Street fighter vs. dragon ball(not counting gt.... - Or anything contradtcing the manga) - Page 65

Dan Hibiki · 11-20-2002, 12:07 PM

I simply don't care anymore. Absolute Zero stops ALL reactions of ANY kind. I said that Gill would lower the temperature AROUND the lab to Absolute Zero, not lower the temperature of the Lab itself.

princevegetam · 11-20-2002, 01:08 PM

doesn't anyone answer my posts?

gill cannot significantly lower temperature INSTANTLY, it'll take him some time.

where does it say that gill can use his powers while wondering around as a soul without a body?

Nantuko Joe · 11-20-2002, 03:00 PM

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ost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]I simply don't care anymore. Absolute Zero stops ALL reactions of ANY kind. I said that Gill would lower the temperature AROUND the lab to Absolute Zero, not lower the temperature of the Lab itself.[/quote]
Dude, isn't Absolute Zero ZERO DEGREES FARENHEIT, WHICH IS THE SAME AS ZERO DEGREES CENTIGRADE? Now, if I can hang out in a confined envoronment where the temperature is negative forty degrees farenheit, which is lower than absolute zero and come out an hour later without being affected. Now, apparently if temperature COLDER than absolute zero doesn't stop reactions, then Absolute Zero would not stop reactions.

And even if, by some miracle of physics, you ARE right, you still have to try and counterdebate my other three methods.

Roll · 11-20-2002, 04:35 PM

...This isn't a debate any more. It's just a big fight now.

...Oh, and Rose can use her soul power to control objects. Since Buu has no brain, or organs, then he can still be considered an object (Just like Hsienko's scarf. It's alive, but it's still an object). And if that doesn't help, get Tessa to eliminate him from that world with HER magic. This may or may not be my last argument.

Dan Hibiki · 11-20-2002, 09:52 PM

I can't remember exact numbers, Joe, but Absolute Zero is a temperature in which it is so very cold that it is impossible to get any colder. All molecular movement ceases. In the Kelvin scale, it is 0

Nantuko Joe · 11-21-2002, 06:08 AM

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...Oh, and Rose can use her soul power to control objects. Since Buu has no brain, or organs, then he can still be considered an object (Just like Hsienko's scarf. It's alive, but it's still an object). And if that doesn't help, get Tessa to eliminate him from that world with HER magic. This may or may not be my last argument.

He may be an OBJECT, but everyone is technically an object. I am an object. My friend's cat is an object. Your mom is an object. Now, if you want to use object, you probably mean "inanimate" object, like a desk or a chair. However, even IF Buu is classified as an object, he's still an "animate" object, and thusly would not be affected. It would be like trying to use her "object" power to control me or my friend's cat or your mom.

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princevegetam, Gill can change temperatures instantly. Temperature is merely the motion of molecules. Using his power to control the elements, he can instantly accellerate or stop the molecules in the air to change the temperature. Instantly stop the molecules, and you get Absolute Zero.

[color=green]Instantly stopping the molecules would not make the temperature Absolute Zero INSTANTLY, it would be very quick (like a half a sec) but it can't happen instantly. INSTANT=without the passage of time. INSTANT is Goku's Shunkan Idou and Kaiobito's Kai Kai. THAT is instant. However, for the temperature to make a drastic change (from room temperature to -273

Roll · 11-21-2002, 07:10 AM

If Gohan can kill Cell, and Gill can kill Gohan, than all there is left (To my mind and to the argument you either ignored or missed) is that Tessa would eliminate Buu back into that egg shell barrier thing using her magic, and Gill would be able to fight Cell without disruption from Buu. Disagree? Agree? Either way, this path to victory is true.

Nantuko Joe · 11-21-2002, 07:15 AM

Disagree. Buu can only be re-trapped in the egg shell by Bibidi or Babidi. And who the hell is this Tessa you speak of, and what are her powers? And remember, ANYONE who is killed by the SF fighters can be brought back by Lord Enma. And if Gill is distracted by someone, and Cell sneaks up from behind, Cell can easily vacuum up Gill.

Roll · 11-21-2002, 07:29 AM

Tessa is a spell user just like Bibidi and Babidi, but with some greater spells since she has been practicing her magic on Street Fighters. Because of her recent adventures, she now has the ability to change people into other forms regardless of what they want. I got's to go to school, so I'll post more soon...

Nantuko Joe · 11-21-2002, 07:35 AM

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ost_uid0="Roll"]Because of her recent adventures, she now has the ability to change people into other forms regardless of what they want.[/quote]
Other forms? How do you mean? And how can you say she has greater spells than Bibidi and Babidi just because he's been practicing them on Street Fighters? Babidi was thousands of years old when he died, and we never saw the extent of his sorcery. Bibidi was probably even more powerful, for he was the one who actually created Buu. Now if Bibidi was revived, he'd theoretically have the power to create a second Buu, and that would be a HUGE advantage for DBZ...

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11-20-2002, 12:07 PM	#641
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I simply don't care anymore. Absolute Zero stops ALL reactions of ANY kind. I said that Gill would lower the temperature AROUND the lab to Absolute Zero, not lower the temperature of the Lab itself. __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

11-20-2002, 01:08 PM	#642
princevegetam Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 1,690 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	doesn't anyone answer my posts? gill cannot significantly lower temperature INSTANTLY, it'll take him some time. where does it say that gill can use his powers while wondering around as a soul without a body? __________________ [quote:sig_uid]the strong survive, and the weak just die...[/quote:sig_uid] http://www.boomspeed.com/ssjvegetam/Iori2.jpg

11-20-2002, 03:00 PM	#643
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]I simply don't care anymore. Absolute Zero stops ALL reactions of ANY kind. I said that Gill would lower the temperature AROUND the lab to Absolute Zero, not lower the temperature of the Lab itself.[/quote] Dude, isn't Absolute Zero ZERO DEGREES FARENHEIT, WHICH IS THE SAME AS ZERO DEGREES CENTIGRADE? Now, if I can hang out in a confined envoronment where the temperature is negative forty degrees farenheit, which is lower than absolute zero and come out an hour later without being affected. Now, apparently if temperature COLDER than absolute zero doesn't stop reactions, then Absolute Zero would not stop reactions. And even if, by some miracle of physics, you ARE right, you still have to try and counterdebate my other three methods.

11-20-2002, 04:35 PM	#644
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	...This isn't a debate any more. It's just a big fight now. ...Oh, and Rose can use her soul power to control objects. Since Buu has no brain, or organs, then he can still be considered an object (Just like Hsienko's scarf. It's alive, but it's still an object). And if that doesn't help, get Tessa to eliminate him from that world with HER magic. This may or may not be my last argument. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

11-20-2002, 09:52 PM	#645
Dan Hibiki Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: City. House. Warm house. Posts: 1,510 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I can't remember exact numbers, Joe, but Absolute Zero is a temperature in which it is so very cold that it is impossible to get any colder. All molecular movement ceases. In the Kelvin scale, it is 0 __________________ With great power comes great responsibility. Details, details... I'll show you power! I'll make you cry like when my goldfish died!!!

11-21-2002, 07:10 AM	#647
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	If Gohan can kill Cell, and Gill can kill Gohan, than all there is left (To my mind and to the argument you either ignored or missed) is that Tessa would eliminate Buu back into that egg shell barrier thing using her magic, and Gill would be able to fight Cell without disruption from Buu. Disagree? Agree? Either way, this path to victory is true. __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

11-21-2002, 07:15 AM	#648
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Disagree. Buu can only be re-trapped in the egg shell by Bibidi or Babidi. And who the hell is this Tessa you speak of, and what are her powers? And remember, ANYONE who is killed by the SF fighters can be brought back by Lord Enma. And if Gill is distracted by someone, and Cell sneaks up from behind, Cell can easily vacuum up Gill.

11-21-2002, 07:29 AM	#649
Roll Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 2,647 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Tessa is a spell user just like Bibidi and Babidi, but with some greater spells since she has been practicing her magic on Street Fighters. Because of her recent adventures, she now has the ability to change people into other forms regardless of what they want. I got's to go to school, so I'll post more soon... __________________ [img:sig_uid]http://www.boomspeed.com/roll/Hikaru-2.jpg[/img:sig_uid] Perhaps.. I've overstayed my welcome..

11-21-2002, 07:35 AM	#650
Nantuko Joe Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Right behind you... Posts: 1,479 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	[quoteost_uid0="Roll"]Because of her recent adventures, she now has the ability to change people into other forms regardless of what they want.[/quote] Other forms? How do you mean? And how can you say she has greater spells than Bibidi and Babidi just because he's been practicing them on Street Fighters? Babidi was thousands of years old when he died, and we never saw the extent of his sorcery. Bibidi was probably even more powerful, for he was the one who actually created Buu. Now if Bibidi was revived, he'd theoretically have the power to create a second Buu, and that would be a HUGE advantage for DBZ...