U.s. policy of "striking first"

[DA_VIPA]

scorponok u dont know the 'just war' theory? go find info on it then reply

[bloodpack]

[quoteost_uid8="Nantuko Joe"][color=greenost_uid8]...we were NOT meddling in anyone's affairs. We were NOT being "too confident" (what the hell is that supposed to mean anyway.) We just did not expect a group of fcuking afghanis to hijack our planes and use them to blow up buildings.[/colorost_uid8][/quoteost_uid8]
ye right, you're Bush's personal bodyguard, you know his whereabouts every single day :biggrin:

[quoteost_uid8][color=greenost_uid8]I don't know where this "over confidence" thing is coming from...[/colorost_uid8][/quoteost_uid8]

you said it yourself, US is the best country
what do you call that?
inferiority complex?!

[Nantuko Joe]

Saying "The US is the best country" is not a statement of overconfidence. I doubt you ppl know what that word really means.

overconfidence
\O"ver*con"fi*dence\, n. 1) Excessive confidence; too great reliance or trust: 2) total certainty or greater certainty that circumstances warrant [syn: certitude, cocksureness]

Now, as far as you saying that "overconfidence" is what caused 9/11 does not make sense.

"We have no idea that they were gonna attack us" is not overconfidence. And example of what IS overconfidence is:

"Sure, they SAY they're gonna attack us, but they're really not. They don't have the balls."

THAT is overconfidence. And THAT was never said, because we had no forewarning.

And once again, I said WERE not meddling, DID NOT have hidden agendas. I'M STILL TALKING ABOUT VIETNAM YOU FOOL! BUSH WASN'T PRESIDENT DURING VIETNAM, SO WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME BEING HIS BODYGUARD! READ THE POST FIRST!!!

[Scorponok]

[quoteost_uid0="DA_VIPA"]scorponok u dont know the 'just war' theory? go find info on it then reply[/quote]
I read it, you must have misinterpereted me. You make it sound like in war, civilians must NOT be killed. That is just stupid. I'm not saying the army should go out of their way and start massacring, but in war people get hurt, duh.. It's not some event that people have where they all abide by these rules that were layed out. Even if the US did go by this... "just war" theory, what would Iraq do? I'm sure they would do the same :biggrin: weird how we all are having our own little debates.



Edited By Scorponok on Jan. 30 2003 at 18:11

[bloodpack]

oh please Nantuko, dont call me fool
lets make this debate clean
using bad words would only prove you americans are war freaks besides, i might say bad words to you too in return
and might result to flaming=ban
you dont want that to happen, do you?

stick to the topic...

[SSJKarma]

nantuko: who are you to know what would've happenned in the future of things ?

maybe if you didn't interven, mayber the RUSSIAN would have made the country a better place to live then what YOUR GOVERMENT made it looks like !

DEMOCRATIE better then COMMUNISM ?
i doubt that... why ?
because COMMUNISM is one extremity and CAPITALISM is at the other side. and you know DEMOCRATY is total bullpoop ! since when has the governement ever asked what we wanted.

your country is a democraty... my butt !
if your president declare WARS to another counrty and the PEOPLE say no to it, you all know your president will still go in war anyway disregarding the PEOPLES opinions ! you call democraty !

communism was something bad, i agree, but at least it worked the right way and RUSSIA was strong, now they got flipINGLY almost reduced to nothing as a country just cause YOU (US) thought communism was bad !

OVER CONFIDENT... (USA IS THE STRONGEST COUNRTY OF THEM ALL) it is writen in all magasine, and other media's ! that's what made you OVER-CONFIDENT ! your president is always thinking, COME ON, TREATH US, WE WILL HAVE TO DESTROY YOU AFTER THAT AND WE HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO DO SO ! if that's not called OVER-CONFIDENCE then i am a MARTIAN !

your country is always bragging on how it can easily vaporised another counrty, in all those wars you made, you haven't even changed a bit about that OVER-CONFIDENCE ! that's what i was talking about !

again, your country not doing anything bad...
are you working for the president or something, do you have access to EVERY SINGLE PROJECT FILES ? if no then stop saying your country is all good cause that is only your opinion which is based on the fact your living there ! i maybe not living in the US, i maybe not knowing what happens there, but at least i don't say such stupidies like you do !

i live in canada, do you see me bragging about how we are the best country around the globe, do you see me bragging how we must "HELP" the other countries by entering in WAR ? do you see me say such things ?

no, i don't cause i know my counrty is far from being the best of them all !
DEMOCRATY = bullpoop (i know it, you know it, everyone knows it)
DICTATURE = bullpoop, but we all know it works !
COMMUNISM = same as above !

so what's the middle of all that huh ?
nothing proves that COMMUNISM would have done HORRIBLE things to the world, just like nothing proves DEMOCRATY is all good ! EVENTS in life are always movings like butterflyes, never going straight !

you think thing would have gotten wrong, but they actually could have been way better. yes you couldn't know those planes would have hit those towers, but how could you know if SADDAM is really going to do anything ? after all, it has been like that for 10 years as YOURSELF said already ! so why would it be different this time ? neither do i have proof that he will not do anything with those "SUPPOSED BOMBS" !

so how could be acting like that ?
because you "THINK" as in "OPINIONS" that you must do that for the safety of everyone !
that's all opinions nothing more, now i'll stop this ####### retard debate as it is not based on anything ! and we have been getting off topic for about 3 pages !

i'm still thinking your a little biased in your statements as you always seems to bring OPINIONS in front, not facts !

[bloodpack]

<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>[bost_uid10][color=redost_uid10]THE US's HIDDEN AGENDA[/colorost_uid10][/bost_uid10]</span>

[iost_uid10]**bringing out the crystal ball, uttering...hummm,hummmm[/iost_uid10] :biggrin:

in the coming centuries or so, there will be great shortage of oil deposits in the planet, more countries will struggle to obtain every last drop of this precious source of energy

other countries will study other source of energy
while others will compete in discovering new oil supplies

[iost_uid10]**reality check[/iost_uid10]

now lets go back to reality...
its obvious that oil is the most used source of energy in this planet
although we have solar, geothermal, hydroelectric, wind as sources of energy, oil is that MOST used...

fact is OIL came from earth's natural process of converting dead animal/plants/organisms remains to black liquid substance
and it took millions of years for this process
there will come a time that there will be oil shortage

Middle East (including Iraq) is the planets' rich producer/supplier of this liquid
they are the richest country, and naturally, they need to protect their wealth like building arms

US needs their vengeance for the 9/11 tragedy (of course)but dont you think their using this as an EXCUSE to take control of this "wealth"?!

heh, thats what i thought...

PLUS

if you gonna check every country on this planet, you will find US military bases on almost every country

you say this is to ensure SAFETY and protect smaller nations from the threats of terrorism
logically, this is a SLY way of expanding your empire!!!

small nations is at great risk by the military bases you have established, i pray someday youll not have a tyrant ruler
bcoz when this happens, you can easily take dominance in the entire planet!

now that the US/Iraq war looms on the horizon, countries with your military bases (like mine) is at risk of enemy attack and WE ARE CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE !!!

Filipino working in the Middle East might lose their jobs/livelihood or even worst...LIVES!!!

wake up Nantuko
war is not a joke, your president better think 99 times
if ppl die, you can no longer revive them!!!
this is not a DBZ movie and there is no dragon balls!!!
not even your BALLS can help them!!!

IM AGAINST WAR!!! :angryfire:

[Yasback]

must this bias discussion go on?

the dominant proportion of you people are americans, thus for war!

there's no point in continuing.. i think i know the outcome of this discussion in this forum which is umm unbalanced.. you have not considered the "target" audience..

anyway, do whatever you will.. seeya

[DA_VIPA]

scoroponok sadam hussein is allegedly holding biolgical weapons if he sends them into cities like new york, london many innocent ppl will die for no reason only ppl who want 2 fight in the war should die not ppl that just want 2 get on woth their lives..

[DarkOmega]

I think buash is jsut after the oil but 9/11 showed us they arent afraid of the states and that they will attack so i realy dont have an opion but CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG ???