man has the power but he's gonna die. Xavier has trouble with the people he tries to control. And Jean is new to it so she doesn't have enough power to kill one of the Z fighters. While she is manipulating one the other would simply blast her to another dimension. Xavier to my knowledge might be able to control like 4 of them but right when he gets them under his control krillin will cut him in half with his destructo disc.

If not broily then lets use cell. If cell gets close to anyone you know as well as I do tht he can obsorb his enemy. Just fro the fun of it he'll teleport behind juggernaut and suck out all the juice form his body including the Gem.

When you think about x-men you use everything in itall the characters and all there strenght. If you use the DBz characters at full strenght or all the other charaters affiliating with DBZ. DBZ will crush X-men.

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I'm not using Regular Jean Grey here. I'm talking about Pheonix. You know, the entity that had the mind power to hold back apacolypse while Cable excorsized (sp?) him. You could control the entire DBZ cast with her mental abilities. And you keep forgetting Onslaught. I stated it before, and I will state it again. He has the ability to cause amnesia, memory loss, and temporary Paralysis both mind-wise and physically.

Oh and as the Gem is not a biotic thing, it cannot be drained of power, therefore keeping Juggernaut alive, and well sustained.

[SSJKarma]

so true for juggy !
and juggy throwed out the gem out into space to be sure no one ever messed with his powers !
cell wouldn't be able to absorb juggy as he would need to pass thru his armor... and as i know NOTHING HAD EVEN past thru it ! it made a big bunt in it but it never made a hole in it !

the gem wouldn't be absord as roll said ! CELL can't absorb what isn't biological !
the powers of juggy are too much !
and yes, juggy would resist any attacks of any DBZ chars !

and tidus2k2...
GOKU and METAL COOLER weren't teleporting !
they were just too fast for the normal eyes to see them !

nightcrawler would survived in that other universe but at the speed it goes on ! GOKU wouldn't have time to kill him before he gets back as it is INSTANT ! and goku would get trapped in that other universe if it wasn't for nightcrawler opening him the door to this one again !

night crawler can cause them way too much damage and i am glad to know someone who had made me think of fav !
nightcrawler is one of the SIMPLE X-MEN that can kill any DBZ chars !

when he teleports it makes an explosion (a little but an explosion) he could simply teleport aside them and do it indefinitely ! thus making any DBZ chars unable to hit him but still DBZ chars would take full damage !

and they cannot sense him as it is TELEPORTATION ! so there is no way they can know where he will be appearing !

[Tidus2K2]

OOKK. Now to bring in the big guns for Juggernaut. Read

Onslaught literally pulled the Crimson Gem out of Cain's body and put him inside it. Inside the Gem, Cain journeyed through his part, and found out that he was the avatar of Cytorrak on Earth. Cytorrak wanted to use Cain as a host, but Cain, through sheer force of will, destroyed the animated statue representing the evil god and returned to Earth, stronger than ever, but less in control, and destined to destroy everything in his path. After OZT, he actually showed up at the Mansion with a lawyer and tried to weasel the team out of Xavier's money, given that the Prof was missing. He was ignored, because everyone was trying to save Cyclops's life, and got ticked off, but when he saw the ragged condition of the team, he left, saying that they'd fall apart within a few weeks anyway. Later, Cain heard of a second gem in Korea, and went to get it, but fell into a trap laid by the Chejo-Do clan. They used the second gem to suck the power out of Juggy, leaving him a withered shadow of his former self. However, and Black Tom's request, Gambit, Storm and Shadowcat stole the gem back. Unfortunately, the second gem was imbued with the evil of Cytorrak, and Cain was possessed. He began a rampage that led him to actually break down the barriers between dimensions, and left our reality altogether. The X-Men were called in to stop him by the Oktid, the denizens of that plane, again at Black Tom's request. In reality, however, it was the Trion, the ruling "gods" of that dimension who were using their sequestered "dark side" to control Cain's body, hoping to get the X-Men to destroy him and rid themselves of their own evil. Xavier and Wolverine managed to enter Cain's mind, where they convinced him to re-take control of the power of the Juggernaut, which he did. He did not leave that dimension with the X-Men, but he somehow managed to get back to Earth to help Black Tom attack the kids of Generation X.

OK happy it's possible and i'm betting one of the dbz characters could do it.

Now for phoenix please specify which one your talking about a host or the entity that helps out a teleknetic mutant.

Thor burst through Onslaught and physically removed Xavier from the villain. However, this did not slow Onslaught down; in fact, once he was no longer tethered to his original host, Onslaught became a being of pure psionic energy. Tapping into Nate Grey's mind to learn how the Apocalypse of his time took over the world, Onslaught realized that neither men nor mutants were "worthy" to live on Earth, and so decided to obliterate them all. Using Franklin's awesome power, Onslaught created a second sun in the sky. While Storm and Thor tried to minimize the climactic damage, the Hulk had Phoenix shut down his Banner persona, and became a raging beast intent on stopping Onslaught. The two fought, and the Hulk even broke Onslaught's armor, but it didn't matter. Onslaught had evolved into pure thought. The heroes realized that matter was needed to contain Onslaught, so Thor flew into the torrent of psionic energy. When he proved insufficient, the rest of the non-mutant heroes joined him (mutant matter would only have fed Onslaught, who was a mutant himself), sacrificing their lives to defeat one of the most powerful beings ever.
So now you'll have to specify which form of him as well. It's kinda like a kick in the butt isn't it.