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Tarkan, I was just about ready to accept your pls for Furiza (that at 100% power form 4 he was around 20 million), but then I remembered something: Goku was at 90,000 max while fighting Ginyu. After he healed (and went SSJ), then he must have been at 20 million to combat Furiza, right?
He was at 90,000 max against Ginyu yes, then he got healed, since he was beaten up BADLY, then the healing gave him a huge power-up to around 600,000. And when he first went SSJ for the first time, he got a huge increase. SSJ Goku was even with form 4 freiza at max.

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So, how the hell could Goku go from a 90 thousand max to a 20 million max in the matter of a few episodes? Here, I have charted Goku's various growths during DBZ:
Goku was healed in the healing room, then SSJ gave him a HUGE increase...

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Goku Vs: Radditsu (w/o weighted clothing): 416
Goku's Kamehameha: 924
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Now, we can consider his power level using the Kame Hame Ha as his max power. Now, the next level we have for Goku is while fighting Nappa. At his max power (after powering up), he was around 8,000. That would indicate a 850% increase in his power (if my math is correct).
He was "over 8,000", around 8,100 when fighting Nappa, he got up there because of Kaio-sama(king kai), Kaio-sama's training was special training. He got to learn the kaio-ken, and the Genki-dama, and was sustaining in gravity....

His Kamehameha wasn't his max power, or he'd be using 924 the whole fight... the kamehameha when the power level was raised is called dormant ki. Dormant ki is when you can raise your power level by doing other such attacks like kamehameha, and so on... and Goku got an increase of about 19x.

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Now, not counting Kaio-kens during this period, his max was around 8,000. The next level we have for him is at 90,000 on namek. Going from 8,000 to 90,000 would indicate around a 1,100% increase in his power.
That's because Goku trained in harsh gravity level, he trained in 100x earths gravity! That's an increase of about 11x.

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Now, we can't determine the next time Goku maxes out without using the Kaio-ken, because he was using it the entire fight with Furiza.
Well Goku was using kk*10 against freiza form 4 at 30%, and was almost even with Freiza, just deduct Gokus power by 10, and whatever freiza's PL is, Goku at kk*10 is close to it.....

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Therefore, the next max level we would have for Goku would be SSJ Goku at his max.
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Since you have Furiza listed at around 20 million, let's assume that Goku was also at 20 million (they were pretty evenly-matched during the fight. That would indicate a 22,200% increase in his power. 22,200%! In about a day! For Goku to increase the 850% to fight Nappa, it took a whole year. To increase the 1,100% increase it took I think a month, while training under extremely harsh conditions (100x earths gravity). Now, for someone to make a 22,200% increase just by being healed and transforming in a day or so seems extremely unrealistic, even compared to normal DBZ growth levels.
That's because SSJ level was a huge increase, since he turned SSJ for the first time... now the SSJ form decreases each time, it went from like 60x increase or whatever in the frieza saga, to a 4x increase in the Buu saga(proven by kiris, and weights).
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