Neo vs ryu - Who would win in a fight

[Nantuko Joe]

the answer is no !
neo can do a lot of things in the matrix...
but really, if he doesn'T even see the matrix or doesn't be even close to it ! he cannot do #### about it

He was able to hear things in the outside world while in the Matrix, and was able to see into the Matrix when he was in the real world. This all happened. Therefore, if he could do simple things such as hearing and seeing w/o being in contacts with the Matrix, then he could indeed develop the ability to INTERACT with the Matrix, even though he's not connected.

i continu to say that if the mind knows it, the body can follow to some extent !
example:
in the matrix he they can jump from building to building !
in realaity those rules they bent to do it cannot be bent now, so they cannot !
but fighting with martial arts that doesn't requires those high stunts is very very very very possible even in the real world !
true that neo cannot do high flying stunts while outside the matrix, but that doesn't mean he cannot use what he learned in the real world !

NO! You're wrong there...jumping from building to building in the Matrix requires NO bending of the rules. The only one that can bend the rules of the Matrix is Neo. Yet, Trinity and Morpheus were both able to jump great distances (one building to the other) with ease. Although Morpheus talked much about bending and breaking the rules and controls, he was never able to do it. The only ones capable of breaking the Matrix's rules and controls are Neo, Agents, and Smith (as well as the ghosts)

so again, why wouldn't neo be able to use his martial arts techniques in the real world ?
how hard is it to do the simple moves we saw in the first movie ?

Because like I said, although the mind knows how to do them, the body probably lacks the ability to do them PHYSICALLY. Take viper's example for instance. His whole life he was able to WALK, RUN, SWIM, do anything a normal person is able to do while INSIDE the Matrix. However, when he was unplugged, his muscles had to be rebuilt in order for him to do those things OUTSIDE the matrix. This proves my point: the mind may know HOW to do things (such as walk), but the body cannot PERFORM them (Neo is unable to walk and move because his muscles are NOT CAPABLE of doing it).

i add this because of your first comment about my theory and the fact that morpheus cannot do it as well !
didn't morpheus said that all neo had to do was to actually free his mind to be able to do everything he wants in the matrix ?
if so, then why is morpheus still not capable of doing the same things as neo ?
trinity as well if ya want to...
they say that neo just need to believe he can do it to be able to do so...
then why isn't the others capable of doing while they were actually been doing this for the last years ?
that's what makes the MATRIX STORY looking like bullpoop !
so i say, the bond between neo and agent smith is there, but not between morpheus and agent smith. so it didn't affect morpheus !

To say the bond only affects Neo and Smith and not Morpheus is stupid...it leaves a HUGE hole in your theory. Morpheus tells Neo to free his mind, and if he can believe he can do the martial arts, then he CAN do the martial arts. If he can believe he can jump one building to another, then he CAN do it. Neo is capable of doing HIS abilities because he is not like Morpheus...he is the reincarnation of the One.

About the bond...there is no bond. WHy? Smith said that some of Neo's programming RUBBED OFF on him. What happened was that Smith gained the information on how to replicate, etc. They are not connected. It was a TRANSFER of information. If I send you an email, our computers are NOT connected, there is no bond between our computers. Therefore, if you believe that Smith using his replication on Neo and having it interrupted gave Neo new abilities, then you'd have to say that Morpheus would have gotten the same abilities, because he underwent the same procedure.