We should tweak some of the character moves - ---

[Nantuko Joe]

TMy, remember back in the day you put a limit on the number of super jumps we could do because ppl were abusing it? Well, there are two things I think you should either put a limit on, or simply make the attack a wee bit slower.

Cyclops in general: Too many ppl abuse his optic blasts. Especially the HP. They sit there and use the High Punch forever, and when you finally superjump out of the way, they trap you in the corner with an Optic Beam until you die. Also, they do the same thing with the crouching Optic Beam and the Optic Sweep. Too many people abuse these attacks, and it's gotten a whole lot worse than the cheap hadokens of the past. Even if you'd slow the moves down just a wee bit, they would be a LOT less abusive.

Sentinal: the same thing with him, people simply sit there and abuse his mouth beam. This wouldnt' be THAT bad, except when it hits you it pushes you back into the corner, and ppl can sit there and do that all day long. And if you have no more helpers left, you're as good as dead. Again, if you could tweak the attack so it slows down a bit, it would be a bit more fair.

Wolverine: with 1on1 or 1 on 2 tag, his Super attack (down, back, HP + HK) keeps going until the opponent is KOd. I don't know if that's the way its supposed to be or if its a glitch, but it's too insane to stay.

Ryu: Just so ppl don't think I'm simply complaining, I'm going to also ask you to tweak some of Ryu's moves that I sometimes abuse. While kneeling, Ryu's MP is just as fast as his LP, but it's a lot stronger. Also, while crouching and using the MK, Ryu doesn't get pushed back away from the opponent, and the user can do that for the entire match.

[pip99]

yeh......ryus low kick on my pc..i could keep diong that forever...but on most opponents there killer lag kills it..

[sk8erfox805]

wolverine has that kick 2 , and the high kick with ryu .. and the worst of all of them "(CICLOPS)

[Kayura]

or you should just get cyclops out of the game and put in a new character. ???

[pip99]

u cant really chuck some 1 that would b piontless after tmypp spent ages diong him..

[SSJKarma]

first: i think nantuko is right, but... even in the real game you can be that way. except that with that much lag, this cheapness is much more effective !

second: kayuza, HE DO NOT REMOVE SOMETHING AFTER ITS IMPLEMENTED ! try and keep that in mind. he can tweak the chars but never will he remove the chars ! it's not like it took him a day to do cyclops, it took him 4 months !

third: i never really played those with cheapness like that. i have fought 1 on 25 opponent. that's pretty much why i think people generalize too much.

i agree with nantuko joe :buttrock:

[SuperSonicX]

I mostly agree with Joe on cyclops..he's way too cheap..

[QUIET_KILLER]

[quoteost_uid4="wrestlemania"]i agree with nantuko joe :buttrock: [/quoteost_uid4]
:withstupid:

[color=blueost_uid4]Except if you think about why tweak ryu.

Sure some of those moves seem cheap.

In this time of lag sent has the advantage.

As well as cyclop's and wolverine.

Not to mention chunli in some cases.

Now if you tweak ryu then any one who uses him.

Will die more than any other character.

Now why tweak him the lag.

Doesn't really help ryu in a lot of cases.

The sent makes him fly back.

Wolverine does seriuos damage with his special.

So by tweakings ryu hey why not throw of some balance.

Now cyclop's heh that's a different story.

Optic every thing nuff said on that one.

Chunli has more jumping power than ryu.

SO she can easily dodge his super's or any one else's.

Then she doe's more damage than ryu.

Now ryu was tweaked before now he is more easier to kill.

Now ryu is tweaked I don't want any one to even think about.

Asking for a tweak for akuma or ken.

Yes by tweaking ryu you affect there out come.

Also if any one need's to be tweaked.

Then it would be every one except ryu.

When a super is thrown at him.

He jump's trying to hyper if it connect's then he stay's in it.

When sent jump's around the time.

Of a super is thrown out of the way of that attack.

Chunli will get hit but bounces.

So she doesn't really take as much damage as ryu would.

Cyclop's and wolvy they go through the same thing as ryu.

When a super is thrown at them.

So I guess sent and chunli are special huh?

Now it is already a challenge to try.

As well as survive or win a fight with ryu.

Against those other character's.

Then turn around and tweak his chance of survival.

That is just not right

Also when you do those punches and kick's.

It does push you away I guess you have not noticed huh ???

Ryu is good the way he is.

His hadouken's get cancelled out by wolvy's slide attack.

The drill claw sometime's as well.

Then sent's mouth beam.

As well as mr optic every thing almost most of the time.

Then chunli can jump over hadouken's.

Also if you limit the number of hadouken.

How do you expect to beat onslaught in practice mode.

Or even try to beat Onslaught user's.

Every one could seem to probably be tweaked.

As for ryu since he was tweaked with jumplock.

He is the underdog can't hyper jump.

Super's when you want him too.

Whenever you try doing a.

Hyper jump now it creates a laggier game.

As well can't jump as high as most character's

Other than that I agree with what Nantuko Joe said :biggrin:[/colorost_uid4]

[mooo1]

if a person is always cheap they're rank will be -10,000
They will be soo embaraased that they will problaly get a new account and never be cheap again... :laughlong: THats waht i read in the yellow before the game starts: That if you kep being cheap your rank gets to -10,000