Helpers - The Unfair Advantage...

Selvin · 10-13-2001, 08:46 AM

Question. How many of you are in a close game that you will most likely win and BOOM. The opponent uses 5 Psylockes on you? Okay how about when somebody does a Berseker Barrage X on you and Psylocke to take away 3/4 from your health?? This really isn't fair, MAINLY WHEN I ALWAYS GET SENTINEL! Can someone please tell me why we have helpers. They don't help. The make an unfair advantage. Example: Leftyb vs. Nferno666. I would think Leftyb would win, but if Nferno666 has Psy;ocke and Leftyb has Sentinel. I give that match to Nferno. Leftyb could do how many supers. But a helper knocks him out of it If Nferno666 does a super it gets powered up. Ugh, please make the helpers be able to be hit. Because it isn't your skill that isn't deciding matches anymore. It is more like who has the better helper and can screw you out of a win.

BrainDed7726 · 10-13-2001, 08:52 AM

I'm with Selvin on this, I think the other player's helper should be susceptible to attacks from you.

nosoul4evr · 10-13-2001, 08:54 AM

*grins* sounds like some people need a refresher course on how to super jump and block j/k...hehe..yeah i have had it done to me...i'd rather them use up all their helpers in one round anyways...leaves 'em defenseless in rounds 2 and 3 ..use your helpers sparingly..only 2 or 3 a round..either to combo your opponent...or to break your opponents combo on you..
no offense but ya sound like newbies...i expected more from you guy's....hehe only joking guys dont get mad ok?

(Edited by nosoul4evr at 12:03 pm on Oct. 13, 2001)

Selvin · 10-13-2001, 08:55 AM

If I am doing a super, I CAN'T JUMP!

nosoul4evr · 10-13-2001, 09:20 AM

well thats my point...your in a super...a very strong move but has it's weakness's..the helpers are just that..a "super breaker" to stop the pain short.or a super combo to pour on a little more dammage and hopefuly leave your opponent realing for your next power move...i will admit that psylocke ,hondo,and the whirling ball of fuzz are the better of all the helpers,and can definately hurt ya bad when ya get slammed with all 5 in a round...the sentinal is terribly good at keepin' jumpers under control...im not too impressed with the ol' switcharoo dude..but he has saved me from several wolverine wall pinners...i have found pro's and conn 's about every helper and havent a complaint..sure getting blasted 5 times in a round sucks..but then again...how much skill does it take to hit "K","I" over and over...you'll get 'em next round if ya just use ya mellon for something other than a punchin' bag

(Edited by nosoul4evr at 12:29 pm on Oct. 13, 2001)

BrainDed7726 · 10-13-2001, 10:45 AM

Who's this Hondo Guy? And isn't Spiral a girl? It would be odd for a man to have breasts...

TarkanX · 10-13-2001, 12:41 PM

Happens to me to

example:

TarkanX vs. leftyfb

TarkanX has spiral, and lefty has psylocke

zaknefein · 10-15-2001, 09:44 AM

If we could pick helps I would definately never pick the teleporting helper. That is the worst helper of them all. As a wolverine player I need a helper that will interupt or stop Ryu's power blast or take those last few hp away. Heres what happens with the teleporting helper:

Ryu starts power blast, Im blocking and call my helper - Im now getting hit and I get teleported to the back of the other end of the screen but still in the blast path.

How did that help me?

My favorite helps are Blanka and the Blue Spiril Girl. They come immediately and do damage. Alot of the others you have to wait for them to run out and throw or shoot something. Plus with Blanka and the Spiril Girl, they start doing damage from one end of the screen all the way to the other.

The throwing helpers can miss if your oponent is behind them. That guy that bites stuff is very short range, but still better than the teleporting helper.

Zaknefein

Yawgatog · 10-15-2001, 01:24 PM

You CAN pick helpers. That feature was added in update 0.1u, if I recall correctly.

All you need to know are the codes...

Using Psylocke all the time rules, BTW.

nosoul4evr · 10-15-2001, 01:40 PM

...when do you enter that...at the choose character screen?
...#### some one needs to compile a rule book for this game....even knowing all the moves and tricks of the trade...superior skill will 9 times out of 10 win you the battle...granted lag is also a determining factor as well.(well ....at the moment.)

(Edited by nosoul4evr at 4:46 pm on Oct. 15, 2001)

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10-13-2001, 08:46 AM	#1
Selvin Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,349 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Question. How many of you are in a close game that you will most likely win and BOOM. The opponent uses 5 Psylockes on you? Okay how about when somebody does a Berseker Barrage X on you and Psylocke to take away 3/4 from your health?? This really isn't fair, MAINLY WHEN I ALWAYS GET SENTINEL! Can someone please tell me why we have helpers. They don't help. The make an unfair advantage. Example: Leftyb vs. Nferno666. I would think Leftyb would win, but if Nferno666 has Psy;ocke and Leftyb has Sentinel. I give that match to Nferno. Leftyb could do how many supers. But a helper knocks him out of it If Nferno666 does a super it gets powered up. Ugh, please make the helpers be able to be hit. Because it isn't your skill that isn't deciding matches anymore. It is more like who has the better helper and can screw you out of a win. __________________ http://free.7host02.com/astro75/signatureSelvin2.gif

10-13-2001, 08:55 AM	#4
Selvin Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 3,349 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	If I am doing a super, I CAN'T JUMP! __________________ http://free.7host02.com/astro75/signatureSelvin2.gif

10-13-2001, 08:52 AM	#2
BrainDed7726 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 749 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	I'm with Selvin on this, I think the other player's helper should be susceptible to attacks from you.

10-13-2001, 08:54 AM	#3
nosoul4evr Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,343 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	grins sounds like some people need a refresher course on how to super jump and block j/k...hehe..yeah i have had it done to me...i'd rather them use up all their helpers in one round anyways...leaves 'em defenseless in rounds 2 and 3 ..use your helpers sparingly..only 2 or 3 a round..either to combo your opponent...or to break your opponents combo on you.. no offense but ya sound like newbies...i expected more from you guy's....hehe only joking guys dont get mad ok? (Edited by nosoul4evr at 12:03 pm on Oct. 13, 2001)

10-13-2001, 09:20 AM	#5
nosoul4evr Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,343 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	well thats my point...your in a super...a very strong move but has it's weakness's..the helpers are just that..a "super breaker" to stop the pain short.or a super combo to pour on a little more dammage and hopefuly leave your opponent realing for your next power move...i will admit that psylocke ,hondo,and the whirling ball of fuzz are the better of all the helpers,and can definately hurt ya bad when ya get slammed with all 5 in a round...the sentinal is terribly good at keepin' jumpers under control...im not too impressed with the ol' switcharoo dude..but he has saved me from several wolverine wall pinners...i have found pro's and conn 's about every helper and havent a complaint..sure getting blasted 5 times in a round sucks..but then again...how much skill does it take to hit "K","I" over and over...you'll get 'em next round if ya just use ya mellon for something other than a punchin' bag (Edited by nosoul4evr at 12:29 pm on Oct. 13, 2001)

10-13-2001, 10:45 AM	#6
BrainDed7726 Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 749 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Who's this Hondo Guy? And isn't Spiral a girl? It would be odd for a man to have breasts...

10-13-2001, 12:41 PM	#7
TarkanX Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota Posts: 3,043 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	Happens to me to example: TarkanX vs. leftyfb TarkanX has spiral, and lefty has psylocke

10-15-2001, 09:44 AM	#8
zaknefein Member New Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 59 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	If we could pick helps I would definately never pick the teleporting helper. That is the worst helper of them all. As a wolverine player I need a helper that will interupt or stop Ryu's power blast or take those last few hp away. Heres what happens with the teleporting helper: Ryu starts power blast, Im blocking and call my helper - Im now getting hit and I get teleported to the back of the other end of the screen but still in the blast path. How did that help me? My favorite helps are Blanka and the Blue Spiril Girl. They come immediately and do damage. Alot of the others you have to wait for them to run out and throw or shoot something. Plus with Blanka and the Spiril Girl, they start doing damage from one end of the screen all the way to the other. The throwing helpers can miss if your oponent is behind them. That guy that bites stuff is very short range, but still better than the teleporting helper. Zaknefein

10-15-2001, 01:24 PM	#9
Yawgatog Junior Member New Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 11 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	You CAN pick helpers. That feature was added in update 0.1u, if I recall correctly. All you need to know are the codes... Using Psylocke all the time rules, BTW.

10-15-2001, 01:40 PM	#10
nosoul4evr Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,343 Post Thanks / Like Thanks (Given): 0 Thanks (Received): 0 Likes (Given): 0 Likes (Received): 0 Dislikes (Given): 0 Dislikes (Received): 0 Points: 0 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s)	...when do you enter that...at the choose character screen? ...#### some one needs to compile a rule book for this game....even knowing all the moves and tricks of the trade...superior skill will 9 times out of 10 win you the battle...granted lag is also a determining factor as well.(well ....at the moment.) (Edited by nosoul4evr at 4:46 pm on Oct. 15, 2001)