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Old 10-12-2002, 04:48 PM   #41
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[quoteost_uid0="ss4goku"]dbz would crush x-men because when goku and vegta are super sayin4 they would just blow them up and broly ssj4 would just destory beacause if he tryed to he would blow up the whole galaxy and gotenks would destory them plus vegto,gohan,majin buu,evil buu,super buu,kid buu,goten,andtrunks etc...... [/quote]
You said this in the DBZ vs SF thing too.

BROLLY DOESN'T GO SSJ4!!! WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS FROM?


and I've also heard ppl make references to the Dead Zone, and brolli, and whatever, but that stuff never happened in the manga, and therefore isn't official, and therefore never happened.

and to whoever said Banshee would kill Piccolo and Bishop would kill everyone:

Banshee definately wouldn't KILL Piccolo with the scream, but due to Piccolo's sensitive ears, he'd be severely disabled. However, if he ripped his ears off, he wouldn't even have to try in order to kill Banshee.

And Bishop can indeed absorb energy, but if he absorbed too much, it prolly would be real dangerous. I sincerely doubt that Bishop could absorb a Final Flash attack or a Kamehameha
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Roll: DBZ characters blowing up the planet = trump card to make it a draw. All X-Men AND dbz char. would get killed.

Just something they "can" do if they ever get tired of gettin' their ass's kicked.

gotenks: Do you remember that Piccolo destroyed the Moon when he was around power-level 1000-3000 or so.

Now, what's to stop him from destroying a planet when he gets up around 70 MILLION after fusing with Kami?

Vegeta was able to destroy the planet Arlia with his fingers, and was only @ 9,000.

Freiza was able to destroy planets in his untransformed state with a single finger at around power level 500-600.

Now.. considering that, it really depends at what point in DBZ you're talking about. If it's right B4-during the Sayain Saga... then NONE of Earth's Special Forces could even come close to destroying the planet ('cept perhaps Goku using KaiKen x 3).

Anywhere during/after the Android saga, however... many/most of the dbz fighters could destroy a planet about Earth's size.



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[quoteost_uid0="2000warrior"]Roll: DBZ characters blowing up the planet = trump card to make it a draw. All X-Men AND dbz char. would get killed.

Just something they "can" do if they ever get tired of gettin' their ass's kicked.

gotenks: Do you remember that Piccolo destroyed the Moon when he was around power-level 1000-3000 or so.

Now, what's to stop him from destroying a planet when he gets up around 70 MILLION after fusing with Kami?

Vegeta was able to destroy the planet Arlia with his fingers, and was only @ 9,000.

Freiza was able to destroy planets in his untransformed state with a single finger at around power level 500-600.

Now.. considering that, it really depends at what point in DBZ you're talking about. If it's right B4-during the Sayain Saga... then NONE of Earth's Special Forces could even come close to destroying the planet ('cept perhaps Goku using KaiKen x 3).

Anywhere during/after the Android saga, however... many/most of the dbz fighters could destroy a planet about Earth's size.[/quote]
-When Vegeta destroyed Planet Arlia, he was at 18,000. however, Arlia could have been a small planet to begin with, and thus made it easier to destroy.

-Furiza was at 530,000, and he was able to do that without even trying.

-Goku KaiokenX3 could NOT destroy an earth-sized planet. he was only at around PL 24,000. However, he COULD destroy a planet the size of earth if he was fighting during the Cell Games. The other Z-Fighters said so too
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Nantuko Joe: Well, I never was a planet nameck junkie...

But I think I can back up what I posted with some reasonable logic...

When Vegeta destroyed Arlia.. I don't recall him using that blue energy move (whatever it's called). Although he may have used it.. he did destroy the planet with his finger tips.

Dam.. mispelled Furiza's name AND missed his powerlevel (forgot to put the "thousand" on the end). I meant to say "between 500-600 thousand", since I couldn't remember his exact power level.

Well.. Goku @ KaiokenX3 was/is stronger then Vegeta was when he was about to blow up the Earth using his Galla Gun... Gamma.... Ganna... damit can't spell it.

..Anyways, I'll just roll over on my belly and submit since I only seem to have a faded knowledge of stuff I saw once or twice about a year ago...
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well...like i said. it IS possible that arlia could be only the size of earth's moon, and that is the reason why Vegeta destroyed it so easily.

now, IF arlia was the exact same size and density as earth, then YES, goku could destroy a planet with a KaiokenX3 powered-up attack
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Old 10-13-2002, 06:40 PM   #46
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WARNING!! DO NOT READ UNLESS U WANT TO KNOW THE END OF THE BUU SAGA

well i heard that mystic gohan is so dam strong that when he turns ss he dangers of blowing up the earth. And uub can kick ALL the x-men ass, and if u dont know who uub is he is the rebirth of kid buu after goku did his sprit bomb on him killing him. And some years later 7 I believe the tournerment rolled around. And of course goku was in it and he notice a strange black boy's powerful chi. when goku fought him he knew it was magin kid buu the good version and they were both equal in power. So basicly goku had a better idea, so he took uub and went away to train him and i guess he became apart of the Z fighters.
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BANSHEE CAN kill the DBZ chars !
think that way...
he YELL like hell and disable everyone.
then he just cut their head off while they are lying on the ground helpless !
but still it is a little hard to pull.
anyway, he would be an hell of a hard person to kill !

Gambit can charge things like i said with raw ennergy he cannot use PERSON energy to do so as the energy in a person isn't in RAW form ! but he can still takes the RAW energy AROUND the person and charge that same person ! but like i said before, he would disable himself as it is way too much at once !

Roll: in THIS kind of fight, she is useless !
why ?
- can't blast that much she can cause damage enough to hurt a little people. she does have blown up a small part of a metallic wall !
- she is a child with no fighting ability at all, thus making her a really easy person to defeat !
- yes, she can blind, but she also need to be close to them !
- it needs about a thousand little fireworks to make her able to do real damage ! as you said it is like already her limit !
- she can't work alone, she isn't a fighter so she would be able to fight only if she teamed up with someone !

that's pretty much why i said she was useless in THIS fight !

as for BISHOP, no, is absorbing power has no limit.
why i say so, he can absorb cyclops biggest beam and relaunch it ! but you're right about one point. he can't stay with it, he has to rethrow it as soon as he has aborbed it ! or he would explode in a burst of energy.

and there is way too much MUTANT that can actually kill DBZ chars like goku and vegeta !
APOCALYPSE for an example, he is a god-like creature that can't be destroyed in any way. he can pretty much live in space. and can take the most powerfull blast of them all and still not having a single scratch ! but i think APOCALYPSE is out of the way ! just like the WATCHER, SILVER SURFER, THE PLANET EATER (damn his name, i can't remember it)

if we don't talk about all MARVEL chars, then DBZ has lots more chance to survive ! but if you include all MARVEL chars in the marvel universe ! they are simply no match for too much mutant in this world has some mutants have the ability to morph into things and other have the ability to CHANGE the earth to their likings !
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Who do you think would win @ these?? (plz don't jump on me for misspelling most/all names).

1. Beast having an intellectual debate with Goku... :biggrin:

2. Rouge attempting to "touch" Muten Roshi... Roshi "attempting" to resist.

3. Gambit playing poker Yamcha, Olong, and Bulma.

4. Colassus arm wrestling with Tien.

5. Wolverine and Vegeta see which of them has more patience by standing next to Hercule for a few minutes.

6. Banshee having a screaming contest with Chi-Chi.

7. Hulk and Piccolo seeing who would get the medical staff's attention first by standing around at the same Tenchia Bouidokan that takes place after the Cell Games.

8. Hercule and Warpath, seeing who can run away from danger faster... :biggrin:

9. Vegeta, Goten, Trunks, Goku, and Gohan having an eating contest with every single X-Men there is/has been.
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[quoteost_uid0="SSJKarma"]BANSHEE CAN kill the DBZ chars !
think that way...
he YELL like hell and disable everyone.
then he just cut their head off while they are lying on the ground helpless !
but still it is a little hard to pull.
anyway, he would be an hell of a hard person to kill !

Gambit can charge things like i said with raw ennergy he cannot use PERSON energy to do so as the energy in a person isn't in RAW form ! but he can still takes the RAW energy AROUND the person and charge that same person ! but like i said before, he would disable himself as it is way too much at once !

Roll: in THIS kind of fight, she is useless !
why ?
- can't blast that much she can cause damage enough to hurt a little people. she does have blown up a small part of a metallic wall !
- she is a child with no fighting ability at all, thus making her a really easy person to defeat !
- yes, she can blind, but she also need to be close to them !
- it needs about a thousand little fireworks to make her able to do real damage ! as you said it is like already her limit !
- she can't work alone, she isn't a fighter so she would be able to fight only if she teamed up with someone !

that's pretty much why i said she was useless in THIS fight !

as for BISHOP, no, is absorbing power has no limit.
why i say so, he can absorb cyclops biggest beam and relaunch it ! but you're right about one point. he can't stay with it, he has to rethrow it as soon as he has aborbed it ! or he would explode in a burst of energy.

and there is way too much MUTANT that can actually kill DBZ chars like goku and vegeta !
APOCALYPSE for an example, he is a god-like creature that can't be destroyed in any way. he can pretty much live in space. and can take the most powerfull blast of them all and still not having a single scratch ! but i think APOCALYPSE is out of the way ! just like the WATCHER, SILVER SURFER, THE PLANET EATER (damn his name, i can't remember it)

if we don't talk about all MARVEL chars, then DBZ has lots more chance to survive ! but if you include all MARVEL chars in the marvel universe ! they are simply no match for too much mutant in this world has some mutants have the ability to morph into things and other have the ability to CHANGE the earth to their likings ![/quote]
Banshee: The DBZ characters, though they cant move faster than light, can surely move faster than sound. They could dodge Banshee's sonic scream to run behind him and disable him. And cut their heads off? Whatever...

Gambit: have no idea what you said, but this RAW energy thing? Sure, he could charge up like a car or a boulder and throw it, but I'm pretty sure any DBZ character (even yamucha) could take a charged up object and still be able to fight

Bishop: Umm...I'm pretty sure that Vegeta's Final Flash is a LOT STRONGER than Cyclops' biggest optic beam.

Apocalypse: I already gave him credit as being able to possibly (big maybe) kill the DBZ characters, he'd give Goku, Vegetto, and Gotenks a run for there money

All marvel characters: That wouldn't be a fair fight, woud it? There are only a handful of DBZ fighters, but there are hundreds and hundreds of Marvel characters
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